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Actually you do – at least regarding murdering terrorists’ family members. Or…do you want a president who instructs our military to engage in war crimes??
I don’t know what the rules are per say. But I understand the logic of what trump is saying and agree wih it. This is war when you are dealing with terrorists. If family members know what’s going on they are not merely innocent citizens.

I’m not sure what can be done in real life. But theoretically i agree with trump.
 
Do you know ?

I know Catholic hospitals had to sell or be closed during the Clinton years, because they refused to offer abortions. The Clinton’s stopped reimbursement of medicare and medicaid services to hospitals which did not offer abortion services.

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Right, thats what happened here with Yale tajing them over, probably where your are also. Further this doesn’t help…

npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/12/458750280/connecticut-governor-targets-hospital-funds-to-close-budget-gap
 
Well I agree “somewhat” still these conservatives are bound by basic principles and the moving goal post really needs to be stationary. Such are abortion, pro-life.pro-birth, religious freedom and and constitution and bill of rights. Problem is a good deal of this he is working out in his head as he goes along. 🙂
If you don’t know where you stand on the issues, why are you running for President. It is a serious job. We don’t need someone who is learning on the job.

I think this is a naked grab for power.

I cannot believe the voters are frankly this obtuse. I know people who are voting for him because he is entertaining!

And not to mention he was saying follow me or else. The fact that his first impulse is to kill women and children…

As for Romney also looking for power. Okay but the difference we the voters have an actual idea what Romney would do when he is in power since Romney had a track record.
 
I don’t know what the rules are per say. But I understand the logic of what trump is saying and agree wih it. This is war when you are dealing with terrorists. If family members know what’s going on they are not merely innocent citizens.

I’m not sure what can be done in real life. But theoretically i agree with trump.
Then theoretically, you agree with a war crime. And I should hope that it would be clear to any Catholic how immoral the murdering of an enemy’s family is.
 
If you don’t know where you stand on the issues, why are you running for President. It is a serious job. We don’t need someone who is learning on the job.

I think this is a naked grab for power.

I cannot believe the voters are frankly this obtuse. I know people who are voting for him because he is entertaining!

And not to mention he was saying follow me or else. The fact that his first impulse is to kill women and children…

As for Romney also looking for power. Okay but the difference we the voters have an actual idea what Romney would do when he is in power since Romney had a track record.
Details have to be hammered out. I look at the candidates to see if they are trustworthy, if they have common sense, if they have leadership skills, if they understand the problems we face. Details on issues no one can stay permanently fixed.
 
Then theoretically, you agree with a war crime. And I should hope that it would be clear to any Catholic how immoral the murdering of an enemy’s family is.
I’m saying you do what needs to be done to keep the country safe. When terrorists and their family are involved in trying to kill our families, they are all terrorists. They all have to face the consequence. Not saying they have to be killed.
 
I don’t know what the rules are per say. But I understand the logic of what trump is saying and agree wih it. This is war when you are dealing with terrorists. If family members know what’s going on they are not merely innocent citizens.

I’m not sure what can be done in real life. But theoretically i agree with trump.
He amended his stance today but again. You can’t kill innocent people. I have heard career veterans and judges attempt to make this case and simply put it is bs. I understand the hate and revenge. You would become the animal your attempting to contain. I’m sorry its unacceptable and at least I give him credit for thinking it through and amending his stance.
 
I’m saying you do what needs to be done to keep the country safe. When terrorists and their family are involved in trying to kill our families, they are all terrorists. They all have to face the consequence. Not saying they have to be killed.
There are rules of warfare and this sort of thing is the reason for them. Being at war doesn’t mean a free-for-all. Violating the international treaties to which the US agreed would be disastrous – diplomatically and morally.
 
He amended his stance today but again. You can’t kill innocent people. I have heard career veterans and judges attempt to make this case and simply put it is bs. I understand the hate and revenge. You would become the animal your attempting to contain. I’m sorry its unacceptable and at least I give him credit for thinking it through and amending his stance.
I assume someone in his camp must have spoken to him about how unwise it was advocate for this sort of thing.
 
There are rules of warfare and this sort of thing is the reason for them. Being at war doesn’t mean a free-for-all. Violating the international treaties to which the US agreed would be disastrous – diplomatically and morally.
Again, I can accept what you are saying. I can also accept what trump has expressed. In reality what he is able to do may very well be subject to rules, which is what he said today. That’s all fine. I’m only saying I can see where he’s coming from. I don’t think people should automatically label him as a monstrous dangerous war criminal simply because he stated an honest opinion.
 
