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sallybutler said:
This is sort of like someone saying don’t think about pink elephants. You can come back and say you didn’t mean it, but now the other person is thinking about pink elephants, are they possible, why shouldn’t I think about pink elephants, etc.

Maybe not bizarre, but excellent example of manipulation.
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If someone said to me “Obama and Clinton are the founders of ISIS” and subsequently said that the remark was sarcastic, then I would think that he/she was a Democrat.
 
Peter_J said:
Would you prefer a Clinton presidency over a Johnson presidency?
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Johnson has some ideas that are attractive, even though I don’t agree with everything. But then, I don’t agree on everything with Clinton either – obviously.

The question is, who has a realistic chance of winning? I guess between the two the answer is clear. I’d love to see a presidential debate though with Johnson included, which would give him a great opportunity to convince Americans, including me.

Both Johnson and Clinton though are vastly preferable to Trump who is flat-out unacceptable. In that sense I could be happy with either one.
 
Al_Moritz said:
The question is, who has a realistic chance of winning?
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At this point, I cannot say whether GEJ will have a chance of beating Clinton. I’d like to think that my fellow Americans would be willing to look at a compromise candidate, considering how bad not only Trump but only Clinton are, but I’ll be watching the polls. (We don’t even know yet whether Johnson will make it into the debates.)
 
Al_Moritz said:
Both Johnson and Clinton though are vastly preferable to Trump who is flat-out unacceptable. In that sense I could be happy with either one.
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I acknowledge that HRC has the best odds out of all three (or all however many if you prefer, but I’m not counting “fourth party candidates” as real contenders), but unlike you I wont be happy if she wins. 😦
 
TMC said:
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
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Yes, Trump now says it was “sarcasm.” But he also states it was “not that much sarcasm.” Apparently he wants to cover all the bases and explain the meaning of what he said about Obama and Hillary Clinton every which way he can. That makes sense. It’s perfectly normal to be as ambiguous as possible when running for POTUS, isn’t it?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton has failed at everything she has ever touched.

She was “co-president” for eight years.

Major accomplishment was destroying so many women for “bimbo eruptions”.

Then she was Senator from New York.

Was able to rename a post office.

Secretary of State.

Visited 117 countries.

Perpetual state of jet lag.

One accomplishment. Collected hundreds of millions of dollars for the Clinton Foundation, which is about 80% self-enrichment. Still waiting for the IRS audit of that fiasco.

Sold 50% of U.S. uranium to Russia and reaped a $145 million commission check.

Turns out her BFF has the critical missing emails. Huma.

Now Judicial Watch has gotten copies of those missing emails, that Hillary said didn’t exist.

There is a web site with the list of her associates who turned up dead.

And some people think she would be a good president.

Seriously?

She would complete Obama’s vision of bringing us to Venezuela.
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Hillary Clinton was a very good Senator of New York. She got things accomplished by working with both Democrats and Republicans and knowing how to compromise. Her work as Secretary of State is another matter.
 
meltzerboy said:
Hillary Clinton was a very good Senator of New York. She got things accomplished by working with both Democrats and Republicans and knowing how to compromise. Her work as Secretary of State is another matter.
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What did she accomplish as senator of New York?
 
meltzerboy said:
Hillary Clinton was a very good Senator of New York. She got things accomplished by working with both Democrats and Republicans and knowing how to compromise. Her work as Secretary of State is another matter.
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On jobs, she seems to have had problems:

As senator, Clinton promised 200,000 jobs in Upstate New York. Her efforts fell flat.

washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-senator-clinton-promised-200000-jobs-in-upstate-new-york-her-efforts-fell-flat/2016/08/07/339d3384-58d2-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html
 
Donald Trump keeps sinking in the polls. That’s surely a different experience for him than when he ran in the primaries. I think he’s ready for a nice, long, well-appointed vacation.
 
meltzerboy said:
If Trump believes that Obama literally FOUNDED ISIS, what can one say? Perhaps an extension of his birther claims. More likely, Trump meant to use the word “enabled” instead of “founded.” Otherwise, it’s much more serious than “playing fast and loose with the facts or simply (not knowing) the facts.”
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I think what he is saying is that Obama’s policies lead to the expansion of ISIS.
 
