But, that is not what he said in his speech today. He was specifically saying that he was going to vet immigrants that dont share American principles…So what are those American principles that he was referring to? Could Catholic immigrants who dont share in "American principle"of gay marriage also be vetted out?Irish Catholics are not a terrorist threat to America!
I agree that is very chilling. My other question is with all of his lofty immigration goals between building that massive wall along the border, rounding up all of the illegal immigrants and shipping them home, and now this plan of extreme vetting those immigrants who don’t share “American Principles” I want to know how is he going to pay for all of this?He hasn’t listed too many specifics, but it would involve interviews with family and friends, and social media mining at the very least based on what he’s said so far. To determine if you have un-American views on things like religious freedom, gay rights, marriage, etc…
Which should be chilling for anyone Catholic since many your views on many of these topics don’t align with his…
i listened to a right wing radio host tonight bemoaning the fact that the media has been demonized to such an extent that no one believes ( on the Republican side) anything the media says. Now there is a problem because no one really believes the threat to democracy that Trump is. I guess one really reaps what one sows.What exactly did Trump say negative about Mormons and where can I actually hear the video as I don’t believe the written word by the media.
Also it one would be honest, we all should know that it is because of Romney, a Mormon who lost his last election and lives in Utah. Also he was one of the first anti Trumpers who sorta started the mess. Trump gave Romney money for his campaign and supported him and in return he stabs Trump is the back.
Trump never said all Muslims, only those from Syria should have a temporary ban until they could be vetted.
Also if one forgets that Cruz said at a debate after Trump mentioned the illegals coming in, that he (Cruz) would make all the 12 million to back across the boarder and NEVER be allowed back in either legally or not where Trump just said they need to come back legally.
I do wonder how all this misinformation seems to be on these threads. I have always heard that Catholics were always Democrats and I do believe it must be true after reading so many unchristian remarks. Also instead of just getting your information from the media, including FOX try doing real research and you might find misinformation is being said or written. Of course many websites have been cleaned up and it is difficult to find the truth.
Many comments are made about Trump, but no proof has been shown. He might say things that he doesn’t explain what he actually means as he doesn’t have a politician to tell him the same story we get every election from them, of course nothing is ever done, no changes are made. Who really knows if Trump could be good as president. Also I just don’t deal well with falsehoods, as some are saying he is pro abortion and he has stated many times he is prolife. I know whatever he says is dismissed as a lie and after hearing his speeches there is always something wrong one will find, either he isn’t talking about policy (although I haven’t heard Hillary) or instead he isn’t attacking Hillary. It seems impossible for him to do anything right. Although we are suppose to be Christians, I do wonder when all I see is hate.
Maybe neither candidate is what one wants, but we should never be so judgmental and risk, our Lord judging us the same. Also I would appreciate no responses as all one seems to get from those who disagree are not very nice. We can have opinions without the nasty comments that seem to frequent opinions.
Bernadette
He did:Trump never said all Muslims, only those from Syria should have a temporary ban until they could be vetted.
He gives no details, only generalities. If one wants details they should go to Hillary’s website. Personally, I think the devil is in the details. So those that think Hillary is the devil should at least read the details.I agree that is very chilling. My other question is with all of his lofty immigration goals between building that massive wall along the border, rounding up all of the illegal immigrants and shipping them home, and now this plan of extreme vetting those immigrants who don’t share “American Principles” I want to know how is he going to pay for all of this?
Trump didn’t say anything negative about Mormons, but Mormons have taken his Muslim ban very negatively, justfiedly so, since it reminded them of their own religious oppression. Tea Party Republican Senator Mike Lee from Utah specifically mentioned the Muslim ban as a reason why he cannot endorse Trump. Trump struggles in the polls in Utah, while Romney won the state in 2012 over Obama by 48 points.What exactly did Trump say negative about Mormons and where can I actually hear the video as I don’t believe the written word by the media.
