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Path_Finder said:
Robert Byrd and so on, also, Klan is historically linked to the Democratic Party.
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That was then, and this is now; save evidence of current ties and pandering to the white nationalist base, I must deem this line of attack frivolous.
 
Darryl_Revok said:
The Nation of Islam.

Not full blown white supremacists, but there would definitely be a fair proportion of sympathizers and other sundry parties conducive to the ultimately white supremacist tenor of the Trump campaign; what communists called “useful idiots” and “fellow travelers”.

The voters and the issues are indistinguishable in this case.
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As they say, many more blacks die through abortion than the Klan ever killed. What party has stood for both?
 
Darryl_Revok said:
The Nation of Islam.

Not full blown white supremacists, but there would definitely be a fair proportion of sympathizers and other sundry parties conducive to the ultimately white supremacist tenor of the Trump campaign; what communists called “useful idiots” and “fellow travelers”.

The voters and the issues are indistinguishable in this case.
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What about African American nationalists? What do you call them?
 
SuperLuigi said:
It’s the primary season.

The Democrats also have major issues. Were it not for the entitlements, that party would either have to break right or would be irrelevant nationally.
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The DNC is not being split apart by basic ideological differences and middle school-esque shouting matches.
 
An Open Letter to Super Tuesday Voters
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John Adams was right. “Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the governance of any other.” On Tuesday, you have an opportunity to demonstrate the character of the American people. In our nation’s most religious region — in the party where most of the Christian voters are concentrated — it is now up to you to demonstrate that your commitment to character and integrity and truth itself is more important to you than your rage and frustration. And that means rejecting Donald Trump.
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I began by quoting one Founding Father. Let me end by quoting another. Benjamin Franklin said, “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” Trump is running not for president of a constitutional republic but to be the strongman of a failing state. A virtuous people would stop him in his tracks. But are we a virtuous people? Tuesday will help tell the answer.
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Read more at: nationalreview.com/article/432097/donald-trump-super-tuesday-open-letter-voters
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I am not a big David French fan, but this is nicely done.
 
Darryl_Revok said:
I don’t think you understand what the terms “white nationalism” and “black nationalism” mean.
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You are equating white supremacists with nationalists who happen to be white. So what about nationalists who happen to be another color? What about colored people who want to see their country strong and defended? What do you call them?
 
Path_Finder said:
Robert Byrd and so on, also, Klan is historically linked to the Democratic Party.

Last I saw, President Obama is half white. :rolleyes:
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Historically, racists haven’t cared if you’re half white or three quarters white. To them, you’re still black:
The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan-African ancestry (“one drop” of black blood)[1][2] is considered to be black (Negro in historical terms). This concept evolved over the course of the 19th century and became codified into law in the 20th century.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule
 
Darryl_Revok said:
That was then, and this is now; save evidence of current ties and pandering to the white nationalist base, I must deem this line of attack frivolous.
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One can look around, I don’t see what the Democratic Party is doing for black America. Chicago? Detroit? Baltimore? St. Louis?
 
gracepoole said:
The DNC is not being split apart by basic ideological differences and middle school-esque shouting matches.
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Sure it is!

Bill Clinton was on stage yelling at marines.

Just how many Orthodox Jews, Muslims, and Black Christians and immigrants are down with so-called gay “marriage”?

Some DNC groups oppose that in greater % than some republican groups do!

And how about the environment? Think blue collar workers and farmers are happy to be making less or no money while some of the Democrats appease radical environmentalists?
 
queenofheartscv said:
You are equating white supremacists with nationalists who happen to be white. So what about nationalists who happen to be another color? What about colored people who want to see their country strong and defended? What do you call them?
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There’s a difference between nationalists who are caucasian and white nationalists. The term white nationalist is not misleading; they literally want a white nation.

I advise you to read this book. It’s cheap as far as Kindle books go; take it in, look at the current political climate, and tremble.
 
Darryl_Revok said:
There’s a difference between nationalists who are caucasian and white nationalists. The term white nationalist is not misleading; they literally want a white nation.

I advise you to read this book. It’s cheap as far as Kindle books go; take it in, look at the current political climate, and tremble.
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What proof do you have that these people want only a white nation? These would have moved out of the country hundreds of years ago.

That’s not how you define a nationalist. Here is a definition from dictionary.com.

Nationalism: The strong belief that the interests of a particular nation-state are of primary importance. Also, the belief that a people who share a common language, history, and culture should constitute an independent nation, free of foreign domination.

How does nationalism make a person racist?

You can absolutely say that Trump’s movement is a nationalist one. But to equate that with racism or even to insinuate that is an insult to a lot of voters, many of which are colored people who simply want to see their country strong again.
 
SuperLuigi said:
Sure it is!

Bill Clinton was on stage yelling at marines.
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HRC and Sanders aren’t arguing in and after debates about how the other sweats. That’s the sort of thing I’d call “middle school-esque.”
SuperLuigi said:
Just how many Orthodox Jews, Muslims, and Black Christians and immigrants are down with so-called gay “marriage”?
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The majority of Democrats report being pro-same-sex marriage. There are always outliers in either of the two major parties. The question is whether both parties are being torn apart by basic ideological differences.
 
Per letting in all kinds of persons from other countries, we already allow in a million or so immigrants a year, this administration appears to not like some people as well; then, abortion kills minorities at a greater rate and foreign policy is a mess. Talking Trump down is just more fear-mongering that is going on seeing how the DNC is running someone that likely, could be indicted.
 
Alberto Gonzales, Clarence Thomas, many Democratic politicians have sought to block minority nominees.
 
To suggest that a country about to vote in Donald Trump is a racist country is very shocking to me. I’m an immigrant and I’ve never for once encountered any racism against me. Nothing but kindness. America is the one country that no matter who you are will welcome you and help you succeed. I agree trump voters are nationalists but they are not racists.
 
Al Sharpton reportedly incited a prejudiced-based riot at Freddy’s Fashion Mart where someone was reportedly killed, oh, yes, and Sharpton is a friend of Obama and has his show on MSNBC.:rolleyes:
 
queenofheartscv said:
What proof do you have that these people want only a white nation? These would have moved out of the country hundreds of years ago.
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Well, they tried to form a country based on absolute white political power within the United States, but that didn’t pan out.
You can absolutely say that Trump’s movement is a nationalist one. But to equate that with racism or even to insinuate that is an insult to a lot of voters, many of which are colored people who simply want to see their country strong again.
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  1. You’re either being willfully obtuse, or you genuinely do not understand what the term “white nationalist” means or who its standard bearers are. Such a level of misunderstanding does little credit to your candidate or your cause.
  2. Frankly, if the comparison of “white nationalism” to racism is an insult, I don’t particularly care. The truth is often unpleasant.
 
Darryl_Revok said:
Well, they tried to form a country based on absolute white political power within the United States, but that didn’t pan out.
  1. You’re either being willfully obtuse, or you genuinely do not understand what the term “white nationalist” means or who its standard bearers are. Such a level misunderstanding does little credit to your candidate or your cause.
  2. Frankly, if the comparison of “white nationalism” to racism is an insult, I don’t particularly care. The truth is often unpleasant.
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I don’t care how you define “white nationalists.” How do you prove that the country, particularly Trump supporters fit your label? How do you prove that Trump supporters want a country filled with only whites?
 
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