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Monte_RCMS
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What they say they will do and what they actually do are two different things.
A lot of Supreme Court judges turned out to be much more left wing activist than originally thought.
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A lot of Supreme Court judges turned out to be much more left wing activist than originally thought.
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Monte_RCMS
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They are big government bureaucrats.
[Yes, some are retired.]
They believe in big government.
They do not want to see small(er) government.
Trump suggests he will downsize the government.
And downsizing threatens bureaucrats with loss of potential job slots.
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Monte_RCMS
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Trump has pointed out more than ten areas in which the Federal government has FAILED ABSOLUTELY.You are right of course.
It boggles my mind how some posters here, and many Trump die-hards elsewhere, simply cannot grasp the dangers of a Trump presidency, as it is also well outlined in that letter. I hope that in the end it does not matter because Trump will lose – and like many, including a good number of Republicans, would prefer, he should lose badly, as a lesson to everyone.
There is absolutely no indication that any of the 16 alternates on the Republican side would improve things. Just more of the same.
People keep saying “the dangers of a Trump presidency”, but have no details.
Meanwhile, Trump just goes back to the basics.
The porous southern border is a disaster. The tax structure is a disaster. Education at the Federal level is a disaster. Infrastructure, even after Obama’s special tax in his first year, is a disaster. Foreign policy is a disaster. Military procurements and training and rules of engagement is a disaster. One disaster after another. And none of the security experts will discuss it.
Back to the basics: [And you can add to the list.] *
- Supreme Court Justices … left wing appointees would permanently tilt the United States to the left.
- Southern Border is porous … right now there is no one stopping the flood of undocumented people AND HEROIN entering the United States.
- The U. S. tax structure is the worst in the developed world.
- Veterans are getting terrible treatment from the Veterans Administration.
- U.S. Foreign Policy is a disaster. [Most recent example: $400 MILLION in CASH flown to Iran under conditions of secrecy. If it was legitimate, they would do an electronic transfer. And that’s just the latest.]
- Radical Islamic Terrorism is uncontested.
- Second Amendment. Gun control only controls law abiding citizens. Inner city crime and gang crime and black-on-black crime is epidemic.
- The economy. Record numbers of people on food stamps. People forced into part-time work owing to restrictions by government controlled medical legislation. Make participation in government controlled medical to be optional: if you can find a better and/or cheaper plan then take it.
- Restrictions on religion. [Example: Why should the Little Sisters of the Poor be forced to purchase contraception?] [Example: Why should someone who posted dissection of aborted babies be prosecuted?]
- Education: The United States ranks around 27th in math. WHY???
- U.S. Military is not being kept up to date. Navy is behind in technology and numbers and readiness. Aircraft are kept going using parts from the boneyard instead of buying new stuff. Troops are not training enough. Focus on social changes.*
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zz912
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Perhaps you should research Mr. King. Seems some in the BLM movement are asking where the money donated for the group disappeared to while under his control…
This is vile slander and honestly shouldn’t be allowed. It’s a grave lie put out by the DNC to attack a political opponent that had no basis in fact. Gifford’s shooter was a paranoid schizophrenic who believed all politicians had a secret conspiracy to brainwash people. He was obsessed with Giffords because she was his congresswoman and he had met her on a campaign stop. It’s doubtful that Loughner had ever seen the campaign flyer produced by Palin’s campaign.
Please do not continue repeating such slanderous lies. It’s unbecoming of Christians.
As noted above, NO, the map didn’t influence the Loughner. He hated all politicians and became obsessed over Giffords because he had met her at a campaign stop and thought all politicians were trying to manipulate and control people. It’s slander to continue to repeat this lie.
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Jeanne_S
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Monte_RCMS
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The original post was a British article, which did not mention the names of all 50 people who signed that open letter.
One of the people who did sign the letter was Michael Hayden.
I looked up his bio.
He was in the Air Force, but was not a pilot. After he got commissioned in the Air Force, he went back to college. I asked a friend about him. My friend said that Hayden was a “briefer”. He briefed high ranking officials.
My friends who were in the trenches did not gain a lot of rank. And if they survived and did not get killed in action, then they died young from stress.
So, it all reinforced my original thesis that the signers were bureaucrats who thrived in big government … moving from desk to desk.