Exactly.Trump didn’t say anything negative about Mormons, but Mormons have taken his Muslim ban very negatively, justfiedly so, since it reminded them of their own religious oppression. Tea Party Republican Senator Mike Lee from Utah specifically mentioned the Muslim ban as a reason why he cannot endorse Trump. Trump struggles in the polls in Utah, while Romney won the state in 2012 over Obama by 48 points.
Given what I pointed out above the question arises who is misinformed here. The media are doing the research so I don’t know what you mean by “doing real research”. Reading Breitbart, Drudge or Daily Caller? That won’t get you very far with the truth.I do wonder how all this misinformation seems to be on these threads. I have always heard that Catholics were always Democrats and I do believe it must be true after reading so many unchristian remarks. Also instead of just getting your information from the media, including FOX try doing real research and you might find misinformation is being said or written. Of course many websites have been cleaned up and it is difficult to find the truth.
Right. If one isn’t going to believe the media nor believe what he actually says, what the heck does one base their opinion on?He did:
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on,”
cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/
You said you don’t believe the media:
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until we can figure out what is going on,”
- a bad strategy to get to the truth
- you really don’t have to believe the media on this one anyway. Trump said above words himself at a rally in December 2015, or rather he abbreviated it:
There is video footage of Trump saying this. Look it up. Should be on Youtube somewhere.
And so many base their argument on these sources. It’s so sad and scary at the same time.Given what I pointed out above the question arises who is misinformed here. The media are doing the research so I don’t know what you mean by “doing real research”. Reading Breitbart, Drudge or Daily Caller? That won’t get you very far with the truth.
Yes the right wing radio host was Charlie Sykes from Wisconsin. Smart man. He was vocally against Trump from the very beginning. Trump lost badly there in the primary, also thanks to Sykes’ heroic efforts to educate his listeners.i listened to a right wing radio host tonight bemoaning the fact that the media has been demonized to such an extent that no one believes ( on the Republican side) anything the media says. Now there is a problem because no one really believes the threat to democracy that Trump is. I guess one really reaps what one sows.
Thanks. The man made sense to me.Yes the right wing radio host was Charlie Sykes from Wisconsin. Smart man. He was vocally against Trump from the very beginning. Trump lost badly there in the primary, also thanks to Sykes’ heroic efforts to educate his listeners.
It is. That is the parallel universe that Charlie Sykes (see above) mentioned in his comments. He said the problem with demonizing the media – which he concedes he also took part in and now regrets it – is that by doing that you ensure that for many people there is no arbiter of the truth anymore.And so many base their argument on these sources. It’s so sad and scary at the same time.
That’s how the site Media Matters got started. The founder was instrumental in demonizing Anita Hill and he regretted his decision.It is. That is the parallel universe that Charlie Sykes (see above) mentioned in his comments. He said the problem with demonizing the media – which he concedes he also took part in and now regrets it – is that by doing that you ensure that for many people there is no arbiter of the truth anymore.
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It’s astonishing of the impenetrable bubble that most Trump supporters seem to live in, unable to see any fault at all in ANY of his ideas/plans/statements. Mind boggling.
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A Trump surrogate was talking to MSNBC’s Ari Melber about long term immigrants. Granted his answers seemed to me to be all over the place. But Ari reminded him that 911 attackers were here on visas and criminals can lie on a quiz. Also it was noted either in this interview or another that the Orlando shooter was born in NY.Notice that Trump is no longer talking about an all-out (temporary) ban on Muslims but instead is now discussing the notion of “extreme vetting” of Muslims who come from dangerous parts of the world. Just how this proposal is supposed to work is unclear with regard to such matters as whether it includes temporary visas and what kind of test is to be administered as well as when. I suppose the details can be hammered out although Trump says he wants to enact this proposal as soon as he becomes President.
I know Trump says he knows more than the generals. But Ike was one. Trump was a reality TV star.People are sick of the establishment. Trump isn’t an ideal candidate but he’s the first non-politician to gain a party nomination since Eisenhower in '52.