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LeafByNiggle said:
No matter how you spin it, dishonest is dishonest. That is no speculation on Romney’s part. Romney got it right. Why won’t you give him credit for that?
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Talking about somebody’s tax is no speculation? And criticizing Trump’s talk about tariff while he said exactly the same thing in 2012?
 
irishpatrick said:
I think you missed what we were talking about. If there is a brokered convention and Trump does not get the nomination, some think he will start an independent run. I don’t think he would do that.
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Trump would seek revenge by running as an independent and taking votes away from the GOP nominee.

Jim
 
Cider said:
I don’t believe that. He’s a complete failure as a candidate as the last two election cycles prove. There is zero reason to think the GOP would put in a two time loser.
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Nixon as Vice President lost in 1960 for US president.

He got the nomination again in 64 and won.

Can it happen? Of course it happen.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Trump would seek revenge by running as an independent and taking votes away from the GOP nominee.

Jim
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I totally agree. Republicans can’t blame Obama or the democrats.

When the democrats got a beat down in 96, they mediated with republicans to get stuff done.

In 2002-2004, democrats lost a lot of seats. Including the majority leader in the senate. Democrats whether we like their beliefs or not, stood together and worked from the ground up.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Sure it is, and Romney said so too.

That is your interpretation that he said exactly the same thing.

But you really can’t defend Trump’s lie about thousands of Muslims.
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Or what he said about McCain.

Or what he said about dr. Carson faith.

List is too long
 
I used to be a Howard Stern fan, stopped listening when he moved to satellite but Trump was a frequent guest. He was never quite as crude as Howard but went alongwith the gags, making disparaging remarks about women, bragging on his sex life &c. I wonder why no one has brought this out?
 
chero23 said:
Nixon as Vice President lost in 1960 for US president.

He got the nomination again in 64 and won.

Can it happen? Of course it happen.
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You’re talking about Nixon, quite a complex and strange individual, with tremendous drive and ambition. Romney’s personality is not at all like that.
 
A “debate” like tonight just refueled my reason, as to why I left the Republican party two years ago.
 
This was an interesting response from Trump, especially considering that people here in CAF are always accusing Obama of not following the law:
Trump was questioned about how the military could follow his potentially extra-legal orders to, for example, kill the family of a suspected terrorist. “They’ll do as I tell them,” Trump said.
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theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/mar/03/republican-presidential-debate-trump-rubio-cruz-fox-news-detroit-live

And why would it be acceptable to kill a terrorist’s family, say his wife and children?
 
Thorolfr said:
And why would it be acceptable to kill a terrorist’s family, say his wife and children?
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I thought he was talking about the case where the terrorist’s family had aided and abetted the murderous actions of a terrorist.
 
GaryTaylor said:
And their stupidity could very easily cost them “another” election. Thats how foolish their arrogance is and while undermining anyone who doesn’t agree with them like Trump and Cruz who together won 10 of 11 states. You can’t make this up, Cruz is the only one who has a chance. The idea for sure isn’t Cruz its a brokered convention and thats nothing to do with “we the people”.
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Perhaps. But Cruz didn’t do so well in Vermont or Mass. Rubio did better in the South than Cruz did. The states that were favorable to Cruz are leaving soon. I am not convinced Cruz can win Illinois or Ohio.

Here’s the thing too I also feel Cruz would make a bad President. He keeps on saying I will never compromise or Make Deals. Well guess what that is kind of what you have to do if your President. That’s one thing I give Trump credit for saying. Your not going to get everything you want.

The fact that Cruz keeps on screaming about never compromising has me concerned that he would make a terrible President. But then maybe the voters if they pick him need to learn the consquences of that.

As for Trump, I frankly think he would be horrible. The race baiting is eek.

Here’s the thing the establishment has no credibility with the American people. So they aren’t willing to listen to what is even good advise.

It would help if maybe the establishment looked at their policies and did some updating. They have been all about no and protesting and low on usefulness and ideas.

They have contributed to the anti establishment stuff by praying striking up partisanship and promising things they cannot deliver.

For example, Obama Care was not going without a super majority in Congress. So why are you telling folks it can go if you elect them? And if Obama Care is so evil, why are nominating it’s architect Romney?

(I have issues with a lot about Obama Care, but I do feel for the President when he says-Obama Care is based on Conservative ideas. Because it was. They were for it before they were against it and once a Democratic President took the idea… Well…The intellectual dishonesty.
 
Cruz won Oklahoma and Texas, sure, home state.

But let’s remember, Cruz has won the closed primaries, only Republicans voting.

Trump has won the open primaries.

Rubio has cancelled an appearance in Louisiana, sounds like he may be doing the same in Kentucky as well.
 
bekalc said:
Perhaps. But Cruz didn’t do so well in Vermont or Mass. Rubio did better in the South than Cruz did. The states that were favorable to Cruz are leaving soon. I am not convinced Cruz can win Illinois or Ohio.

Here’s the thing too I also feel Cruz would make a bad President. He keeps on saying I will never compromise or Make Deals. Well guess what that is kind of what you have to do if your President. That’s one thing I give Trump credit for saying. Your not going to get everything you want.

The fact that Cruz keeps on screaming about never compromising has me concerned that he would make a terrible President. But then maybe the voters if they pick him need to learn the consquences of that.

As for Trump, I frankly think he would be horrible. The race baiting is eek.

Here’s the thing the establishment has no credibility with the American people. So they aren’t willing to listen to what is even good advise.

It would help if maybe the establishment looked at their policies and did some updating. They have been all about no and protesting and low on usefulness and ideas.

They have contributed to the anti establishment stuff by praying striking up partisanship and promising things they cannot deliver.

For example, Obama Care was not going without a super majority in Congress. So why are you telling folks it can go if you elect them? And if Obama Care is so evil, why are nominating it’s architect Romney?

(I have issues with a lot about Obama Care, but I do feel for the President when he says-Obama Care is based on Conservative ideas. Because it was. They were for it before they were against it and once a Democratic President took the idea… Well…The intellectual dishonesty.
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I’d never vote for Obama and Hillary and this genocide in the United States the DNC stands for, abortion.

Basically, no good can come from these individuals, having such a vacant morality, more like everything they touch turns to dust.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
No matter how you spin it, dishonest is dishonest. That is no speculation on Romney’s part. Romney got it right. Why won’t you give him credit for that?
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I agree with you, and I applaud Romney for speaking out. No one can make people acknowledge the lies Trump tells, but someone can at least lay them out there for closer inspection. Romney did that.
 
Path_Finder said:
I’d never vote for Obama and Hillary and this genocide in the United States the DNC stands for, abortion.

Basically, no good can come from these individuals, having such a vacant morality, more like everything they touch turns to dust.
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In the case of Obama and the Clintons, it’s turned to gold, as in $$$, at least for them. Not for us, but for them and their friends.
 
rickdoh1946 said:
Romney like the other republicans and some democrats are only now joining the fight against Trump. Trump roared in on his glib tongue criticizing everyone and everything in sight, spurting rhetoric to cover all relevant positions and American values. No one figured him out till now when it may be too late to do anything about it. Either Trump or his handlers took advantage of the American nievate to attract people who want change but he will be the same as all politicians before him and probably after him. Politicians promise things they have no chance of delivering. They must deal with the congress and senate to get things done but he has already turned them off. Sorry No Wall this time.
God bless America and I:confused: pray for deliverence for mankind.
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Well said. Welcome to the forum.
 
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