One of the people who did sign the letter was Michael Hayden.
I looked up his bio.
He was in the Air Force, but was not a pilot. After he got commissioned in the Air Force, he went back to college. I asked a friend about him. My friend said that Hayden was a “briefer”. He briefed high ranking officials.
My friends who were in the trenches did not gain a lot of rank. And if they survived and did not get killed in action, then they died young from stress.
So, it all reinforced my original thesis that the signers were bureaucrats who thrived in big government … moving from desk to desk.
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J_Peterson
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No need to research. It’s already been resolved (back in December).
A complete accounting of every dollar raised by Shaun King throughout the Black Lives Matter Movement
It’s not nice to spread false information, even if you don’t like a person.
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Book_Worm
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We’ll never know if Palin’s ill-conceived exhortation influenced the shooter or not. The point is that Trump’s remark was NOT funny, as people on this thread have claimed, and that it’s either a serious lapse in judgment to joke like this, especially on the part of someone who aspires to hold such a position, or a dog-whistle to those who feel gun violence is an acceptable method of resolving differences.drink the koolaid much?
Now, a drinking-the-Kool-Aid comment coming from a Trump supporter, that IS funny.
LeafByNiggle
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The following (faulty) observations are merely a deflection. They do not address the question of whether a Trump presidency is dangerous (as described in the open letter from 50 Republican security experts), which is the subject of this thread and the subject of the specific post you responded to.
The question should be “Are they as dangerous as Trump?”. The answer is “no”.
Did you read the letter in which those reasons were listed?
…or so fear mongers would have you believe. Actually, it is not a “disaster”.
You are quite free with the term “disaster”. However you are more lacking in details than the security experts who say Trump is dangerous.
Isn’t education mostly a state matter? Again, where is the “disaster”?
I don’t recall Trump’s platform including money for massive construction of roads and bridges. I suspect it will be more of a disaster after a Trump administration (provided the country is still here!)
You really over-use that word.
Deflection. They did not gather to discuss your pet issues.
Stop the demand for heroin, and that will stop the supply.
Wrong. It’s one of the best.
True. But whose fault is that?
The money released to Iran was their own money that has been impounded without interest. It is not a “disaster” to try not to alienate everyone, as Trump would do.
Not sure what you mean by “uncontested”. If you mean the use of that specific term, perhaps. If you mean the actual movement and organization of ISIS and similar groups, no, they are most certainly contested.
Fear mongering.
That’s not the worst thing in the world.
It is not the government that is forcing them. It is the market.
They are not forced to pay anything for that.
Depends on where it was posted.
Because everyone wants an MBA rather than an engineering degree. MBAs are richly rewarded. Engineers are not. Sputnik scared us in the 1950’s into pushing science and math, and we excelled. Now we lost that drive. And who do we hold up for admiration? An engineer? A scientist? No. A businessman. Donald Trump. (“I want to be just like him when I grow up. I don’t have to study math. I just have to tell people ‘You’re fired’ and I can make a lot of money!”)
Mary_Gail_36
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Precisely.
O’Connor and Kennedy come to mind.
If the Supreme Court is the strongest reason to vote for Trump, it isn’t very strong.
Thomas, Alito, and Roberts are on the younger side. They would not be replaced.
If the liberal ones are replaced by Clinton, it maintains the status quo.
The only change is Scalia. Who sadly passed away during the Obama administration.
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Ion
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So what exactly are the dangers? That he will take an unsecured server with all the secret data at his home in the Trump building so his wife can impersonate him and play president?
That he will consider all the messages exchanged as president his personal do what your muscle wants?That he will set up a charity where anybody, including most dubious figures, can deposit money and expect personal favors? That he will apoint judges directors and prosecutors who will do what they are told by him, anyhow?
No experience? Anyway he can do nothing without the support of a party.
No values? No character? This is a long shot. You have to look at what one did in order to have such concerns. This is only bla bla bla
So what are the ‘national security’ problems other than their experts are expected to produce results?
