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mary_bobo said:
Will he ban Irish Catholics next?:rolleyes:
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Not by what he’s stated so far… But he may ban Filipino Catholics however since he’s designated the Philippines as a “terrorist nation.” Hits close to home for me since a good friend of mine’s wife is a Filipino Catholic immigrant from within the last 5 years or so. And it already was a nightmare for them to get her over here without rhetoric about her country being a “terrorist nation” being thrown around. :rolleyes:
 
So crybaby Trump thinks it isn’t freedom of speech when the press is mean to him. WAH!! He needs some remedial classes in Con Law 101, esp, the 1st Amendment.

He definitely needs to grow a thicker skin, especially if he’s elected. He’s right. The press doesn’t like him. They will never like him. Live with it.
 
mary_bobo said:
Will he ban Irish Catholics next?:rolleyes:
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Actually, it’s funny you should have asked that…

bigstory.ap.org/article/dab801a6d01341ee8f0a52a2b41ed989/trump-looking-institute-political-tests-immigrants
Trump is also expected to propose creating a new, ideological test for admission to the country that would assess a candidate’s stances on issues like religious freedom, gender equality and gay rights. Through questionnaires, searching social media, interviewing friends and family or other means, applicants would be vetted to see whether they support American values like tolerance and pluralism.
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A Good Irish Catholic might just run afoul of those tests if they oppose gay rights and “traditional” gender roles…
 
meltzerboy said:
How interesting. I guess if Trump is elected, conservatives of all religions had better convert to liberalism if they wish to immigrate to the U.S.
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Yes, imagining Trump as champion of religious freedom always seemed delusional after his advocacy for a Muslim ban.

I think it requires quite a contortion of mind to believe that Hillary would be any worse.
 
What exactly did Trump say negative about Mormons and where can I actually hear the video as I don’t believe the written word by the media.

Also it one would be honest, we all should know that it is because of Romney, a Mormon who lost his last election and lives in Utah. Also he was one of the first anti Trumpers who sorta started the mess. Trump gave Romney money for his campaign and supported him and in return he stabs Trump is the back.

Trump never said all Muslims, only those from Syria should have a temporary ban until they could be vetted.

Also if one forgets that Cruz said at a debate after Trump mentioned the illegals coming in, that he (Cruz) would make all the 12 million to back across the boarder and NEVER be allowed back in either legally or not where Trump just said they need to come back legally.

I do wonder how all this misinformation seems to be on these threads. I have always heard that Catholics were always Democrats and I do believe it must be true after reading so many unchristian remarks. Also instead of just getting your information from the media, including FOX try doing real research and you might find misinformation is being said or written. Of course many websites have been cleaned up and it is difficult to find the truth.

Many comments are made about Trump, but no proof has been shown. He might say things that he doesn’t explain what he actually means as he doesn’t have a politician to tell him the same story we get every election from them, of course nothing is ever done, no changes are made. Who really knows if Trump could be good as president. Also I just don’t deal well with falsehoods, as some are saying he is pro abortion and he has stated many times he is prolife. I know whatever he says is dismissed as a lie and after hearing his speeches there is always something wrong one will find, either he isn’t talking about policy (although I haven’t heard Hillary) or instead he isn’t attacking Hillary. It seems impossible for him to do anything right. Although we are suppose to be Christians, I do wonder when all I see is hate.

Maybe neither candidate is what one wants, but we should never be so judgmental and risk, our Lord judging us the same. Also I would appreciate no responses as all one seems to get from those who disagree are not very nice. We can have opinions without the nasty comments that seem to frequent opinions.

Bernadette
 
Padres1969 said:
Not by what he’s stated so far… But he may ban Filipino Catholics however since he’s designated the Philippines as a “terrorist nation.” Hits close to home for me since a good friend of mine’s wife is a Filipino Catholic immigrant from within the last 5 years or so. And it already was a nightmare for them to get her over here without rhetoric about her country being a “terrorist nation” being thrown around. :rolleyes:
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For a time, I worked on getting H1b visas for Filipino health workers, mainly physical therapists and nurses. I liked them a lot, and they were extremely grateful to their employers for getting them the chance to work here. Wonderful people, and I have long believed the U.S. “owes” it to the Philippines to allow virtually unrestricted immigration from there.

But parts of the Philippines are Islamic terrorist nests; nests that are as threatening to Christian Filipinos as they would be to Americans here.

