No, I meant even earlier than that, when Trump’s power was only through social media. The problem goes back ever further.LeafByNiggle:
I believe what you meant to say was, “was lawfully elected to the office of the president.”
The division exists, and Trump was unambiguous about which side he is on. Nor does this rampaging have anything whatever to do with racism, systemic, endemic, or otherwise. The attacks are on statues and memorials that celebrate us as a nation.
A culture that enslaved people for generations. A culture that still simultaneously demands black people protest peacefully, while punishing them for peacefully protesting. A culture that to this day denies the unique challenges that black people face in society.
No, those weren’t done by mobs though? The flagpole had been vandalized several times before over the past two years. The Douglass monument was done by the people who objected to his speech, perhaps they took it personally.
Here is the kind of leadership we would be better served by:
obamawhitehouse.archives.gov
But, as shown the the topic of this thread, he has done nothing to try to heal the great divisions in this country. So it he did not cause the situations he certainly has not done anything to heal the problems.
I suppose only if a group of people with nothing to do and for no other reason decided to topple statues for fun. Maybe there was divisiveness present which led to the violent acts? They did not happen in a vacuum.
Well, whites in 2020 America, and especially Republicans are certainly loaded with many negative stereotypes, like the one where they’re all supposed to be racist.
The only culture that ended slavery. Your culture increases anger and division by constantly telling people that they’re either the oppressed or oppressor.
And yet we had a black president and two black attorneys general. This isn’t their fault, either, but it points to the fact that the issues are in the big cities, by and large.
This is almost laughably incorrect. (Unless maybe you meant that because we were the last society still holding on to slavery, when we ended the practice, we ended it globally? That’s not quite true either though, Portugal, the Ottoman Empire, & African countries abolished slavery after us.)
…and over 40 white presidents. So what?
What an amazing amount of inventiveness to assert you have any idea who vandalized that monument, or why they did it. As for the content of his speech, given that he made it in 1852 when slavery still existed, it is hardly surprising that he said the Fourth of July revealed to the slave, more than any other day, injustice and cruelty.
You were the one who asserted a mob did it as an attack on our culture.
Whether they intended it as an attack on our culture is less relevant than the fact that it was such an attack, whatever their personal intent. That is the effect of this activity. One can either oppose it, or accept and foster it.
Three now…
For the same reason I feel threatened when the police kick in a door on an unsuspecting and completely innocent family to execute a “no-knock” warrant.
I’ll bite. I fear that the US government will borrow another $20 trillion from the federal reserve to make reparation payments to anyone who purports to be black (BTW- tangental question, can I self-identify as a black person and get such payment?), and then find out that we continue to have the racial strife/disharmony that we have now because the payments won’t fix a darn thing.
Even the Irish who suffered from the NINA? Or the Italians?
Carter: “The time for racial discrimination is over!” Media reports this was bravely stated, and a true mark of statesmanship.
Thank you for making explicit exactly what I suspected JonNC was thinking but refused to say.
Which then begin the frustrating search for exactly which rights JonNC believed were in danger of being torn down. The problem with saying it is the government borrowing XX trillion and doing YY with that money is it does not tear down any rights. As an individual, no one has the right not to have the government waste their money. An individual certainly has the right to try to prevent it by joining together with like-minded individuals in the democratic process to affect government policy. That is the only right our system of government provides in this respect - the right to try to influence government policy. Now there are other rights that are more individual, such as those in the Bill of Rights, that do not depend on getting a consensus. But the right not to have government waste tax money is not one of those individual rights. That is what I would have said to JonNC had he expressed the objection that you just made.
Given that the monument to the 54th Massachusetts Regiment in Boston was defaced with ACAB, BLM, and RIP George Floyd there is no particular reason to assume that the Douglass statue was targeted by someone opposed to the removal of Confederate statues. BLM and the woke mob attacked the Lincoln Emancipation statue depicting a liberated black man rising from slavery. That statue - to Lincoln - was built almost entirely from money donated by freed slaves. It was dedicated in 1876, and the keynote address was given by Frederick Douglass. If that one was unambiguously target by the far left why should we simply assume they would spare the Douglass statue?