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TCEL said:
Would Hillary get re-elected in four years?
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Trump said so. Which is not to say that I believe everything that he says, but I take that seriously because he’s probably the one and only person who could guarantee it happening.
 
meltzerboy said:
The latter is a good point, yet it is precisely the reason (lack of public service experience) why many people are attracted to Trump as a candidate. I think this is because people don’t trust those who are in public service, associating this with corruption and the like.
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Hitting the nail on the head… :yup:
 
zz912 said:
Building a successful business that employs a lot of people is not a noble accomplishment worthy of praise? Why not?
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The word I was looking for, but couldn’t think of at the time was altruistic. Running a big business is nice, but not an altruistic endeavor. And more to the point, it does not count as public service experience.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The word I was looking for, but couldn’t think of at the time was altruistic. Running a big business is nice, but not an altruistic endeavor. And more to the point, it does not count as public service experience.
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But of course, showing up and pushing a button marked “present” fully qualifies one to be President.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Please look up the difference between a necessary condition and a sufficient condition.
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Let’s look at the “necessary conditions” for being President of the United States:
US Constitution:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
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So far as the law is concerned, anyone who meets these requirements fulfills all qualifications to be President of the United States. Anything beyond that is not a condition, it’s a preference.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The word I was looking for, but couldn’t think of at the time was altruistic. Running a big business is nice, but not an altruistic endeavor. And more to the point, it does not count as public service experience.
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Trump HAS to operate within his budget or go out of business.

In government, politicians NEVER go out of business.

Fannie Mae … Freddie Mac … SHOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.

Veterans Administration … SHOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS.
 
Sy_Noe said:
Wow. Quite a statement from Chaput considering he has previously been quoted on CAF when it comes to voting and abortion choice. He said in 2012 when asked whether a Catholic could vote for Obama in good faith, “I can only speak in terms of my own personal views. I certainly can’t vote for somebody who’s either pro-choice or pro-abortion.” I guess though this settles the question often debated on CAF about voting at least for this cycle. He says good Catholic people can choose not to vote or vote 3rd party or vote for one or the other of the major party candidates this year.
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One thing, at least, is definitely surprising to me in the Archbishop’s statements: where he said that Catholics could decide to support either. I don’t know what to think of that.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
The word I was looking for, but couldn’t think of at the time was altruistic. Running a big business is nice, but not an altruistic endeavor. And more to the point, it does not count as public service experience.
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I can think of a lot of words to describe Hillat Clinto
 
Monkey1976 said:
Let’s look at the “necessary conditions” for being President of the United States:So far as the law is concerned, anyone who meets these requirements fulfills all qualifications to be President of the United States. Anything beyond that is not a condition, it’s a preference.
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That is just a pedantic mis-characterization of the preceding discussion. We were not talking about the constitutional mininums. We were talking about the role of experience in public service. I claimed it is a practical, if not legal, requirement for the leader of the most powerful nation on earth. Unfortunately, some people try to turn this position around as if I were saying experience is a sufficient condition, which of course I never said.
 
meltzerboy said:
I think this is because people don’t trust those who are in public service, associating this with corruption and the like.
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Very sad (regardless of how much ya think they deserve it or don’t deserve it).

As we’ve all seen countless times, it’s a lot easier – and more enjoyable – to be critical of a situation than to improve it. :o
 
Peter_J said:
One thing, at least, is definitely surprising to me in the Archbishop’s statements: where he said that Catholics could decide to support either. I don’t know what to think of that.
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Especially from this archbishop!
 
Monte_RCMS said:
Trump’s actual deeds contradict what you are saying.

People like him … because he is generous and because he keeps his word.
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Please.

Hispanics love their families. When you say stuff like: I’m building a wall, I’m deporting all the immigrants, every person that comes from Mexico is a rapist, (when he was in Vermont I think it was and plane flew above) he said its Mexico, their going to bomb us.

He can have 10 awards for being the nicest person in the world, but Hispanics as a whole will not vote for him.
 
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