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Peter_J said:
This morning I decided that all day I wouldn’t even say the T-word. Day’s not quite over yet, but already I’m feeling a lot happier. 🙂
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Good I quoted your post to make you happy today too. So here you are talking about the T-word again. Its a new day and you’ll feel even happier today we all hope. 👍

So you often frequent Trump threads to feel better? Now thats a phenom perhaps which could be attributed to his happy happy happy followers. 😉
 
bekalc said:
Look, I really think we need to stay with Trump and hopefully stay away from everyone. He is increasingly seen as racist by a lot of people.

And yes it’s fair.
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Its just as fair as Obama being seen as a racist right? Or would you say they are both opportunistic?
The Jeremiah Wright controversy gained national attention in the United States in March 2008 when ABC News, after reviewing dozens of U.S. Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s pastor Jeremiah Wright’s sermons,[1] excerpted parts which were subject to intense media scrutiny.[2][3] Wright is a retired senior pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago and former pastor of President Obama.[4] Obama denounced the statements in question, but critics continued to press the issue of his relationship with Wright. In response to this, he gave a speech titled “A More Perfect Union”, in which he sought to place Wright’s comments in a historical and sociological context. In the speech, Obama again denounced Wright’s remarks, but did not disown him as a person. The controversy began to fade, but was renewed in late April when Wright made a series of media appearances, including an interview on Bill Moyers Journal, a speech at the NAACP, and a speech at the National Press Club.[5] After the last of these, Obama spoke more forcefully against his former pastor, saying that he was “outraged” and “saddened” by his behavior, and in May he resigned his membership in the church
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I think these are simply opportunistic people. Politics you know. We shouldn’t fly off the handle unjustly accusing people of racism even if it might appear to be so like above.
Obama, “Had the reverend not retired, and had he not acknowledged that what he had said had deeply offended people and were inappropriate and mischaracterized what I believe is the greatness of this country, for all its flaws, then I wouldn’t have felt as comfortable staying at the church.”
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Trump is not a racist.

Sikhs and Muslims hold Rally in DC in support of Trump.

thegatewaypundit.com/2016/03/sikhs-and-muslims-hold-dc-rally-for-donald-trump/

“When he talks about Muslims, he does not talk about all Muslims or American Muslims. He spoke in the context of the refugee crisis that was happening in Syria. We (Sikhs) agree with him. Muslim (Americans) agree with him that we should not bring people into this country before we can vet them. And this was a temporary measures proposed by him,” Singh said.
 
Its just as fair as Obama being seen as a racist right? Or would you say they are both opportunistic?
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I didn’t realize you had little kids doing this because of things Obama said. Obama denounced his old Pastor.

Not to mention African Americans experienced horrible treatment from white America and yes still experience some racism. A Pastor especially one who grew up in civil rights having some resentment is different.

Than a white person going on national tv and saying he needs to research the KKK first. The racial divide also wasn’t a theme of Obama’s campaign.

Not to mention the words coming out of Donald’s mouth. I never saw Obama make fun of the disabled, make misogynist comments. Act like a bully

Plus I didn’t vote for Obama either. What I am saying is we shouldn’t vote for either one. And if you compare Hillary. She’s not making these kind of comments.

She has spoken about the fact that yes there are a lot of communities of blue collared white people that are left behind too and we need to be concerned about all Americans

I am leading to a vote for neither Hilary or Trump. .
 
bekalc said:
I didn’t realize you had little kids doing this because of things Obama said. Obama denounced his old Pastor.

Not to mention African Americans experienced horrible treatment from white America and yes still experience some racism. A Pastor especially one who grew up in civil rights having some resentment is different.

Than a white person going on national tv and saying he needs to research the KKK first. The racial divide also wasn’t a theme of Obama’s campaign.

Not to mention the words coming out of Donald’s mouth. I never saw Obama make fun of the disabled, make misogynist comments. Act like a bully
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What about when Obama said,** those who cling to their religion and their guns**…?

