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Tablefor9 said:
Again, this. For many of us, Hillary is the ONLY thing that would EVER make us consider Trump. I dare say there are plenty who will vote Cruz, even if they have to hold their nose and take a Phenergan when doing so.
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After months of undermining Cruz in every way they could the republican establishment is desperately trying to get him the nomination.
 
Thorolfr said:
During the last election, Republicans were sure that Romney was going to beat Obama, too, but it didn’t happen. Unless the Republican party finds a way to be more appealing to Latinos, African Americans, other minorities, and women, etc. they will probably continue to lose to Democrats.
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Unfortunately for them, the Republican Party is doing exactly the opposite and becoming LESS appealing to all these groups while, in some cases, not even understanding why.
 
meltzerboy said:
Unfortunately for them, the Republican Party is doing exactly the opposite and becoming LESS appealing to all these groups while, in some cases, not even knowing why.
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Republicans believe policies should benefit all Americans equally and not target people by race, gender or ethnicity.
 
Wow, looks like we’ve found a common ground republican identity. Sweet! Highlight of my day.
 
Abortion is not about women’s rights. It’s about men’s right to abandon responsibility. Never forget that.
 
estesbob said:
Republicans believe policies should benefit all Americans equally and not target people by race, gender or ethnicity.
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On the surface, that sounds just and fair; however, it is also one of the problems with the G.O.P. and the perception people have that the Party is oblivious to past, as well as present, discrimination of members of certain groups. These people are not being treated equally and require special attention to the problems created, in part, by discrimination. The G.O.P. refuses to see it this way and believes instead in “rugged individualism,” small government, and pulling oneself up by one’s own bootstraps. Taken to the extreme, such attitudes alienate many voters.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Soooo Catholics aren’t the only ones entitled to liberty. 🤷

If I were a female Christian belonging to the United Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ, PCUSA, TEC, ELCA and depending on which one, my faith believed and recognized that I should either have the legal right to be able to choose an abortion to end my pregnancy or that I should have the right in cases of rape or incest, to protect my own health, or in the case of fetal abnormalities, or that I should have the right until viability while the fetus was dependent upon my body, then if abortion was illegal, it would be an infringement upon my rights.

The fact is in a pluralistic society such as ours, it’s not always an easy task to satisfy all.

But as it stands now, religious liberty for women of childbearing age with regard to abortion isn’t being infringed upon. Catholics are still very free to choose not to abort what they believe is a human person from the moment of conception. And those who believe otherwise still have their liberty to choose an abortion which for them may be a very personal decision between themselves, their family, their doctor, and not the least between God and their own spiritual advisor, pastor, rabbi, or other clergy.
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So first it was saying “murder” as many times as you could hoping to wear us down, and now you’re claiming that restrictions on abortion are a violation of religious liberty? I’m starting to wonder why I ever bothered responding to your posts.
 
Peter_J said:
So first it was saying “murder” as many times as you could hoping to wear us down, and now you’re claiming that restrictions on abortion are a violation of religious liberty? I’m starting to wonder why I ever bothered responding to your posts.
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Bringing out the anti-choice moniker was a clear sign of the authenticity of any ensuing arguments.
 
mary_bobo said:
It’s this kind of thinking that gave us Obama. I am not supporting Trump, as you know, nor Cruz for that matter, but looking at the choices on the other side, I will vote for whoever the. GOP candidate is. I care too much for the Constitution not to.
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I think the last 9 or 10 months have shown that Republicans are much too quick to answer hypothetical questions.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Hope you heard all the other stuff he said too.
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I guess you don’t recall Joseph Heller’s Catch 22 very well – I mean the part where Yossarian learned that there was another official report circulating besides the one that said he had been stabbed by an assassin.

As Major Danby said, “they can prepare as many official reports as they want and choose whichever ones they need on any given occasion.”
 
Thorolfr said:
I don’t think Cruz will be a much better candidate for the Republican party than what Trump is. It doesn’t make much sense, does it, for the party to pick one of its least likable members to lead it? According to the Washington Post, “Cruz is one of the least popular members – if not the least popular member – of the Senate among both Democrats and Republicans.” He’s also far too conservative to appeal to most moderate Republicans and independent voters, groups whose support will be needed to win the election.
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I have always kind of liked Cruz (emphasis on kind of). Even back in the shutting down government days. I like people who speak their mind and don’t care what others think - and, at the same time, walk the walk. Cruz is what he says he is; like him or hate him, you know where he stands on the issues. I would say the same thing for Bernie (or Kasich), for that matter. I think Clinton and Trump both create sort of false images, what they project is not necessarily what you will actually get.

For this reason I feel surprisingly comfortable about Cruz. I am with him on enough, not all, issues, and he won’t waver. No violation of conscience in supporting him. I also think this kind of candidate could play well against Hillary and be quite refreshing in today’s political climate. (I am also pretty confident that Cruz can withstand and win a fight… up to or in the White House) Let’s face it, Obama is the status quo, backed by corporate media and business.

Time for a change.
 
meltzerboy said:
On the surface, that sounds just and fair; however, it is also one of the problems with the G.O.P. and the perception people have that the Party is oblivious to past, as well as present, discrimination of members of certain groups. These people are not being treated equally and require special attention to the problems created, in part, by discrimination. The G.O.P. refuses to see it this way and believes instead in “rugged individualism,” small government, and pulling oneself up by one’s own bootstraps. Taken to the extreme, such attitudes alienate many voters.
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Basically the democrats have stayed in power by dividing us as much as possible. They target groups, tell them they are victims and institute solutions that do great harm to them. But like crack addicts they get addicted to democrat Largess and accept the endemic poverty, substandard schools and broken families that always occur when a groups is “helped” by the Democrats-African Americans being the best example.
 
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