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We all have to live in the present; we are constrained by time. But a president, more than anyone, has to look to the future and not blow back and forth like a willow in the wind.
The past is but a memory
And tomorrow but a dream
But today ,well lived
Makes the past a memory of happiness
And tomorrow of vision of joy

I know I have paraphrased this Now back to our regular scheduled programming…
 
Thank you for the information, Bob. I saw Monica Lewinsky recently, but I am too young to know about the others. I read about Gennifer (not a misspelling) Flowers in a book. She was during his governor days, I think. Both Gennifer and Monica had only good things to say about Bill. I know he’s more likable than Hillary; I don’t think any Hillary supporter will deny that. She doesn’t have natural charisma.

Edit: I guess all charisma is natural by nature, right?
Juanita Broderick says he raped her Kathleen Wiley says he sexually harassed or the day after her husband died . In the end he got impeached and disbarred Hillary stuck with her man and to hell with the women
 
Juanita Broderick says he raped her Kathleen Wiley says he sexually harassed or the day after her husband died . In the end he got impeached and disbarred Hillary stuck with her man and to hell with the women
Is there evidence that Hillary believed these women’s accounts?
 
Both Gennifer and Monica had only good things to say about Bill.
This is not true at all.
" Gennifer Flowers, who carried on a 12-year affair with the former president, said during a radio interview that she fears for her life because of what she knows about the Clintons and that she has secret information in a safety deposit box, which she says is the only thing keeping her alive. She also called into question Hillary’s sexual orientation…"
downtrend.com/71superb/clintons-ex-mistress-gennifer-flowers-says-bill-wants-her-dead-and-hillary-might-be-a-lesbian
 
This is not true at all.
" Gennifer Flowers, who carried on a 12-year affair with the former president, said during a radio interview that she fears for her life because of what she knows about the Clintons and that she has secret information in a safety deposit box, which she says is the only thing keeping her alive. She also called into question Hillary’s sexual orientation…"
downtrend.com/71superb/clintons-ex-mistress-gennifer-flowers-says-bill-wants-her-dead-and-hillary-might-be-a-lesbian
And the same can be said for Trump, or the same cannot be said for Trump.

Just trying to connect our posts to Trump on this thread.
 
And the same can be said for Trump, or the same cannot be said for Trump.

Just trying to connect our posts to Trump on this thread.
It was another poster who falsely claimed that Gennifer Flowers “had only good things to say about Bill.”
 
Not all the media do. I heard, I think Wolf Blitzer, say to Trump, “You like to criticize others, but you can’t take a punch.” That seems to be true, some of the time. As in most things, Trump is inconsistent.
Yes, I think some have begun to question whether he’s really “Teflon”.
 
The great majority of women who have abortions aren’t victimized in any way. And lack of culpability on the woman’s part isn’t the reason they weren’t prosecuted prior to Roe v Wade.
Lily, I agree that the vast majority aren’t the victims or rape, incest, life threatening or severe psychological disfunction. I will continue to say the majority of women getting abortions do so because they feel intensely trapped and pressured. No support system and severe economic privation coupled with extreme relationship dysfunction and a system that has a vested interest in fighting truly informed consent…yeah, there are women getting screwed by a culture that lies to them and devalues them at every turn.

I really don’t understand the lack of outrage and credulity among Democrats who identify as Catholic. Where is the Democratic true belief in victims of poverty? Isn’t that how Catholics justify voting pro-choice? And especially when those “support systems” and “safety nets” that could not or would not help raise a child in fact encourage abortion?

See:

guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf
And
nbcnews.com/id/22689931/ns/health-womens_health/t/whos-getting-abortions-not-who-youd-think/
 
Lily, I agree that the vast majority aren’t the victims or rape, incest, life threatening or severe psychological disfunction. I will continue to say the majority of women getting abortions do so because they feel intensely trapped and pressured. No support system and severe economic privation coupled with extreme relationship dysfunction and a system that has a vested interest in fighting truly informed consent…yeah, there are women getting screwed by a culture that lies to them and devalues them at every turn.

I really don’t understand the lack of outrage and credulity among Democrats who identify as Catholic. Where is the Democratic true belief in victims of poverty? Isn’t that how Catholics justify voting pro-choice? And especially when those “support systems” and “safety nets” that could not or would not help raise a child in fact encourage abortion?

See:

guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf
And
nbcnews.com/id/22689931/ns/health-womens_health/t/whos-getting-abortions-not-who-youd-think/
There are men who have lost their jobs to less qualified applicants because of affirmative action or some other reason. Because of unemployment and other factors, they may feel intensely trapped and pressured and experience severe economic privation coupled with extreme relationship dysfunction. Suppose now because of these various traumas they were to murder their wives. Should they be excused and set free? If not, then why should not the same apply to a mother who murders her unborn child?
 
There are men who have lost their jobs to less qualified applicants because of affirmative action or some other reason. Because of unemployment and other factors, they may feel intensely trapped and pressured and experience severe economic privation coupled with extreme relationship dysfunction. Suppose now because of these various traumas they were to murder their wives. Should they be excused and set free? If not, then why should not the same apply to a mother who murders her unborn child?
Have you considered the position of the prolife movement? (Or does that not matter to you? Honestly, I’m really surprised to discover how out of touch this forum is with the prolife movement.)
 
It was another poster who falsely claimed that Gennifer Flowers “had only good things to say about Bill.”
That was me, and after I posted, I realized what she said wasn’t all good. Sorry for the mistake. Still, I don’t see how Hillary enabled him. She stayed with him, she preserved her marriage, but isn’t that what we’re taught to do?
 
That was me, and after I posted, I realized what she said wasn’t all good. Sorry for the mistake. Still, I don’t see how Hillary enabled him. She stayed with him, she preserved her marriage, but isn’t that what we’re taught to do?
She tried to destroy these women She stuck around because that was her only path to power
 
There are men who have lost their jobs to less qualified applicants because of affirmative action or some other reason. Because of unemployment and other factors, they may feel intensely trapped and pressured and experience severe economic privation coupled with extreme relationship dysfunction. Suppose now because of these various traumas they were to murder their wives. Should they be excused and set free? If not, then why should not the same apply to a mother who murders her unborn child?
Off the top of my head, I’ll start with the fact that homocide of a woman isn’t legal just because she is a wife. The same isn’t true of abortion; serious time and money has been spent in the enculturation of abortion acceptance. Now we must deal with the fact that it has WORKED. Further devaluation of women by wholesale vilification of them is not the answer.

From there, I guess we’ll go to the fact that there is leeway in sentancing other killings; they aren’t all equal. First degree murder is different from a manslaghter charge, or negligent homicide. There is room for consideration of mitigating and aggravating circumstances which jurors and judges are given, so let’s not pretend that doesn’t happen.
 
I know he’s more likable than Hillary; I don’t think any Hillary supporter will deny that. She doesn’t have natural charisma.

Edit: I guess all charisma is natural by nature, right?
If Bill Clinton could run for president again, I think he’d easily get elected.
 
So you hope. If you have watched any of his rallies either yesterday or today, though, you will be sorely disappointed. Trump is doing very well.
 
So you hope. If you have watched any of his rallies either yesterday or today, though, you will be sorely disappointed. Trump is doing very well.
I think Trump’s going to lose to Cruz in Wisconsin. Recent polls have Cruz ahead there.
 
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