Or when he said, when you have a business, you didn’t build it!
 
bekalc said:
I didn’t realize you had little kids doing this because of things Obama said. Obama denounced his old Pastor.
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What little kids doing what? Trump denounced ties he never had. Obama continued the apparent racist ties he did have. If we are going to call people racist and insist I guess fair is fair.
Not to mention African Americans experienced horrible treatment from white America and yes still experience some racism.
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Thats a relevant statement I guess white people experience racism from blacks also. Or you don’t think thats a fair statement. Are you saying racism only exist among white people? Thats absurd. And certainly your not saying racism is justified because of 100s of years ago or even decades ago?
A Pastor especially one who grew up in civil rights having some resentment is different.
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Nonsense its justification of racism. Anyone can have resentment as anyone may be subject to racism as all are prejudice. And Obama following a racist certainly doesn’t make his actions more acceptable than Trumps.
Than a white person going on national tv and saying he needs to research the KKK first. The racial divide also wasn’t a theme of Obama’s campaign.
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Obama continued to follow a racist after he already knew he was a racist till public scrutiny caused his juggling and intellectual rationalization to amend his racist thinking.
Not to mention the words coming out of Donald’s mouth. I never saw Obama make fun of the disabled, make misogynist comments. Act like a bully
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Obama has continued to play the race card his entire Presidency and so has Clinton with their absurd take on its the white mans fault our penal system exists.

The craziest thing is you actually believe all this absurdity. I would insist if you do that if anyone is a racist its Obama. Or as I suggested we are talking simply opportunistic politics. Ugly as it may be. You know the real problem with the racist suggestion, ignorant people actually believe it and hate proceeds and radical thinking escalates.
 
So now the thread has been reduced to trying to justify fighting racism with racism. Great.:rolleyes:
 
_Abyssinia said:
This is outrageous! Donald Trump in multiple debates has violated rules:

money.cnn.com/2016/03/05/media/donald-trump-fox-debate-rules/
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I believe this had to do with Megan Kelly and Trump’s different take on Trump university’s BBB rating. Megan Kelly inserted herself into the debate saying the university got a D from BBB while Trump said they got A, and kelly said that was not readily available to the public. Then during the break Trump people sent a fax showing BBB did at one point give an A grade.
 
simple_soul said:
So now the thread has been reduced to trying to justify fighting racism with racism. Great.:rolleyes:
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No it’s showing hypocrisy from people who criticize a no-relation between Trump and KKK but ignore real racism when it’s found in somebody else.
 
queenofheartscv said:
I believe this had to do with Megan Kelly and Trump’s different take on Trump university’s BBB rating. Megan Kelly inserted herself into the debate saying the university got a D from BBB while Trump said they got A, and kelly said that was not readily available to the public. Then during the break Trump people sent a fax showing BBB did at one point give an A grade.
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Sorry, what does this have to do with what I posted? In multiple debates he has talked with his campaign manager backstage or even on stage, even though the rules don’t allow that!
 
_Abyssinia said:
This is outrageous! Donald Trump in multiple debates has violated rules:

money.cnn.com/2016/03/05/media/donald-trump-fox-debate-rules/
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this is an excerpt from what you posted.
Donald Trump consulted with his campaign manager during the first commercial break at Thursday night’s Republican debate, violating ground rules from Fox News stating that candidates would not be allowed to have contact with their campaigns, rival campaign sources told CNNMoney.
While that exchange was the clearest violation of debate rules to date, the sources said, it followed a pattern: At multiple debates, Trump has consulted with his campaign manager Corey Lewandowski backstage even though it was expressly forbidden by the networks.
Thursday night’s debate in Detroit marked a new extreme, however, as Lewandowski went directly onto the stage to meet with Trump during the commercial break. As in previous debates, Fox News had explicitly informed the campaigns that candidates were not allowed to communicate with their campaign staff during commercial breaks, the sources said.
When Lewandowski was asked by Fox News staff to leave the stage, he refused to do so, according to a source at Fox News.
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Incredible.
 
Yes.

Currently there are 3 class action lawsuits (2 in California, 1 in New York).

nationalreview.com/corner/432010/trump-university-scam

Just an excerpt:

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First thing first, Trump University was never a university. When the “school” was established in 2005, the New York State Education Department warned that it was in violation of state law for operating without a NYSED license. Trump ignored the warnings. (The institution is now called, ahem, “Trump Entrepreneur Initiative.”) Cue lawsuits.
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Read more at: nationalreview.com/corner/432010/trump-university-scam
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Basically, come to my “University” become wealthy, (But it really isn’t a University, there aren’t any professors, you won’t get a degree)
 
Vouthon said:
He’s a law unto himself.

And yet people want to make him the most powerful person on earth!?
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We can say the same thing about Ted Cruz, who cheated Ben Carson in Iowa and sent out fraudulent “Voter Violation” mailers.
 
queenofheartscv said:
The university received 98% approval rating from the students.

98percentapproval.com/
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Who runs this website?
Trump said that “98 percent of the people that took the courses … thought they were terrific.” That’s misleading. A class-action lawsuit against Trump alleges that the surveys were not anonymous and were filled out during or immediately after sessions when participants were still expecting to receive future benefits from the program.
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factcheck.org/2016/03/trumps-defense-of-his-university/
 
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