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Well its subjective to a degree for sure. 2015 was a bad year for Gibson as they attempted to stray from the status quo of traditional style with G-Force tuners and in effect what was a zero nut and brass similar to the 60s Gretsch US instruments. I thought their 2014 electronics and craftsmanship was top notch for production line. You start talking Custom Shop and your talking even here 10 G. So it becomes a matter of buying the original or the historic reproductions. Not much difference. I still play a LP Standard and a Strat. My doctor just bought a 61 Johnny Smith for 10G and they go as high as 14-15. He plays jazz on the weekends. That said the 61 he bought over for me to look at the electronics. The B string is too pronounced and has no pole adjustment on the model. So I told him I can take the p-u apart and push the B magnet down or find the original 61 specs and I would build him another. Or just buy another 61 or a repo. Anyway even then in the Golden era there were lemons and QC issues or like with the 61 non adjusting poles. etc.

Anyway glad to hear your playing music its a fantastic past time. A Tele and LP? 👍

They do good work elsewhere, I heard about a Russian name brand that was suppose to be really decent you never see them here though. Dean was importing a LP style with SD electronics [US] from Czechoslovakia which I liked. But you guys have the Marshall, VOX and Bare Knuckles pick-ups, everyone likes it here. I play through a VOX AC-15.
 
Exactly but innovation and the next great thing is always possible. I think its indicative as we were saying with the G-Tuner or Robot guitars by Gibson. Be it they failed thats the idea, the next great seller that wows everyone. Add QC to it, a quality craftsmanship then you have something.
 
Path_Finder said:
Well, they say Bernie never had a real job until he was 40, that’s just what the stories say and I’m sure I can find articles to back that up if one does not believe me.
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Did you even bother to read any biographical info about the man? He was 40 when he became Mayor, sure.

The man spent time in his 20s as a civil rights activist, and held a variety of jobs, including Head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, and carpenter.

Guess those don’t showcase work ethic in some minds…
 
jtauke said:
Trump isn’t a “great builder”.

The architects and construction companies are the builders. He’s just a financier.
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So he doesn’t have the final say on his buildings’ design and construction? Don’t buy it. His daughter Ivanka works extensively on building design, I think.

Have you heard of the NY ice rink story? The city couldn’t get the rink fixed after wasting tons of money and many years. Trump got the project, found the right people to give him advice (from Canada). He finished the project two months ahead of schedule, and $750,000 under budget. The rink has been a smashing success and he was definitely more than a financier.

articles.philly.com/1986-11-01/news/26094092_1_ice-rink-donald-trump-trump-time
 
jtauke said:
Did you even bother to read any biographical info about the man? He was 40 when he became Mayor, sure.

The man spent time in his 20s as a civil rights activist, and held a variety of jobs, including Head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, and carpenter.

Guess those don’t showcase work ethic in some minds…
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He’s a regular dissenter. I think he even went to jail in his activist days. 😃 I like Bernie better than Hillary for sure.
 
jtauke said:
Trump isn’t a “great builder”.

The architects and construction companies are the builders. He’s just a financier.
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When you own the project, your success is tied to hiring and managing the architects and construction companies. Projects that aren’t well managed go bust as costs escalate.

That’s the problem with many govt programs, nobody is managing for results - they are just spending their budgets and begging for an increase next year.

A simple but poignant example was when NY City spent 6 yrs renovating the ice rink in central park. It was stuck and $12m over budget. Trump stepped in and completed the project well under his budget at zero cost to the City. He was repaid out of concession profits in the first year.

