Trump v GOP

[GaryTaylor]

What’s nonsensical is your continued dodging and evading the obvious:

Donald Trump Praises Planned Parenthood Again, Attacks “So-Called Conservatives” Who Disagree
lifenews.com/2016/03/01/donald-trump-praises-planned-parenthood-again-attacks-so-called-conservatives-who-disagree/

Perhaps you can articulate, with facts, how Trump has criticized PP since you seem to believe he hasn’t “praised” them? Facts, please - not emotions.

Again you have logical fallacy. Nothing but emotion.

I already addressed this he doesn’t “praise” abortion any where. And as I clearly stated his position and meandering is evolving and rightfully so. Lets be clear your issue is you would like to believe some lunacy of fiction about this guy with a emotional “WOW” conversation. Im much too cynical and grounded in factual reality for that aside from conspiracy theories about Trump. I believe he has a genuine concern and is a genuine conservative looking to address the conservative issues and the only one here, namely “abortion”. I think we have admit “banning” abortion" all-together is fiction and has never happened as all the good good talk was in fact nonsense. No reason to believe it today either. But the killing could be mitigated. Now if you don’t have a point please move on.

Trump said he would not fund Planned Parenthood “as long as you have the abortion going on,” but noted the “millions of people — and I’ve had thousands of letters from women — that have been helped.”

“I am pro-life, I am totally against abortion having to do with Planned Parenthood, but millions and millions of women, [with] cervical cancer, breast cancer, are helped by Planned Parenthood,”

Again its a logical fallacy and pure nonsense as he hasn’t “praised” abortion anywhere nor in the very article you posted.

 

[randomuser]

Again you have logical fallacy. Nothing but emotion.

I already addressed this he doesn’t “praise” abortion any where. And as I clearly stated his position and meandering is evolving and rightfully so. Lets be clear your issue is you would like to believe some lunacy of fiction about this guy with a emotional “WOW” conversation. Im much too cynical and grounded in factual reality for that aside from conspiracy theories about Trump. I believe he has a genuine concern and is a genuine conservative looking to address the conservative issues and the only one here, namely “abortion”. I think we have admit “banning” abortion" all-together is fiction and has never happened as all the good good talk was in fact nonsense. No reason to believe it today either. But the killing could be mitigated. Now if you don’t have a point please move on.

Again its a logical fallacy and pure nonsense as he hasn’t “praised” abortion anywhere nor in the very article you posted.

In message #1399, you state:
“Your point is moot as no-one “praised” PP.”
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13725766&postcount=1399

This is your quote - “Your point is moot as no-one “praised” PP.” (Message #1399)

In message #1402, I demonstrate with facts that he did praise PP.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13725820&postcount=1402

You are correct that he has never praised abortion, but that’s not what I stated. What I stated, and which you continue to dodge and evade even when presented with facts, is that he DID praise Planned Parenthood, which is atypical for someone claiming to be “pro-life.”

Straw man, much?

 

[GaryTaylor]

In message #1399, you state:
“Your point is moot as no-one “praised” PP.”
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13725766&postcount=1399

This is your quote - “Your point is moot as no-one “praised” PP.” (Message #1399)

In message #1402, I demonstrate with facts that he did praise PP.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=13725820&postcount=1402

You are correct that he has never praised abortion, but that’s not what I stated. What I stated, and which you continue to dodge and evade even when presented with facts, is that he DID praise Planned Parenthood, which is atypical for someone claiming to be “pro-life.”

Straw man, much?

Your point is a straw man. Your so predictable. As the Church never stated they were against “Planned Parenthood” specifically without recourse to abortion, but they are indeed against abortion. Further your accusations are unfounded and as absurd as you non existing argument. But thanks for sharing. Btw I would be careful questioning my faith as your way out of line now. How about you make a point instead of presenting more logical fallacies.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Brother of late civil rights activist endorses Trump:

nypost.com/2016/03/05/brother-of-late-civil-rights-activist-medgar-evers-endorses-trump/

“I think he’s the best one right now,” Evers, 93, told The Post. “He’s someone like me: he speaks from the hip. He’s not a politician.”

Evers said the Mississippi economy would benefit from a president who could bring back industries that have fled overseas.

“We need more and more jobs. Unemployment is way up here,” he said. “He’s hired more employees, more people, than anyone I know in the world.”

Evers also tried to dispel notions that the real-estate mogul is a bigot.

“I see nothing to show he is a racist,” Evers said. “I don’t want any party to assume they’ve got all the black vote.”

**There was an analysis from last night’s votes that more african americans are voting for Trump than Cruz. Many african americans do not believe trump is racist or a bigot. **

 

[gracepoole]

Brother of late civil rights activist endorses Trump:

nypost.com/2016/03/05/brother-of-late-civil-rights-activist-medgar-evers-endorses-trump/

“I think he’s the best one right now,” Evers, 93, told The Post. “He’s someone like me: he speaks from the hip. He’s not a politician.”

Evers said the Mississippi economy would benefit from a president who could bring back industries that have fled overseas.

“We need more and more jobs. Unemployment is way up here,” he said. “He’s hired more employees, more people, than anyone I know in the world.”

Evers also tried to dispel notions that the real-estate mogul is a bigot.

“I see nothing to show he is a racist,” Evers said. “I don’t want any party to assume they’ve got all the black vote.”

**There was an analysis from last night’s votes that more african americans are voting for Trump than Cruz. Many african americans do not believe trump is racist or a bigot. **

Anne Frank’s Stepsister: ‘Donald Trump Is Acting Like Hitler’

 

[queenofheartscv]

Trump wasn’t convicted of any wrongdoing in the case you mentioned.

