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Monte_RCMS said:
What did he save … exactly?

During the Reagan years, the average annual GDP increase was 3.5% per year.

During the Clinton years, the average annual GDP increase was 3.9% per year.

During the George W. Bush years, the average annual GDP increase was 2.0% per year.

During the Obama years, the average annual GDP increase was 1.5% per year.

Obama has brought us the worst recovery ever.
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What are you all going to do for jobs if Hillary gets in, and continues to tank the economy in the Obama pattern?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/07/la-raza-judge-gonzalo-curiel-and-the-hispanic-national-bar-association/

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The Hispanic National Bar Association published a press release on July 2nd 2015 which specifically stated their intention to target the “business interests” of Donald Trump:…
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There is nothing wrong with a group coming together to advocate for the rights of an oppressed minority. And there is nothing wrong with a judge being a member of that group. What you have not shown is that Judge Curiel himself was involved in any anti-Trump activity that would raise a conflict of interest issue. The charges are just guilt by association.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
it is spreading! - the mass amnesia of what the word “founder” means.
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Clearly Trump is just being progressive and smart by using a tried and true leftist, relativist and liberal technique.

That would be the technique of unilaterally changing the meaning of words to suit yourself. It’s been done with amazing success by liberal relativists who have assumed to themselves the power to change words like marriage, gender, sex, justice, gay, rape, moral, human being, reasonable, good, bad, etc., to make those words mean whatever the speaker wants them to mean.

The thing is “It’s 2016” and therefore whatever act or decision you wish to make can be justified by the fact that it is a change and new… and a change… and new. No further need to justify your actions.

One person’s “mass amnesia” is another person’s perfectly sound logical flourish.

It worked well for Justin Trudeau as an absolutely bullet proof argument for his political decisions.

youtu.be/LLk2aSBrR6U

Well, okay, he used “It’s 2015.” Which makes him wrong and confused in 2016, since the reason he used then no longer works today because… well, it’s 2016 and things are now new and different and have changed.

What fun, this leftist progressivist way of thinking. 😃

And Trump is all about fun, you see.

He was just funnin’ the leftists and the press.

You are far too uptight about such things. You take things far too seriously. You are going to give yourself some kind of stress related medical condition. Relax. Have fun. Let loose… It’s 2016, after all!
 
From today’s Guardian:
Donald Trump has stepped up his argument that the presidential election will be rigged in favour of Hillary Clinton, claiming that the only way he can lose Pennsylvania is “if cheating goes on”.
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Whereas Trump regularly cited opinion polls when he was winning the Republican primaries, his poor showing in recent national surveys has left him sowing doubt about the integrity of the process, even before a vote is cast.
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Speaking at a rally in Altoona, Pennsylvania, on Friday evening, the celebrity tycoon said: “We’re gonna watch Pennsylvania. Go down to certain areas and watch and study and make sure other people don’t come in and vote five times. The only way we can lose, in my opinion – and I really mean this, Pennsylvania – is if cheating goes on. I really believe it.”
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theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/13/donald-trump-claims-cheating-is-only-way-he-can-lose-pennsylvania
 
According to new polls of battleground states, Trump is behind in Florida by 5 points, in North Carolina by 9 points, in Virginia by 13 points and in Colorado by 14 points.
“These are supposed to be battleground states, but right now, they don’t look that way,” says Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion.
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Indeed, if Clinton ultimately wins all four, Trump has no realistic path to getting the 270 electoral votes needed for victory. And even if Trump is able to win in Florida and its 29 electoral votes, he has to run the table in the other battlegrounds, including in Pennsylvania.
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nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/polls-clinton-running-table-key-battlegrounds-n629136
 
_Abyssinia said:
There is some curiosity why Trump’s next campaign stop is in Connecticut, which I may have read is seen as a safe state for Democrats in presidential elections:washingtonexaminer.com/trump-to-host-rally-in-conn.but-why/article/2599243