1986 article: Faster And Cheaper, Trump Finishes N.y.c. Ice Rink

Forbes: Donald Trump And The Wollman Rinking of American Politics

Trump knows how to plan and execute, something lacking in most Govt leadership.
 
a bit of humor:
Today, *Wired *filed what is surely the greatest correction issued by any publication in this still-young year. It originated with a smart piece on what *Wired’*s Jason Tanz calls “marginal media,” content “in which background activity overwhelms the intended subject.” By way of example, Tanz points to Chris Christie’s dead gaze while he stood off to the side after introducing Donald Trump last week. Except instead of referring to Donald Trump, the article called the candidate “Someone with Tiny Hands.” The error apparently remained on the site for almost two hours before Wired fixed it.
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 As a note appended to the article explains, this error was the  product of “a haphazardly-installed Chrome extension during the editing  process.” That [Chrome extension](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/make-americas-hands-tiny/ojgpbadmpceampflpngboopnbgbhofjf)—“Make  America’s Hands Tiny Again”—is one of several designed to mock Trump.  In this case, it’s easy to understand how the error might have come  about—much as it’s hard to really fault anyone involved for this  delightful slip-up: Used to seeing the phrase in question, the piece’s  editor might not have realized that it had found its way into the actual  text of the article.
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Nobody proofreads before they hit the send button? I read Wired fairly regularly but I think I’ll take their stories with a grain of salt from now on.
 
Theo520 said:
When you own the project, your success is tied to hiring and managing the architects and construction companies. Projects that aren’t well managed go bust as costs escalate.

That’s the problem with many govt programs, nobody is managing for results - they are just spending their budgets and begging for an increase next year.

A simple but poignant example was when NY City spent 6 yrs renovating the ice rink in central park. It was stuck and $12m over budget. Trump stepped in and completed the project well under his budget at zero cost to the City. He was repaid out of concession profits in the first year.

1986 article: Faster And Cheaper, Trump Finishes N.y.c. Ice Rink

Forbes: Donald Trump And The Wollman Rinking of American Politics

Trump knows how to plan and execute, something lacking in most Govt leadership.
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Managing anything in which money is allocated to achieve results is much more difficult than many who have never done it, think it is. If one adds the condition that the enterprise has to meet cost-benefit criteria, it’s even more difficult. In private business, you know whether criteria are met because either the market will support it or it won’t. In government, there are no market checks, the objectives are often vague and “success” is often measured by competing criteria so that nobody can say for sure that the operation met its objectives or not.

I think it would be amusing to the point of desirability to see if a guy like Trump could wade into the morass of government programs and spending, clarify objectives and trim down the budgets intended to meet those objectives.

If I had to guess whether he could get a substantial amount of it done in eight years, I would bet on it before I would bet against it.
 
jtauke said:
Did you even bother to read any biographical info about the man? He was 40 when he became Mayor, sure.

The man spent time in his 20s as a civil rights activist, and held a variety of jobs, including Head Start teacher, psychiatric aide, and carpenter.

Guess those don’t showcase work ethic in some minds…
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If we’re talking about Sanders here, and I think we are, his earliest years were spent in a Marxist-Zionist kibbutz in Israel, where he went by some Hebrew name or other.

I’m guessing workers in a Marxist-Zionist kibbutz were not exactly lolling about on beds of roses.
 
mary_bobo said:
Sounds like he spent too much time in Jeremiah Wright’s church.
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Somewhat, thinking of those who I thought were great leaders, I know of none who aspired to be the best Black man or the best White man, they aspired to be the best period. I think thats his shortcoming which I have seen as another step in adversity imho. 🤷
 
grotto said:
The London fog isn’t interfering with your clearly held opinion. It seems you really do not like Trump and won’t vote for him. Well, that’s one man’s opinion. Americans are moving the back room boys out of the back room - Trump seems to be our choice to get the job done. 😉
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This is absolutely so. We are not to speak of each other but per one’s views, I see inconsistency.

Russia, Americans should not even talk about it. USA, multiple posts on it.

Immigration, USA should allow all or a large number of refugees, Russia, doesn’t allow refugees, not a peep.

Trump, be critical, Russian Dictatorship, again, we should not even be commenting. To heck with the Russian people though, let’s just defend the government.

USA, high on charity scale, the differences go on and on.

But this is America, land of the free, so we respect all views forumwise.
 