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Peter_J
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But let me lay out a scenario: Republicans compromise and support Johnson, Democrats don’t compromise and get behind Clinton, basically sealing her victory. If that is the case, then come mid-October I think conservative Johnsonites (if they’re smart) will have to say “Alright, if that’s the way they’re gonna play, then we shouldn’t compromise either” and switch their support to Trump.I can’t speak for everyone, but for everyone I’ve talked with (of all political affiliations), nobody wants Clinton or Trump. That might be because I’m from Minnesota, and a lot of people here like third-party candidates. Many are planning to vote for Gary Johnson. It seems to change in regards to which major candidate will be affected by this more. In this particular election, I hope more people spend less time worrying about if a vote for Gary Johnson will take away form a major party candidate, and more time trying to get more people to vote for him. There are a lot of “Never Hillary” people that wanted Bernie, I’m trying to get them to vote for Johnson, and I know many that are considering it. The same goes for some that I’ve talked to that are "Never Trump"people.
He is by no means the perfect candidate, but I think he’s still much better than the other 2.
I know I will be praying for a Gary Johnson presidency. Hopefully others will join.
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zz912
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No, it’s not resolved. That’s his own story you linked to. Others do not agree with his claim of innocence.
complex.com/life/2016/01/shaun-king-black-lives-matter/self-promoter
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DeniseNY
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Very well said, zz. It’s shameful.
LeafByNiggle
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I challenge that characterization. Care to support it?
LaRaza is not a criminal gang. Some association with that organization is not necessarily a disqualifying feature.
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Al_Moritz
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The open letter pushes the RNC to shift resources to Senate and House races.
Link:
politico.com/story/2016/08/republicans-urge-rnc-cut-funds-trump-226918
More than 70 Republicans have signed an open letter to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus urging him to stop spending any money to help Donald Trump win in November and shift those contributions to Senate and House races.
The letter comes as a number of Republican senators and high-profile GOP national security officials have come forward saying they cannot vote for Trump.
“We believe that Donald Trump’s divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck,” states a draft of the letter obtained by POLITICO. “This should not be a difficult decision, as Donald Trump’s chances of being elected president are evaporating by the day.”
Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire and former Reps. Chris Shays of Connecticut, Tom Coleman of Missouri and Vin Weber of Minnesota are among the Republicans lending their name to the letter. Close to 20 of the co-signers are former RNC staffers, including Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist), Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary), Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary), Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director), Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary), B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen) and Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director).
Republican Andrew Weinstein, a vocal anti-Trump Republican, is one of the operatives organizing the letter, which began circulating earlier this week and is expected to be sent next week. Weinstein served as director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and was deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Weinstein said that the letter is coming from “People who want the party to protect its majorities in the Senate and the House. It’s not an endorsement of anybody.”
A spokesman for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The letter ticks off a series of Trump actions that they believe have "alienated millions of voters of all parties,” including, attacking Gold Star families, positive comments about violent foreign leaders and encouraging Russia to find Clinton’s lost emails.
“Those recent outrages have built on his campaign of anger and exclusion, during which he has mocked and offended millions of voters, including the disabled, women, Muslims, immigrants, and minorities,” the letter states. “He also has shown dangerous authoritarian tendencies, including threats to ban an entire religion from entering the country, order the military to break the law by torturing prisoners, kill the families of suspected terrorists, track law-abiding Muslim citizens in databases, and use executive orders to implement other illegal and unconstitutional measures.”
Link:
politico.com/story/2016/08/republicans-urge-rnc-cut-funds-trump-226918
More than 70 Republicans have signed an open letter to Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus urging him to stop spending any money to help Donald Trump win in November and shift those contributions to Senate and House races.
The letter comes as a number of Republican senators and high-profile GOP national security officials have come forward saying they cannot vote for Trump.
“We believe that Donald Trump’s divisiveness, recklessness, incompetence, and record-breaking unpopularity risk turning this election into a Democratic landslide, and only the immediate shift of all available RNC resources to vulnerable Senate and House races will prevent the GOP from drowning with a Trump-emblazoned anchor around its neck,” states a draft of the letter obtained by POLITICO. “This should not be a difficult decision, as Donald Trump’s chances of being elected president are evaporating by the day.”