Al_Moritz said:
The Hill:
Trump’s loss could make the GOP extinct

Author:
Mackowiak is syndicated columnist; an Austin, Texas-based Republican consultant; and former Capitol Hill and George W. Bush administration aide.
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I always find this talk inane, there will always be yin and yang, where two or more parties compete for attention and adapt to their voters. The votes for both Bernie and Trump show significant numbers are deeply disaffected with Dem leadership.
 
Monte_RCMS said:
There is a web site with the list of her associates who turned up dead.
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There’s a website with a list of people who died on it? Wow, that’s pretty convincing evidence right there.

Come on, that’s just silly. I mean, I’m pretty good at putting websites together. I could have a site up and running with a list of ***your ***associates who turned up dead in about an hour.

This means nothing. The “Clinton Death List” stuff has been debunked endlessly. It’s just crackpot stuff.

I’m not a Clinton supporter. I’ve never voted for her, in a primary (I’m a New Yorker) or a general election. And I won’t, unless it looks like Trump has a serious shot at taking my state. Which is about as likely to happen as me being elected as the next Pope.

But that doesn’t mean I’m okay with political discourse being debased to this level.
 
Inisfallen said:
There’s a website with a list of people who died on it? Wow, that’s pretty convincing evidence right there.

Come on, that’s just silly. I mean, I’m pretty good at putting websites together. I could have a site up and running with a list of ***your ***associates who turned up dead in about an hour.

This means nothing. The “Clinton Death List” stuff has been debunked endlessly. It’s just crackpot stuff.

I’m not a Clinton supporter. I’ve never voted for her, in a primary (I’m a New Yorker) or a general election. And I won’t, unless it looks like Trump has a serious shot at taking my state. Which is about as likely to happen as me being elected as the next Pope.

But that doesn’t mean I’m okay with political discourse being debased to this level.
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In this context I would like to mention this article:

**I voted for Trump to destroy the GOP
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by Bruce Bartlett, who served as domestic policy adviser to Ronald Reagan and a Treasury Department official under George H.W.Bush. He also worked on Capitol Hill for the late Rep. Jack Kemp.

He also mentions consipracy theorists, among others.
 
TMC said:
After doubling, tripling, quadrupling down on his statement that Obama founded ISIS, and denying that he was speaking figuratively, this morning Trump is backing off of his ISIS comments and saying it was all a joke. Bizarre.
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jihadwatch.org/2016/08/media-in-frenzy-over-trump-claim-that-obama-and-hillary-founded-isis-ignores-dia-document-showing-how-they-did

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LeafByNiggle said:
I did look it . Here. And here. That’s why I said it was not a criminal gang, and not a disqualifying feature for a judge.
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theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/07/la-raza-judge-gonzalo-curiel-and-the-hispanic-national-bar-association/

excerpt:

The Hispanic National Bar Association published a press release on July 2nd 2015 which specifically stated their intention to target the “business interests” of Donald Trump:

Now, I doubt you could find a more conformational reason for Donald Trump to be concerned about a Judge overseeing the Trump University lawsuit, which everyone admits is based on some sketchy legal standing, than Judge Curiel specifically belonging to a legal enterprise of affiliates who have clearly stated their intent to target Trump’s business interests.

Recap:

The attorney group leading the lawsuit against Trump are heavily involved in Democrat politics and have paid Bill and Hillary Clinton $675,000 for “speeches”. (link)

The Judge in the lawsuit is an open borders immigration activist with direct ties to San Diego La Raza, and has openly engaged with them on their political endeavors. (link) and (link) including scholarships for illegal aliens.

The Trump lawsuit relies (in part) on testimony from a former disgruntled employee of the Trump Organization who went to work for notorious #NeverTrump activist Glenn Beck. (link)

The Judge then “accidentally” releases court records which provides the media with the names, locations, and contact information of the plaintiffs and witnesses in the case, which fuels the media narrative. (link)

After the “mistaken” release, Judge Curiel reseals the court records. (link)

The Judge is a member of an ethnic legal group, HNBA, whose specific and publicly expressed intentions are to target Donald Trump’s business interests (link)
 
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