Trump v GOP

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Exiled_Child said:
Heā€™s tremendously unpopular, hated actually, by Neoconservatives, many Jewish groups here and abroad, the Republican Party leaders, etc., and as a result heā€™s being labelled a ā€œNazi.ā€
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Maybe that has to do with the similarities between his rhetoric and proposed policies and those in vogue in Nazi Germany.
 
ā€œLetā€™s do a pledge. Who likes me in this room?ā€ Trump asked the crowd. ā€œIā€™ve never done this before. Can I have a pledge? A swearing? Raise your right hand.ā€
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The Republican front-runner then had the audience repeat after him.
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ā€œI do solemnly swear that I, no matter how I feel, no matter what the conditions, if there are hurricanes or whatever, will vote on or before the 12th for Donald J. Trump for President.ā€
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The crowd ended the pledge with cheers.
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cnn.com/2016/03/05/politics/donald-trump-florida-pledge-torture/

Isnā€™t this a little creepy? Will he next ask his followers to say, ā€œHeil Trump!ā€
 
gracepoole said:
Maybe that has to do with the similarities between his rhetoric and proposed policies and those in vogue in Nazi Germany.
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American and Israeli politicians routinely use rhetoric and institute policies similar to those that were in vogue in Nazi Germany.

Itā€™s an accurate depiction of Trump, in my view, but itā€™s so incredibly hypocritical that the charge is made entirely meaningless.

Sanders is really the only major candidate who isnā€™t Nazi-like, but heā€™s nonetheless unacceptable for some of his stances.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Itā€™s creepy for you because you are not a trump voter. If you go into a rally already determined to vote trump, itā€™s not creepy at all to swear youā€™re going to do what you already want to do.
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No, itā€™s creepy for me because large groups of people giving what visually looks like the Nazi salute is creepy.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Itā€™s creepy for you because you are not a trump voter. If you go into a rally already determined to vote trump, itā€™s not creepy at all to swear youā€™re going to do what you already want to do.
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Thereā€™s a difference between voting for whoever you decide to vote for when the time comes and having a candidate ask to to ā€œsolemnly swearā€ to vote for them. I would never swear to vote for any candidate beforehand no matter how much I liked them.
 
Exiled_Child said:
American and Israeli politicians routinely use rhetoric and institute policies similar to those that in vogue in Nazi Germany.
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Offhand, I donā€™t recall the last time a presidential candidate sought to ban all adherents of a specific religion from entering the US.
Exiled_Child said:
Itā€™s an accurate depiction of Trump, in my view, but itā€™s so incredibly hypocritical that the charge is made entirely meaningless.
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Iā€™ve never found tu quoque claims to be persuasive.
Exiled_Child said:
Sanders is really the only major candidate who isnā€™t Nazi-like
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gracepoole said:
Iā€™ve answered this already. At times, yes. And at times, no.

Buy honestly, who cares? As Iā€™ve said before on this thread, the government isnā€™t simply a business. It canā€™t be run as one.
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Isnā€™t this the point? Someone is trying to make the government run like a business and they are doing a terrible job at it? 19T in debt? Trade deficits with most ALL countriesā€¦at least thatā€™s the rumorā€¦
 
Thorolfr said:
Thereā€™s a difference between voting for whoever you decide to vote for when the time comes and having a candidate ask to to ā€œsolemnly swearā€ to vote for them. I would never swear to vote for any candidate beforehand no matter how much I liked them.
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Well I understand what you mean. Your perspective is different from those in attendance that are interacting with trump live in the moment. Itā€™s very much an ā€œin the momentā€ thing like in a concert, for my lack of a better word. It may look weird on the surface, but to people there experiencing it, it probably wasnā€™t. If it was, they just wouldnā€™t raise their hand.
 
petra22 said:
Isnā€™t this the point? Someone is trying to make the government run like a business and they are doing a terrible job at it? 19T in debt? Trade deficits with most ALL countriesā€¦at least thatā€™s the rumorā€¦
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Who is running the government like a business? I donā€™t think so. In business you couldnā€™t have so much wasteful spending.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Itā€™s creepy for you because you are not a trump voter. If you go into a rally already determined to vote trump, itā€™s not creepy at all to swear youā€™re going to do what you already want to do.
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Itā€™s actually the image of his followers holding up their right hands thatā€™s creepiest of all.
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Reminds me of this years Super Bowl. Back to the racist suggestions so quickly? šŸ˜›
 
queenofheartscv said:
Itā€™s creepy for you because you are not a trump voter. If you go into a rally already determined to vote trump, itā€™s not creepy at all to swear youā€™re going to do what you already want to do.
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Oh, I think I agree with the poster, when I see a picture of John F. Kennedy being sworn in as President and raising his right hand, I think it looks like a Nazi salute. šŸ˜‰
 
Path_Finder said:
Is it terrifying because in a Court of law or to be sworn into some elected offices, they ask you to raise oneā€™s right hand? Is that what one is insinuating?

ā€œRaise your right hand, I do so solemnly swearā€.

Gee, maybe we can send the Trump campaign a note, to carry 20,000 Bibles to hand out as well!
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Yes, thatā€™s exactly what ā€œone is insinuating.ā€ Iā€™m glad you skipped past what I actually said and got to the heart of what I obviously meant but was unaware that I meant.
 
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