Trump tweets video with ‘white power’ chant, then deletes it

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Thbolt said:
Then I guess we can save a lot of money if they can’t use all that intelligence and medical organizations to protect the people in case of an emergency.
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That’s an interesting take, but an old one. “If the central government doesn’t do it, nobody can.”
Thbolt said:
You lost me at “leftist press” and then I gave it a second chance and got to “deep state” and decided there was nothing to be gained by reading the rest.
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Good for you
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Apraio
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I think he should pardon Stone, too. But good for you for mentioning one.
 
Thbolt said:
If you didn’t want to have this conversation, why did you post what you did in the forum instead of doing a PM?
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That’s none of your business. It is an open forum and as long as she follows forum rules, she can post.
JapaneseKappa said:
I suggest, that if you can’t discuss these issues online, that you should bring them up with the black members of your parish. I’m sure that your catholic (i.e. universal) parish has quite a diverse membership, and I’m also sure that they will have some educational responses if you say things like this:
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JonNC:
If a group of Caucasians wAnt to show pride in that, why would we deny them that right to free association?
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to their faces.
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So, are you saying that a “black power” organization is okay, but a “white power” organization is not.
Question: does not the claim that what Is okay for one race may do but not okay for another race fall under the definition of racism?
 
JonNC said:
So, are you saying that a “black power” organization is okay, but a “white power” organization is not.
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Look, I gave quite a detailed explanation of my position:
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Having a shared cultural heritage is certainly a valid basis for organizations, festivals, and parades. No one would object to a “German Cultural Fair” in their downtown or a “French Student Association” on a college campus. Since African-Americans share a cultural heritage, as you point out, it is perfectly fine for them to have analogous organizations. I will argue, however, that “______ Pride” organizations are an entirely different animal. They are not principally based on cultural heritag…
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In which I explain fully why white power organizations are not automatically bad, but are in this case.
 
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JapaneseKappa said:
In which I explain fully why white power organizations are not automatically bad, but are in this case.
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You didn’t answer my question.
Question: does not the claim that what Is okay for one race may do but not okay for another race fall under the definition of racism?
 
Question: does not the claim that what Is okay for one race may do but not okay for another race fall under the definition of racism?
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Without commenting on anything specifically, obviously not. Historical and cultural context matters.
 
JonNC said:
Question: does not the claim that what Is okay for one race may do but not okay for another race fall under the definition of racism?
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No, because we are not saying that it is inherently bad for one race to do a thing, we are saying it is bad in this context. Which I explained thoroughly in my previous response.
 
Regular_Atheist said:
Question: does not the claim that what Is okay for one race may do but not okay for another race fall under the definition of racism?
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That’s a reasonable response.
These things do matter. The problem with “white power”, other than the obvious fact that melanin doesn’t add to one’s “power”, is that, in the past, racist whites have used it.
They’ve also tried to co-opt the”okay” sigN and the Betsy Ross flag, both of which we should refuse to cede to them.
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It was meant to convey it was a lost cause. Take that in which ever way you wish.
 
I think that was said by a conservative (Edmund Burke).
 
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But the historical and cultural context of the Black Power movement is riddled with violence and black supremacy.

Why not support the NAACP or the Martin Luther King institute/foundation instead??
 
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josie_L said:
Well, I guess that means affirmative action FAILED BIG TIME!
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Conservatives: Affirmative action has made people discriminate against whites.

Also conservatives: Affirmative action has failed to change anyone’s behavior.
 
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