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gracepoole said:
No argument here.

What works and what’s moral are not ipso facto the same thing.

What does it “spell” to you?

I do my best not to associate with avowed racists.

So if bin Laden had praised Trump, it would be wise politically for Trump to retweet it?
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White genocide could mean whites are being persecuted.

If Bin Laden could talk now, it would depend on what he says. If what he says is insightful, Trump could very well retweet it.
 
gracepoole said:
That’s exactly what white supremacists believe.
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If the definition of white supremacists is a person who believe whites are being persecuted, oh my goodness, I bet you might find a lot of good cops in that category.

Whether whites are being persecuted is a contentious issue. A person with that belief shouldn’t be called a racist.

A racist is one who believes he’s superior because of his race.

Big difference.
 
queenofheartscv said:
If the definition of white supremacists is a person who believe whites are being persecuted, oh my goodness, I bet you might find a lot of good cops in that category.

Whether whites are being persecuted is a contentious issue. A person with that belief shouldn’t be called a racist.

A racist is one who believes he’s superior because of his race.

Big difference.
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You’re the one who doesn’t seem to believe the Twitter handle @whitegenocideTM is associated with white supremacy. Here you go: twitter.com/fwhitegenocide

Enjoy that.

Be sure to scroll far enough to see its use of the entrance of Auschwitz to spread its “message.”
 
gracepoole said:
You’re the one who doesn’t seem to believe the Twitter handle @whitegenocideTM is associated with white supremacy. Here you go: twitter.com/fwhitegenocide

Enjoy that.

Be sure to scroll far enough to see its use of the entrance of Auschwitz to spread its “message.”
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I didn’t say that. I don’t care about this twitter handle or what they stand for. I’m only saying, judging by that handle alone you can’t tell this person is a white supremacist.

You then defined a white supremacist as a person who believes whites are being persecuted. Did i read you correctly there?
 
queenofheartscv said:
I didn’t say that. I don’t care about this twitter handle or what they stand for. I’m only saying, judging by that handle alone you can’t tell this person is a white supremacist.
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Is it politically wise for Trump to retweet white supremacists? It seems you think so. In any other election cycle, I’d guess doing something like that would be political suicide.
queenofheartscv said:
You then defined a white supremacist as a person who believes whites are being persecuted. Did i read you correctly there?
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You said “white genocide” could refer to whites being persecuted and I explained that this is what white supremacists believe.
 
gracepoole said:
Is it politically wise for Trump to retweet white supremacists? It seems you think so. In any other election cycle, I’d guess doing something like that would be political suicide.

You said “white genocide” could refer to whites being persecuted and I explained that this is what white supremacists believe.
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I certainly do not have enough wisdom to tell Trump what to do or not to do. If the retweets are not objectionable in content, I see no problem to condemn trump.

Does it make a person a white supremacist simply to believe whites are being persecuted? What’s your take?
 
meltzerboy said:
Of course Trump knows about the KKK and I believe he is also familiar with the ideology of David Duke. The fact that he does know about them makes his refusal to reject Duke’s endorsement so bad. I will, however, give him the benefit of playing politics, poorly in this instance, rather than actually approving of Duke’s ideas.
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Maybe he thinks since he has a university named after himself, maybe then David Duke is that Duke U guy. You know, like Brigham Young…John Harvard…Don Oxford…MIT Romney…

“Il Duce? I used to wear his shoes. Great guy. I like him. Great shoes.”
 
gracepoole said:
You said “white genocide” could refer to whites being persecuted and I explained that this is what white supremacists believe.
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White genocide and white supremacy are terms which are too strong and inflammatory to describe the injustice that some American whites and some American asians believe are being done in the name of affirmative action.
Because of US affirmative action programs, asians and whites have to score higher than others to get admitted to certain colleges or to land certain jobs. There are a lot of whites and asians from poor, low income, families who believe this is a form of reverse racial discrimination.
 
Mike Huckabee:

“Does anybody think Donald Trump is a racist? I don’t. I mean, I really don’t. I don’t know of anything in his life that indicates that this man has racist tendencies,”

“Here’s the thing.** I doubt he is as sensitive about just how deplorable David Duke is to many of us in the South,"** Huckabee said. “I think because I’m from the South, I’m more sensitive and frankly more repulsed by racism than maybe people who didn’t grow up here.”

"And if the party bosses don’t get the guy they want, then what are they gonna do? They’re gonna disavow the person the people wanted?** If we have to be loyal to the party, Joe, shouldn’t the party be loyal to us?”**

Read more: politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/mike-huckabee-donald-trump-kkk-219954#ixzz41bHCibVc
 
I think Trump is the only Republican candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton. All the people saying he is unelectable are the same people who were saying he wouldn’t make it past the first debate. The GOP is scared of him because they can’t control him. But they need to face facts that he’s their best shot.
 
Tomdstone said:
White genocide and white supremacy are terms which are too strong and inflammatory to describe the injustice that some American whites and some American asians believe are being done in the name of affirmative action.
Because of US affirmative action programs, asians and whites have to score higher than others to get admitted to certain colleges or to land certain jobs. There are a lot of whites and asians from poor, low income, families who believe this is a form of reverse racial discrimination.
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Since I’m not one of these folks, I can’t offer anything here. I simply read what @whitegenocideTM tweets and reported it.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Does it make a person a white supremacist simply to believe whites are being persecuted? What’s your take?
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No. Persecution and genocide aren’t the same thing. It’s likely, however, that belief that whites are being persecuted is one necessary precondition for being a white supremacist.
 
gracepoole said:
No. Persecution and genocide aren’t the same thing. It’s likely, however, that belief that whites are being persecuted is one necessary precondition for being a white supremacist.
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Ok, glad that’s cleared up, whew!
 
EmeraldOak said:
I think Trump is the only Republican candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton. All the people saying he is unelectable are the same people who were saying he wouldn’t make it past the first debate. The GOP is scared of him because they can’t control him. But they need to face facts that he’s their best shot.
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Possibly. But the polls so far show that either Cruz or Rubio is doing better against Hillary than Trump. Of course, things could change.
 
exnihilo said:
Fraud is defined by the dictionary as ‘deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, perpetrated for profit or to gain some unfair or dishonest advantage.’ And if Trump is guilty of fraud this disqualifies him from politics? Seems to me fraud is the craft of politicians.

Bush the first said ‘no new taxes’ and yet there were. Bush the second said he would have a humble foreign policy and not get into the nation building that Republicans objected to when Clinton did it. And yet he had a bellicose and nation building foreign policy.
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I’m no lover of Trump but if Hillary is the nominee and Trump is, any kind of mud she slings at him he will sling back. Both know each other and both seem to lie and speak half truths. But all of the candidates except Carson and Kasich are acting like bad boys in school, calling each other names instead of getting together and attacking Hillary and Sanders ideologies. We can’t win this way and if Trump wins the nomination, they should either support him or shut up. It is emotion that Trump is counting on. Sadly, people aren’t vetting their candidates and studying the issues.
 
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