Interestingly enough, that campaign stop will be at a Catholic University, Sacred Heart University.
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A previous poll has shown he can compete there. I would imagine a lot of well-to-do folks aren’t very happy with the president or the sitting governor.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Any poll that doesn’t show political affiliation breakdown and doesn’t show likely voters belongs in the garbage can.
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Interesting article from Five Thirty Eight, “The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly”
We’ve reached that stage of the campaign. The back-to-school commercials are on the air, and the “unskewing” of polls has begun — the quadrennial exercise in which partisans simply adjust the polls to get results more to their liking, usually with a thin sheen of math-y words to make it all sound like rigorous analysis instead of magical thinking.
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If any of this sounds familiar — and if I sound a little exasperated — it’s probably because we went through this four years ago. Remember UnSkewedPolls.com? (The website is defunct, but you can view an archived picture of it here.) The main contention of that site and others like it was that the polls had too many Democratic respondents in their samples. Dean Chambers, who ran the site, regularly wrote that the polls were vastly undercounting independents and should have used a higher proportion of Republicans in their samples. But in the end, the polls underestimated President Obama’s margin.
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Now the unskewers are back, again insisting that pollsters are “using” more Democrats than they should, and that the percentage of Democrats and Republicans should be equal, or that there should be more Republicans. They point to surveys like the recent one from ABC News and The Washington Post, in which 33 percent of registered voters identified as Democrats compared to 27 percent as Republicans. That poll found Hillary Clinton ahead by 8 percentage points.
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But let’s say this plainly: The polls are not “skewed.” They weren’t in 2012, and they aren’t now.
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fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/
 
Thorolfr said:
Interesting article from Five Thirty Eight, “The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly”

fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/
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Check what James Carville says in this 5th of August published article. I don’t think he is a Trump supporter since he was Bill Clinton’s campaign strategist. Even he makes the point that the Democratic samples were too high, at least at the time of this article. Also see the comments from a “Clinton campaign operative”:
James Carville, the famed campaign strategist of Bill Clinton’s 1992 run, tells U.S. News he’s heard that some Democratic pollsters suspended their surveys this week, because their samples were reading too Democratic and were not representative of the ultimate electorate.
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“After a convention produces these bumps, the Democrats want to stay on the phone for the interview and Republicans don’t. It produces a very high party ID. You expect an 8-point spread on Democratic ID, and they’re coming in at 12 and 14,” Carville says. “Yes, there’s a big bounce now, but let’s wait awhile. It’ll settle into a good place, but it won’t settle into where it is.”
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Even those inside Clinton’s campaign are wrestling with what the flood of data means for their standing. One Clinton campaign operative, who could not speak on the record without the campaign leadership’s permission, admits “the numbers are particularly haywire right now.”
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Clinton is undoubtedly ahead of Trump, he says, but the real test of her staying power will be where she stands in surveys two weeks from now, once the afterglow of the convention has faded.
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“Sure there are some Democrats who think we’ve got it in the bag. I just think there’s too much staying power for him with people so upset at the political system,” the operative says. “He’s not going anywhere. I think it’ll tighten up, it always does.”
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usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-05/hillary-clintons-newest-challenge-great-expectations
 
Thorolfr said:
Interesting article from Five Thirty Eight, “The Polls Aren’t Skewed: Trump Really Is Losing Badly”

fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-arent-skewed-trump-really-is-losing-badly/
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The major difference between 2012 and 2016 is that the DNC candidate has so many albatrosses around her neck that they will determine the election – at least if rational, decent, human beings still comprise the majority of the voting public.

Either those albatrosses will take flight and lift Hillary to a soaring win or they will drop dead and sink her like great millstones dragging her thrashing to the bottom of the poll results.

Too many unknowns loom in the near future to make any current polls very reliable at all.

Time, not pollsters, will tell.

If justice has anything to do with it, the latter is by far the proper end.
 
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