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Joking about assassinating someone or shooting someone in the street is not funny, not presidential, and truly reprehensible doesn’t matter whether a liberal or conservative says it. Especially for someone who claims to want to be the
Leader of the country. Dan Rather said it best when he mentioned how those who support Trump and refuse to criticize him at all will face harsh judgement in history.
Dan Rather???

Please.

Dan Rather used counterfeit documents to attempt to discredit George W. Bush’s service in the Air National Guard.
 
Hillary when talking about obama in the 2012 race actually did hope he would be assassinated. She actually used the exact word.

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If someone already posted this I apologize.
She did not “hope” that Obama would be assassinated. She never used the word “hope” or an equivalent. What she said was that she was staying in the race even though he was leading because some candidates in the past, like RFK, had been assassinated in June. And she was rightly criticized for it. It was insensitive and showed an unseemly ambition.

And even if it was equivalent to what Trump said, which it isn’t, because Hillary Clinton said something similar 8 years ago makes it ok?
 
The second amendment people are not people who do assassinations. These are people who would rise up against tyranny and a government who would take away their fundamental rights. Thats what trump was talking about, people who wouldn’t take it lying down if the government comes knocking on their door to take away their guns.
You just described second amendment types as those who will use their weapons to kill law enforcement officers representing the government. So they wouldn’t kill Hillary but they’d kill cops. Fabulous.
If hillary was assassinated while president the Vice President takes over, so an assasination doesn’t prevent the same kind of justices from being nominated at all. But if the second amendment is indeed shut down by the Supreme Court, the only defense against such a tyrannical government invasion of rights might be up to an uprising by people who believe in the second amendment. This is what trump meant.
So he’s recommending a violent uprising. Fabulous. Just curious: how do you define treason?
 
You just described second amendment types as those who will use their weapons to kill law enforcement officers representing the government. So they wouldn’t kill Hillary but they’d kill cops. Fabulous.

So he’s recommending a violent uprising. Fabulous. Just curious: how do you define treason?
Look up second amendment. The purpose of the amendment is precisely so that the government cannot take away citizens’ rights and rule tyrannically.

If and when the second amendment is abolished in this country, there probably will be an uprising.
 
She did not “hope” that Obama would be assassinated. She never used the word “hope” or an equivalent. What she said was that she was staying in the race even though he was leading because some candidates in the past, like RFK, had been assassinated in June. And she was rightly criticized for it. It was insensitive and showed an unseemly ambition.

And even if it was equivalent to what Trump said, which it isn’t, because Hillary Clinton said something similar 8 years ago makes it ok?
I agree; it was an unfortunate occurrence then, with Hillary, as now, with Trump. I also recall Hillary saying in 2008 that Obama couldn’t win in the general election, implying because he was black. Even if she thought it was true, that was another poor choice of words that should not have been said.
 
Look up second amendment. The purpose of the amendment is precisely so that the government cannot take away citizens’ rights and rule tyrannically.
Respectfully, perhaps it’s *you *who should read up on the subject. Justice Scalia was the most pro-second amendment justice on SCOTUS and he clarified the following in the majority opinion for the Supreme Court in District of Columbia et al. v. Heller:
The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
If and when the second amendment is abolished in this country, there probably will be an uprising.
SCOTUS isn’t going to repeal the second amendment. But I guess it’s good to know who among my neighbors would be murdering police officers in the streets if it ever did…
 
Respectfully, perhaps it’s *you *who should read up on the subject. Justice Scalia was the most pro-second amendment justice on SCOTUS and he clarified the following in the majority opinion for the Supreme Court in District of Columbia et al. v. Heller:

SCOTUS isn’t going to repeal the second amendment. But I guess it’s good to know who among my neighbors would be murdering police officers in the streets if it ever did…
You wish then, that the revolutionary war never did happen? That’s how america won its independence from the unjust rule of England. The ultimate purpose of the second amendment is provision against a tyrannical government. Personal self defense is, of course another part of its stipulation.