Former Sen. Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire and former Reps. Chris Shays of Connecticut, Tom Coleman of Missouri and Vin Weber of Minnesota are among the Republicans lending their name to the letter. Close to 20 of the co-signers are former RNC staffers, including Mindy Finn (former RNC chief digital strategist), Christine Iverson Gunderson (former RNC press secretary), Virginia Hume Onufer (former RNC deputy press secretary), Beth Miller (former RNC field communications division director), Heather Layman (former deputy press secretary), B. Jay Cooper (former RNC communications director under four chairmen) and Patrick Ruffini (former RNC ecampaign director).
Republican Andrew Weinstein, a vocal anti-Trump Republican, is one of the operatives organizing the letter, which began circulating earlier this week and is expected to be sent next week. Weinstein served as director of media relations for the Dole/Kemp presidential campaign and was deputy press secretary to then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Weinstein said that the letter is coming from “People who want the party to protect its majorities in the Senate and the House. It’s not an endorsement of anybody.”
A spokesman for the RNC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The letter ticks off a series of Trump actions that they believe have "alienated millions of voters of all parties,” including, attacking Gold Star families, positive comments about violent foreign leaders and encouraging Russia to find Clinton’s lost emails.
“Those recent outrages have built on his campaign of anger and exclusion, during which he has mocked and offended millions of voters, including the disabled, women, Muslims, immigrants, and minorities,” the letter states. “He also has shown dangerous authoritarian tendencies, including threats to ban an entire religion from entering the country, order the military to break the law by torturing prisoners, kill the families of suspected terrorists, track law-abiding Muslim citizens in databases, and use executive orders to implement other illegal and unconstitutional measures.”
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Ion
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Unfortunateky the press business is going so bad that reporters write articles by order, the same way as commercials are ordered.
Thrre is no backbone or faith anymore, only restlessly argumentation, in the Russel teapot manner.
There was a guy in a night show saying:" don’t ever say anything wrong about Trump, his numbers will go up right away"
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Joie_de_Vivre
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Johnson is pulling more from Clinton than Trump so if Johnson pulls 15% it’d probably increase Trump’s odds of victory
He was also associated with a group associated with LaRaza so we are already playing six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
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adowcday
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In a recent speech, Donald Trump called President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, “founders of ISIS.” In follow-up interviews, Trump has doubled down on these claims, saying that he doesn’t just blame Obama for policies that were ineffective in stopping the growth of the group but that he literally founded ISIS.
abcnews.go.com/International/obama-founder-isis-guys/story?id=41299897
It should be noted that ISIS trace its history directly to Iraq in the mid-2000s, according to ISIS experts and analysts. After the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 under President George W. Bush, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda announced its allegiance with a local insurgent group and dubbed the organization al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). AQI was led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (who was killed in an American airstrike in 2006).
By the time President Obama took office in 2009, AQI had gone through a complex reshuffling, rebranded itself the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI). ISI was forced underground until the outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011. Leadership of the terror group eventually fell to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who had been detained by the American military in 2004 but was released by 2006 – well before Obama became the U.S. president.
Al-Baghdadi moved ISI into Syria and, after a falling out with al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, split completely with its former patron, al-Qaeda. In 2013 al-Baghdadi changed his organization’s name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), “reflecting its greater regional ambitions,” according to the State Department.
It’s hard to tell whether Trump is playing fast and loose with the facts or simply doesn’t know the facts.
abcnews.go.com/International/obama-founder-isis-guys/story?id=41299897
It should be noted that ISIS trace its history directly to Iraq in the mid-2000s, according to ISIS experts and analysts. After the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003 under President George W. Bush, Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda announced its allegiance with a local insurgent group and dubbed the organization al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI). AQI was led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (who was killed in an American airstrike in 2006).
By the time President Obama took office in 2009, AQI had gone through a complex reshuffling, rebranded itself the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI). ISI was forced underground until the outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011. Leadership of the terror group eventually fell to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who had been detained by the American military in 2004 but was released by 2006 – well before Obama became the U.S. president.
Al-Baghdadi moved ISI into Syria and, after a falling out with al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, split completely with its former patron, al-Qaeda. In 2013 al-Baghdadi changed his organization’s name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), “reflecting its greater regional ambitions,” according to the State Department.
It’s hard to tell whether Trump is playing fast and loose with the facts or simply doesn’t know the facts.
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Thorolfr
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