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I think at this point it’s practically a rule of politics that whenever something Trump says loses him some voters, the very same statement gains him some other voters. Will that be true in this latest incident as well? I’m having trouble imagining anyone who wasn’t previously supporting Trump who would start supporting him after his statement about punishing women who have had abortions.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Actually, the first thing I told that poster was that I am pro-choice. That’s pretty upfront.

I sincerely don’t know what to call people who do not agree with choice concerning this subject. I can’t call y’all pro-life and look myself in the mirror. Every person I have ever met on both sides of this issue is pro-life.

Why does it bother you so that I call it pro-choice and anti-choice? That’s how I see the issue. Just like those on the opposite side call it pro-abortion and pro-life because that’s how they see the issue. None of that bothers me. It’s silly semantics that distracts us, imho.

It’s a big wide world with room for all sorts of beliefs. Charity is our friend.
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Peter_J said:
Who knows, maybe it’s our fault, since we didn’t return the compliment by calling LS “anti-life”.
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No it’s not your fault. It just wouldn’t make any sense since Little Sheep has already said he or she has never met anyone on either side who is not pro life.
 
Michael_Mayo said:
Shouldn’t each case be judged on its own merit? Each sentence also?
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Yes, I’ve said before if abortion were illegal, a fourteen-tear-old girl who is forced by her parents to have an abortion shouldn’t receive the same punishment as a thirty-year-old woman who simply would find a child an inconvenience.

I would imagine we were all inconveniences to those who raised us at some point.
 
Seamus_L said:
I don’t think Donald Trump is looking bad tonight, but it’s rather those Pro-Life organizations who think they speak for everyone in the Pro-Life community that are looking hypocritical.
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I actually feel a little sorry for Trump tonight, and I have to ask myself why I feel bad for a billionaire who can have any material thing he wants. He’s attempting to do “damage control” for his statement on abortion, and really, he shouldn’t have to do damage control for that statement.
 
My take: Trump’s statement obviously needed to be responded to, e.g.
Students for Life
‏@Students4LifeHQ
Our statement on Trump and abortion: “No one in the pro-life movement wants to punish women who have abortions.
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but I think the right-wing should have stuck with disavowing Trump’s statement – whereas in fact some of them used it as an opportunity to get out their own message of wanting to punish abortionists. For example, this other tweet I found:
Right to Life
‏@nrlc
National Right to Life: Punish Abortionists, Not Women
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I’m not looking to sow even more division between moderate Republicans and the right-wing, but I decided I couldn’t stay silent.
 
In addition to the women, should whoever provides the funds/support for abortion be punished as well for eg. husband, boyfriend, parents who encourage someone to have an abortion?
 
QuestLove said:
In addition to the women, should whoever provides the funds/support for abortion be punished as well for eg. husband, boyfriend, parents who encourage someone to have an abortion?
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According to Catholic moral teaching, they are as guilty as the woman who makes the decision. On the other hand, if someone is truly coerced, like a young girl might be, she incurs very little culpability. But abortion isn’t going anywhere soon, so I’m not going to engage in a long “what if” discussion.
 
chero23 said:
Just watched the Cruz said that he won’t support trump if he’s the nominee if. I hope he keeps his word.
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I never accepted Cruz’s on his word.

He’s been the dirtiest candidate of the GOP.

Remember in Iowa, his sending out robo calls to voters telling them that Carlson was dropping out ?

Remember his sending out what looked like government forms, showing the neighbors of people who were supporting Cruz, but it was a lie ?

Trumps is a ego maniac, but Cruz is the epitome of a con artist

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
I never accepted Cruz’s on his word.

He’s been the dirtiest candidate of the GOP.

Remember in Iowa, his sending out robo calls to voters telling them that Carlson was dropping out ?

Remember his sending out what looked like government forms, showing the neighbors of people who were supporting Cruz, but it was a lie ?

Trumps is a ego maniac, but Cruz is the epitome of a con artist

Jim
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I hate to admit it, but I had forgotten that. Thank you for reminding us.
 
Lily_Bernans said:
I actually feel a little sorry for Trump tonight, and I have to ask myself why I feel bad for a billionaire who can have any material thing he wants. He’s attempting to do “damage control” for his statement on abortion, and really, he shouldn’t have to do damage control for that statement.
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Yes, he should. According to Trump, women who procure abortions should be punished but the fathers of their babies shouldn’t be, even if they are willing to have their babies aborted. If the fathers are complicit in murder and the women are to be punished, the fathers should be, too.

Or perhaps he should apologize for thinking up his stance on the issue on the spot. That’s pretty insulting, as well.
 
Trumps recent statements on abortion only show how shallow he is in thinking out issues which don’t involve making money.

He’s clever at making money, but he lacks wisdom on many other issues.

He is not presidential, but unfortunately. the alternatives to him aren’t much better.

I’ll never vote for Hillary, but I’ll also never vote for Cruz.

What a sad state our election is in this time.

Jim
 
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