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I would–shows some guts.
Does it? No harm came to him, and none could come to him for doing that, other than perhaps having a full bladder longer than he would have preferred.

I realize people who have never been in business don’t appreciate the risks people in business take constantly, or the very real stress that goes with them. People criticize Trump for filing Chapter 11 on some casinos, but I can guarantee there was many a sleepless night before that became the decision.
 
The establishment’s dislike for Cruz is very different than it is for Trump.

The establishment is afraid Trump to destroy American foreign policy.

I think they just don’t like Cruz because he bucks the system.
How would working to reduce our trade deficits destroy foreign policy? The current practices are sucking the life out of the American economy - Trade needs some balance. And don’t forget any legislative action obviously is controlled by Congress (compromise built in).

I find Trump a safer bet since he is practical, he won’t push for action solely on principle. Cruz is likely to be much more stubborn on policy in his role as executive
 
I would–shows some guts.
I’m not sure that guts would be the right word to describe that. Was the room really empty? I am sure there were a few people there. With that in mind, maybe sincerity and hope and belief and respect for those who did show up.
Anyway, a whole new door of admiration just opened up with me for him.
 
Cruz’s protest was against the Senate Rules change when it comes to a filibuster.

OH, he said it was about Obama care, but in actuality he was protesting the rule change which now mandates that a senator who uses the filibuster, must do so on the Senate Floor and defend his position.

Before, he could’ve just called the Senate Chair Person and it was often hidden from the public view.

Jim
 
I guess that’s why I don’t consider Trump as conservative or liberal.
He seems to play both sides to get what he wants.
Sometimes Reagan did too. We are nearing the end of eight years of acrimony, executive overreach, and demands that the Repubs were often too afraid to challenge. Possibly an end to that would be a good thing. Conservatives are not going to get everything they want, no matter what, and anybody who tells them they will is either a liar or a fool.
 
the GOP are delusional–like they were with romney–if they think count chocula or rubio could defeat hillary. trump is probably the best chance they got taking back the White house.
I don’t like Trump or Romney, but I also don’t like anyone who breaks the law and sacrifices our Nations security by putting a server in her closet with no security, hosting data that goes beyond top security in sensitivity. Such is the arrogance of the far left or right. I hope the Grand Jury that the director of the FBI convened today to possibly seek an indictment strikes oil.
 
How would working to reduce our trade deficits destroy foreign policy? The current practices are sucking the life out of the American economy - Trade needs some balance. And don’t forget any legislative action obviously is controlled by Congress (compromise built in).

I find Trump a safer bet since he is practical, he won’t push for action solely on principle. Cruz is likely to be much more stubborn on policy in his role as executive
Because they say that Trump is essentially an isolationist candidate.
 
He’d run as an independent if he wins the delegates, but they fail to nominate him at a brokered GOP convention.

He would take votes from the GOP nominee in a GE.

He wouldn’t be spending millions of his own money if he didn’t want to be president.

His ego won’t let him quit.

Jim
He would quit if he has a good way out.
 
The GOP establishment/leaders would rather have Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump at this point. Believe it or not, that is understandable.

Hillary Clinton is actually pretty conservative on the non-social issues, which are issues that Trump himself may not even be conservative on. I don’t really buy him as being pro-life or anti-gay marriage or any of that really. I’m gonna wait for the general debates before deciding on who to vote for if it is those between those two.
You are spot on. The truth is that the difference between Washington Democrats and Republicans is non-existent. It really boils down to the social issues that are very important to true conservatives - homosexual relationships and abortion - but are only talking points that Republicans in DC use to distinguish themselves from Democrats in an attempt to rally the Christian base.

I promise you that you can count the number of power players in Washington (in both parties) who don’t accept and support homosexual marriage and abortion on one (okay, maybe two) hand(s). Frankly, the social issues are one of the things that is tearing the Republicans apart. You can’t claim to be small government and have government all slung up in people’s personal relationships and women’s uteri.

And you are correct. Hillary is very moderate. That’s why she’ll win the Democratic nomination (and then the Presidency) over Bernie.
 
Because they say that Trump is essentially an isolationist candidate.
Yes, they say that but I don’t see it supported.

Trump wants to pressure regional powers to step up and play a bigger role in their regional issues. China needs to put a leash on North Korea and countries in the ME need to step up in resolving the Syria crisis. This sounds appropriate to me, we’ve already shown we don’t have the influence to get the desired results (not by ourselves).
 