Trump is pleased to have conservative commentators call him an anti-establishment rebel, but he isn’t really trying to connect with voters based on restoration of conservative principles such as limited government, deregulation, and free markets. In passing, he mentions wasteful spending by the government and incompetent budget deals, but he is never specific about what he would cut (other than his implausible claim that he could save $300 billion annually on Medicare drug costs).
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His focus is clearly on stoking resentment among working-class voters toward immigration and trade. That’s what these voters hear, and that is what has propelled him to the top of the national polls. His voters aren’t interested in getting rid of the Ex-Im Bank or any other agency for that matter. What they want is a wall on the southern border (even if it costs $25 billion), mass deportations of undocumented immigrants on an implausible scale, and new tariffs on foreign goods in plain violation of multiple international agreements. Trump says his economic plan will bring jobs back from China, Mexico, and Japan. His voters want to believe that is true, despite the massive evidence that Trump’s empty policy pronouncements, even if they could be implemented, would be disastrous for the U.S. economy.
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Trump Is Not Leading a Conservative Revolt
 
Funny you should mention Mussolini. I agree. The Trump phenomenon is a bit of a cult, nationalism, populism, anti-trade, xenophobia, etc. There are some similarities to be sure. Unfortunately I think you should adjust - Trump has a very good chance to be our next President.

Sanders took blue collar Michigan State last night against Hillary in the Democratic primary and this means Trump could very well take Michigan (industrial North States), the South, the Midwest, the Northeast (New York, New England states, Pennsylvania (?), Maryland (?)). Trump gets African American votes outside of the South. And he does very well with moderates, independents, white working class Democrats. As far as I am concerned, given how vulnerable Hillary looks with much of her base, much of the country is up for grabs in the general. California, Nevada, Colorado…you name it.

I do not see this as a good thing. We conservatives need to (gulp…! :eek:) get behind Cruz. Another idea down the road would be a 3rd party run - popular moderate, Kasich, something like that. I think Kasich could actually challenge Trump and Hillary pretty effectively, calm a lot of people’s nerves. Trump and Sanders, wouldn’t that be something…(I am, alas, done putting time and emotional energy into Rubio…)

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I think Mexico might end up being pretty *thankful *for that wall before too long - you might actually see Americans heading South over it… 🙂
 
FollowChrist34 said:
The Trump phenomenon is a bit of a cult
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Well … maybe. 😦 I don’t know if you saw my exchange with gracepoole (which wasn’t entirely serious of course) quoted below, but seriously I think there may be a few posters (wear the shoe if it fits!) who don’t like T***p yet are completely hooked on talking about him.
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Peter J;13733306:
Well, if you ever get tired of it, there *are *
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other posters here. (Edit: I mean the whole forum as “here”, not just this thread.)

Or are you just afraid that all of us will deem your conversation to be racist bs? 😃

Kidding. 😉
That’s a great post on which to end my evening. 🙂
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Funny you should mention Mussolini. I agree. The Trump phenomenon is a bit of a cult, nationalism, populism, anti-trade, xenophobia, etc. There are some similarities to be sure. Unfortunately I think you should adjust - Trump has a very good chance to be our next President.
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If detractors can once again, can only accuse Trump of bigotry aka the race card, that isn’t much especially if it is not valid.

Yesterday, laughably, wanting Syrian Christians in America who are passed by the UN and executive branch was somehow linked to Nazism.

So, once someone takes away the race card and that is also applied to supporters by many, there is not much meat there.
 
Peter_J said:
Well … maybe. 😦 I don’t know if you saw my exchange with gracepoole (which wasn’t entirely serious of course) quoted below, but seriously I think there may be a few posters (wear the shoe if it fits!) who don’t like T***p yet are completely hooked on talking about him.
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No, I didn’t see it - I am kind of drive by posting here - I just go in and do my post. Believe me, if I didn’t have to talk about Trump I wouldn’t. It is like a bad toothache - “think positive” “think on other things” can only get you so far…😃 (or accomplish so much) As far as I am concerned we are pretty close to the ‘crisis’ stage on the T* phenomenon…
 
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