Again, I can accept what you are saying. I can also accept what trump has expressed. In reality what he is able to do may very well be subject to rules, which is what he said today. That’s all fine. I’m only saying I can see where he’s coming from. I don’t think people should automatically label him as a monstrous dangerous war criminal simply because he stated an honest opinion.
If anything, I think it was just an incredibly stupid thing for him to say. But it should perhaps give one pause that he’s comfortable (or was – tough to know what his reality is from moment to moment) with committing a war crime.
 
If you don’t know where you stand on the issues, why are you running for President. It is a serious job. We don’t need someone who is learning on the job.
I think we have to admit they all revise their stance. Trump as I suggest is a bit more illusive and indecisive. They all learn on the job.
I think this is a naked grab for power.
We would be back to assuming someone is acting in Americas best interest unselfishly but not their own. I don’t believe it.
I cannot believe the voters are frankly this obtuse. I know people who are voting for him because he is entertaining!
They have many reasons and many are simply concerned about the country and believe Trump is the best negotiator. They may be right.
And not to mention he was saying follow me or else. The fact that his first impulse is to kill women and children…
As I said I don’t find this uncommon with very educated people.
As for Romney also looking for power. Okay but the difference we the voters have an actual idea what Romney would do when he is in power since Romney had a track record.
Many of these people reject that and see it as much of the same nothing.
 
If anything, I think it was just an incredibly stupid thing for him to say. But it should perhaps give one pause that he’s comfortable (or was – tough to know what his reality is from moment to moment) with committing a war crime.
I don’t think that makes him stupid. It makes him human, real. In fact that’s the biggest difference between trump and the others. He talks like a normal person. He’s not afraid to have an opinion and not afraid to modify it if confronted with reality. The others have their canned speeches. They never admit it when their stances change. They prevaricate and hide what they really think. I prefer trumps honesty.
 
I don’t think that makes him stupid. It makes him human, real. In fact that’s the biggest difference between trump and the others. He talks like a normal person. He’s not afraid to have an opinion and not afraid to modify it if confronted with reality. The others have their canned speeches. They never admit it when their stances change. They prevaricate and hide what they really think. I prefer trumps honesty.
In this, I disagree, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, in this regard, they know the law. I am not going to call anyone stupid in this matter, but we are all uninformed at times of the facts.
 
I don’t think that makes him stupid.
I didn’t say it made him stupid – I said it was a stupid thing to say. Smart people say stupid things, too.
He talks like a normal person. He’s not afraid to have an opinion and not afraid to modify it if confronted with reality. The others have their canned speeches. They never admit it when their stances change. They prevaricate and hide what they really think. I prefer trumps honesty.
But just because someone is honest and direct doesn’t mean he is right or has good ideas.
 
Let’s see if the media will ever ask Ted Cruz to disavow Glenn beck. The two of them are quite close, much closer than trump and David duke.

So it’s a good thing trump skipped CPAC. He would have been in the same room as beck.
Senator Cruz should be asked to disavow Glenn Beck. Absolutely. That type of talk has no place in politics, period.
 
Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, in this regard, they know the law.
Kasich is ignorant of the law regarding the qualifications of running for vice-president. Kasich claims that a Russian citizen can run for vice president of the USA.
 
Let’s see if the media will ever ask Ted Cruz to disavow Glenn beck.
Just speaking for myself, I’m prepared – right here and now – to disavow Glenn Beck for what he said.

Are you prepared to disavow Donald Trump for the things that he has said?
 
Are you prepared to disavow Donald Trump for the things that he has said?
Actually, in light of the things Hillary, Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Trump have said, Americans should disavow all of them, but they won’t. Americans like to be entertained by a circus and don’t want to be distracted by a serious discussion of the issues.
 
Then theoretically, you agree with a war crime. And I should hope that it would be clear to any Catholic how immoral the murdering of an enemy’s family is.
I thought he was using hyperbole to express his feelings on the matter, not making explicit death threats.

I wouldn’t expect him to do any less than presidents already do to enemies etal, they put them under a microscope throw the book at them. A couple off the cuff examples:
  • The Benghazi video guy ended up in jail on unrelated charges.
  • The guy who jacked up his generic drug price is suddenly charged with other offenses
  • IRS audits are a favorite
 
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