Call me whatever you want, but I would (as with Syria) favor allowing virtually unrestricted immigration by Christian Filipinos and Filipinas. But I would not favor allowing it from the Islamist areas at all. There is also a historical justification for it. The U.S. fought a bitter war against the “Moros” (Muslims) in the Philippines, and they never forgot it even if we did.

And it is no constitutional violation to admit or refuse to admit immigrants on the basis of religion, political beliefs or anything of that nature.
 
Ridgerunner said:
For a time, I worked on getting H1b visas for Filipino health workers, mainly physical therapists and nurses. I liked them a lot, and they were extremely grateful to their employers for getting them the chance to work here. Wonderful people, and I have long believed the U.S. “owes” it to the Philippines to allow virtually unrestricted immigration from there.

But parts of the Philippines are Islamic terrorist nests; nests that are as threatening to Christian Filipinos as they would be to Americans here.

Call me whatever you want, but I would (as with Syria) favor allowing virtually unrestricted immigration by Christian Filipinos and Filipinas. But I would not favor allowing it from the Islamist areas at all. There is also a historical justification for it. The U.S. fought a bitter war against the “Moros” (Muslims) in the Philippines, and they never forgot it even if we did.

And it is no constitutional violation to admit or refuse to admit immigrants on the basis of religion, political beliefs or anything of that nature.
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How would you establish that someone is a Christian? Would there be a test?

Proof of baptism?

What if the baptism occurred within the past week? Would that be deemed too convenient and coincidental?
 
PRmerger said:
How would you establish that someone is a Christian? Would there be a test?

Proof of baptism?

What if the baptism occurred within the past week? Would that be deemed too convenient and coincidental?
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Notice that Trump is no longer talking about an all-out (temporary) ban on Muslims but instead is now discussing the notion of “extreme vetting” of Muslims who come from dangerous parts of the world. Just how this proposal is supposed to work is unclear with regard to such matters as whether it includes temporary visas and what kind of test is to be administered as well as when. I suppose the details can be hammered out although Trump says he wants to enact this proposal as soon as he becomes President.
 
meltzerboy said:
Notice that Trump is no longer talking about an all-out (temporary) ban on Muslims but instead is now discussing the notion of “extreme vetting” of Muslims who come from dangerous parts of the world. Just how this proposal is supposed to work is unclear with regard to such matters as whether it includes temporary visas and what kind of test is to be administered as well as when.
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Also, I understand he’s proposed that even legal immigrants may be deported.

philly.com/philly/news/politics/presidential/Donald_Trump_now_says_even_legal_immigrants_are_a_security_threat.html
 
So gotta ask. . .

Anyone around here HONESTLY think that Trump might win in November?
 
I want more details into how this vetting is going to take place.
I remember when my husband was applying for his permanent residency and then his citizenship, and the vetting process was underwhelming. But, I do admit that my husband was awarded his green card before 9/11. So the process may have changed. He had to fill out a form that asked questions like:

“Are you here in this country to commit acts of espionage?” If someone is really a spy would they honestly answer yes to that question?
“Were you a member of the Nazi regime?” As if someone is going to admit membership to that on a federal form.
And the other one that I specificcally remember was,
“Do you participate in polygamy?”

So, how is Trumps vetting process going to be different? And how is he going to differentiate between those immigrants who have nefarious intentions from those who are innocent?
 
Millie123 said:
I want more details into how this vetting is going to take place.
I remember when my husband was applying for his permanent residency and then his citizenship, and the vetting process was underwhelming. But, I do admit that my husband was awarded his green card before 9/11. So the process may have changed. He had to fill out a form that asked questions like:

“Are you here in this country to commit acts of espionage?” If someone is really a spy would they honestly answer yes to that question?
“Were you a member of the Nazi regime?” As if someone is going to admit membership to that on a federal form.
And the other one that I specificcally remember was,
“Do you participate in polygamy?”

So, how is Trumps vetting process going to be different? And how is he going to differentiate between those immigrants who have nefarious intentions from those who are innocent?
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He hasn’t listed too many specifics, but it would involve interviews with family and friends, and social media mining at the very least based on what he’s said so far. To determine if you have un-American views on things like religious freedom, gay rights, marriage, etc…

Which should be chilling for anyone Catholic since many your views on many of these topics don’t align with his…
 
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