Please also notice nobody ever said anything about murdering policemen but you. A righteous uprising could entail peaceful protests against the government taking away fundamental rights. When the government force use military powers against citizens in such protests, citiznrs then would be well justified to defend their positions. Again the second amendment is about defense of God given rights. It’s always a reaction not an initiation of violence for its own sake.

I say it again. Nobody said anything about murdering anybody except your side.
 
The ultimate purpose of the second amendment is provision against a tyrannical government.
No, it absolutely is not. When Justice Scalia (again, a major proponent of the second amendment) said its purpose is to guarantee the ability to use guns for “traditionally lawful purposes,” he was explicitly stating that the second amendment is NOT a “provision against a tyrannical government.”
Please also notice nobody ever said anything about murdering policemen but you.
This, too, is absolutely incorrect. When you write, “Thats what trump was talking about, people who wouldn’t take it lying down if the government comes knocking on their door to take away their guns,” do recognize that police officers are those who would hypothetically come “knocking on their door” and would apparently meet with a homeowner’s firearms.
A righteous uprising could entail peaceful protests against the government taking away fundamental rights.
Then no weapons would be necessary.
When the government force use military powers against citizens in such protests, citiznrs then would be well justified to defend their positions.
Again, you’re advocating for the deaths of police officers here.
Again the second amendment is about defense of God given rights.
God is not mentioned in the Constitution. Gun ownership is not a “God given right.”
 
The second amendment people are not people who do assassinations. These are people who would rise up against tyranny and a government who would take away their fundamental rights. Thats what trump was talking about, people who wouldn’t take it lying down if the government comes knocking on their door to take away their guns.

If hillary was assassinated while president the Vice President takes over, so an assasination doesn’t prevent the same kind of justices from being nominated at all. But if the second amendment is indeed shut down by the Supreme Court, the only defense against such a tyrannical government invasion of rights might be up to an uprising by people who believe in the second amendment. This is what trump meant.
Oh Gee! That makes everything all right. He wasn’t trying to suggest someone could assassinate Clinton, he was trying to start a revolution. Got it.🤷
 
Oh Gee! That makes everything all right. He wasn’t trying to suggest someone could assassinate Clinton, he was trying to start a revolution. Got it.🤷
you know very well what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to win the election. His argument is if hillary wins and appoint judges to legislate from the bench against the second amendment, it’ll be too late and too bad a situation to correct.
 
Serious question - if Trump is elected, who is going to serve in his administration? The President has to fill something like 3,000 appointed positions, many of them in national security, intelligence, and homeland security. Seems that most of the people who would ordinarily do those jobs in a GOP administration will not be willing to work for Trump. Someone has to do these jobs. Will qualified people step up anyway (whether for careerism, or patriotism)? Will Trump appoint people without national level experience? I think this could be a real issue.
I think you may find out, those folks who like to say they would never work for a trump whitehouse, I have a feeling if they were offered the job, most of them would probably jump on it in a heartbeat, that kind of job is a once in a lifetime opportunity and looks very good on a resume in the future, not to mention can usually lead to cushy jobs for the rest of their lives.
 
you know very well what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to win the election. His argument is if hillary wins and appoint judges to legislate from the bench against the second amendment, it’ll be too late and too bad a situation to correct.
I have no doubt that he’s trying to win the election but a lot of times I’m not at all certain what he’s trying to say since he seems to be a master of innuendo and vaguely suggestive statements. I have no idea if he’s just sloppy and inarticulate with his words (which isn’t something we need in a president, either) or if he’s sending an oblique or coded message to some of his supporters (i.e. “dog whistle politics”) that he can later deny was his intended message.
 