Following link: trump insists on including Jews and blacks at Palm beach golf club in the 90s.

m.yourhoustonnews.com/ranch/opinion/trump-insisted-on-including-jews-blacks-at-palm-beach-golf/article_a722c823-25ee-5c99-887d-2ba5dcd9eab1.html?mode=jqm

 

[queenofheartscv]

I guess he’s got nothing to do with those gorgeous buildings, golf courses under his name. I get you don’t like trump, but your post has nothing of value.

 

[Path_Finder]

I guess he’s got nothing to do with those gorgeous buildings, golf courses under his name. I get you don’t like trump, but your post has nothing of value.

As long as it is a Western nation; it is okay to criticize. If it is some Eastern European nation building walls or not allowing in immigrants, we may well not hear the same criticism.

 

[GaryTaylor]

As long as it is a Western nation; it is okay to criticize. If it is some Eastern European nation building walls or not allowing in immigrants, we may well not hear the same criticism.

Thats the trappings of being an advanced society and much more ecumenical, we have to be an example of polite, be that as it may be.

 

[TMC]

Yes please do not repeat that point any longer. Everybody knows what you are saying and what Trump has said.

Why? Seems like an important point to me. Trump was radically pro-choice until sometime in his 60s - left of both Hillary and Sanders on the issue. He is still a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. For decades I have been hearing Catholics say both of those positions were automatic disqualifiers, now they don’t matter. Frankly, I never agreed with the single issue, knee-jerk position of some Catholics, but I don’t get why those people would now drop that position to go with Trump.

 

[Vouthon]

Why? Seems like an important point to me. Trump was radically pro-choice until sometime in his 60s - left of both Hillary and Sanders on the issue. He is still a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. For decades I have been hearing Catholics say both of those positions were automatic disqualifiers, now they don’t matter. Frankly, I never agreed with the single issue, knee-jerk position of some Catholics, but I don’t get why those people would now drop that position to go with Trump.

Nor do I. It lacks sense.

Especially when the GOP has such a consistent pro-life alternative in Kasich. Catholics should all be flocking to vote for him by that logic. I fail to see how they can justify supporting Trump over him. It’s intellectually dishonest IMHO.

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

Why? Seems like an important point to me. Trump was radically pro-choice until sometime in his 60s - left of both Hillary and Sanders on the issue. He is still a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. For decades I have been hearing Catholics say both of those positions were automatic disqualifiers, now they don’t matter. Frankly, I never agreed with the single issue, knee-jerk position of some Catholics, but I don’t get why those people would now drop that position to go with Trump.

Wall trumps unborn.

 

[Path_Finder]

Some pundits likewise conjecture, no wall and an amnesty, it will be more than California that goes from red to a deep blue. Let’s see how strong the pro-life movement is then.

 

[Vouthon]

I agree, people do underestimate him because of his bombast. Piers Morgan (who stated he’d never dream of voting for him) said that he has an astute mind. That’s what makes him particularly dangerous.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Why? Seems like an important point to me. Trump was radically pro-choice until sometime in his 60s - left of both Hillary and Sanders on the issue. He is still a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. For decades I have been hearing Catholics say both of those positions were automatic disqualifiers, now they don’t matter. Frankly, I never agreed with the single issue, knee-jerk position of some Catholics, but I don’t get why those people would now drop that position to go with Trump.

If he doesn’t support abortion which he obviously doesn’t but supports aspects of PP with abortion banned how is that an issue?

“I am pro-life, I am totally against abortion having to do with Planned Parenthood, but millions and millions of women, [with] cervical cancer, breast cancer, are helped by Planned Parenthood,”

“Planned Parenthood does a really good job at a lot of different areas. But not on abortion,” he said Sunday. “So I’m not going to fund it if it’s doing the abortion. I am not going to fund it.”

Frankly I think we are talking past the issue and avoiding addressing as I read on this thread.

 

[queenofheartscv]

Why? Seems like an important point to me. Trump was radically pro-choice until sometime in his 60s - left of both Hillary and Sanders on the issue. He is still a big supporter of Planned Parenthood. For decades I have been hearing Catholics say both of those positions were automatic disqualifiers, now they don’t matter. Frankly, I never agreed with the single issue, knee-jerk position of some Catholics, but I don’t get why those people would now drop that position to go with Trump.

Because all the poster was repeating was trump praised PP. He was tired of repeating it and I’m tired of hearing it.

 

[gracepoole]

As long as it is a Western nation; it is okay to criticize. If it is some Eastern European nation building walls or not allowing in immigrants, we may well not hear the same criticism.

I’m fine criticizing Hungary for building a wall.

 

[GaryTaylor]

Because all the poster was repeating was trump praised PP. He was tired of repeating it and I’m tired of hearing it.

And after 95 pages and direct confrontation, no-one has made this suggested point. Just bang on with false accusations as I see unless I missed something but if that was the case you would think someone would be Catholic charitable and address and post it? Where can I find that it appears to be missing while accusing others of faith issues? What a hoot that is.

 

[Darryl1958]

When the truth starts to get difficult for Trump’s supporters to hear, that means that something is finally getting through.

The man does not have conservative values.

 

[Mary_Gail_36]

How come when Obama was praising the other good services at Planned Parenthood, it was pointed out that they don’t actually provide mammograms and only provide cervical cancer screenings.

But Trump is saying something similar, and now it’s fine.

A cancer patient would not receive treatment at Planned Parenthood.

So who is Trump talking about “millions of women”?