The GOP establishment/leaders would rather have Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump at this point. Believe it or not, that is understandable.
That’s what Nate Silver concluded in his column from last week:
But there are certainly some movement conservatives, and they have outsized influence on social media, talk radio, television and in other arenas of political discourse. And if you are a movement conservative, Trump is arguably a pretty terrible choice, taking your conservative party and remaking it in his unpredictable medley of nationalism, populism and big-government Trumpism.
If you’re one of these ideological conservatives, it may even be in your best interest for Trump to lose in November. If Trump loses, especially by a wide margin, his brand of politics will probably be discredited, or his nomination might look like a strange, one-off “black swan” that you’ll be better equipped to prevent the next time around. You’ll have an opportunity to get your party back in 2020, and your nominee might stand a pretty decent chance against Clinton, who could be elected despite being quite unpopular because Trump is even less popular and who would be aiming for the Democratic Party’s fourth straight term in office.
But if Trump wins in November, you might as well relocate the Republican National Committee’s headquarters to Trump Tower. The realignment of the Republican Party will be underway, and you’ll have been left out of it.
fivethirtyeight.com/features/dont-assume-conservatives-will-rally-behind-trump/
 
Yes, they say that but I don’t see it supported.

Trump wants to pressure regional powers to step up and play a bigger role in their regional issues. China needs to put a leash on North Korea and countries in the ME need to step up in resolving the Syria crisis. This sounds appropriate to me, we’ve already shown we don’t have the influence to get the desired results (not by ourselves).
This, again, speaks to temperament.
 
Sorry to say it, but it’s already “them against us”. It’s like the Islamic Radical vs West war that only the radicals admit is going on. The hard left has been at war against ordinary Americans for decades, and now, on the cusp of a major victory on their part, we really ought to accept that there has been a war all along.

And not just against the majority of the populace, there has been a war against the Catholic Church going on for nearly eight years now. They’ll probably have to rename “Stockholm Syndrome” and call it “American Catholic Syndrome” from now on.
I guess there are different “Them” and Us". Trump will put America against the rest of the world. Although, his many business interests around the world will certainly have priority. If we want to see the future with him, look at his past and present.
 
Why should the front runner quit?
I think you missed what we were talking about. If there is a brokered convention and Trump does not get the nomination, some think he will start an independent run. I don’t think he would do that.
 
Romney said Trump knew nothing about trade and his economic policy would stink, right?

Check out what he said in 2012: (video less than 1 minute long)

“On day 1 I’ll label China a currency manipulator, which will allow me to…put in tariffs…”

youtube.com/watch?v=eur8rYBotxg

HYPOCRISY much???
 
I think you missed what we were talking about. If there is a brokered convention and Trump does not get the nomination, some think he will start an independent run. I don’t think he would do that.
Only if it is too late to file in individual states which I think would be the case. Perrot, the Libertarians all have had their paperwork done per individual states.
 
This is what Trump said back when Harry Reid accused Romney of not having paid taxes for 10 years on the senate floor, with no proof whatsoever.

**Read this and see how Trump defended Romney. ** Even went so far as to say, "his (Romney’s) tax returns are perfect."

People’s characters are often caught when they least expect it. Romney in attacking Trump has shown he truly is not so noble.

breitbart.com/video/2016/02/24/trump-defended-romney-when-reid-attacked-on-taxes/

Trump on Fox News:

"I think it’s a very strong statement that Harry made,” Trump said. “And I’ve known Harry and I like Harry. But I think it’s a statement that he probably wished he didn’t make. I don’t think there was a source. A lot of people don’t think there was a source. If there was a source, it’s probably not allowed and it’s probably not even legal.

“So he made a statement,” Trump continued. “It was a very strong statement. I think that, frankly, and you — I’ve said it many times and I’ll continue to say it, that what Governor Romney should do, in my opinion — and he’s a very different person and he’s got a different attitude, and I understand that – – is say, I will give my tax returns if you open up your records because as you know, President Obama spent over $4 million trying to hide so many different things from his past, whether it’s college applications, college records, passport records. And you know, nobody brings this up. Nobody says, ‘Open up your passport records. Open up your college applications. Open up your college records. Let’s see your life.’ And nobody brings this up. By the way, most presidents have given their college records. All presidents have given, to the best of my knowledge, their passport records. So why is he spending $4 million on trying to keep them secret? So I would say, I will open up my tax returns — and his tax returns are perfect. But I would open up my tax returns, but we want to see your records. I think they should place the shoe on the other foot. And I would think that you would probably not hear any more talk, frankly, about the tax returns, which are 100 percent according to Hoyle.”
 
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