I think you may find out, those folks who like to say they would never work for a trump whitehouse, I have a feeling if they were offered the job, most of them would probably jump on it in a heartbeat, that kind of job is a once in a lifetime opportunity and looks very good on a resume in the future, not to mention can usually lead to cushy jobs for the rest of their lives.
Right, maybe make a TV show out of it. Oh wait…
 
I have no doubt that he’s trying to win the election but a lot of times I’m not at all certain what he’s trying to say since he seems to be a master of innuendo and vaguely suggestive statements. I have no idea if he’s just sloppy and inarticulate with his words (which isn’t something we need in a president, either) or if he’s sending an oblique or coded message to some of his supporters (i.e. “dog whistle politics”) that he can later deny was his intended message.
It’s difficult to figure out his intended message because he keeps changing his tone and seemingly talks from both sides of his mouth. Not to mention mixing his hand gestures which become so irritating after a while. That said, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt on this one unless he doubles-down next week or next month. We haven’t heard the last on this topic for sure.
 
I think you may find out, those folks who like to say they would never work for a trump whitehouse, I have a feeling if they were offered the job, most of them would probably jump on it in a heartbeat, that kind of job is a once in a lifetime opportunity and looks very good on a resume in the future, not to mention can usually lead to cushy jobs for the rest of their lives.
I think that is true for some, and not others.

I actually ran this question past two friends of mine who are very involved in GOP politics. Both opined that Trump would be able to find people to fill out the ranks, but that he may have to take less experienced or qualified people, especially at the second and third tier jobs. Interestingly, both opined that working in a Trump administration may be a career negative, depending on how he is judged in the future. FYI, one of them is likely voting Trump, the other voting 3d party.
 
I wonder, if Trump concludes he cannot win, will he drop out in order to avoid the loser label that he so harshly labeled Romney and McCain with?

He could simply claim he feels the process is not fair.
 
So how could Trump ask Putin to hack into a server which did not exist anymore?
And Putin was supposed to do it for the rewards from the press…But the press did not ask Putin anything like that. …
Thats a whushiwashy acusation…Trump statement is such a nonsense that clearly it is sarcastic.

Then they acuse Trump of what he said while turning a blind eye at Clinton doings?
How about the IT guy working for DNC, Seth Rich, who died in very dubious circumstances,t hey turn the other eye blind?

And how comes that nobody from the democrats doesnt stand against Clintons?

It is globalists against Trump, and I dont know how much is going Trump to stand against them after elections.
 
It’s difficult to figure out his intended message because he keeps changing his tone and seemingly talks from both sides of his mouth. Not to mention mixing his hand gestures which become so irritating after a while. That said, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt on this one unless he doubles-down next week or next month. We haven’t heard the last on this topic for sure.
Trump also changes his voice inflections. So, often he mocks Hillary or the news media or other politicians by putting words in their mouth … he speaks with a partially closed mouth and faces one way or another imitating the way they read from the teleprompter. But unless you actually see what he is doing, you don’t get that from reading what some reporter wrote.

Trump complains that reading a boring speech is boring for the audience. And boring for him. So you have to pay attention to what he is actually saying. And you can get that by viewing his actual talk.

So, he did that with the mother and the crying baby. And with hecklers. And with supporters who yell out … he will depart from his planned text to make the point.

He also has his famous statistics, which he pulls out of his jacket pocket and waves to the audience.

But unless you see what he is actually doing and what he is saying and how he is saying it, you will miss the essentials.

When the weather is very hot and they are outside, he will often ask about how the audience feels with the heat. On one occasion someone passed out, and Trump called for EMT’s to respond and he did not resume talking until the person was back ok. He kept asking about how the person was doing.
 
you know very well what he’s trying to do. He’s trying to win the election. His argument is if hillary wins and appoint judges to legislate from the bench against the second amendment, it’ll be too late and too bad a situation to correct.
Except that his whole premise is wrong, further evidence of his basic ignorance of how government works.

SCOTUS appointees must be approved by the Senate. It’s one of the checks and balances put in place by the founding fathers. Ted Cruz, who serves on the Senate Judiciary Committee, has already stated that no activist judges will be approved.
 
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