Trump's Catholic support...or lack thereof

[RidgeSprinter]

Well, I guess you can get whatever position you want if you support Trump. That said, 3.5 years into his administration and it’s still legal…

12 years of Reagan/Bush and it is still legal
8 years of Bush and it is still legal

And if Trump survives the November election, it will be another 8 years and will probably still be legal.

 

[tomarin]

Bazinga! (10 characters)

 

[RidgeSprinter]

I have that t-shirt.

 

[MikeInVA]

How do you know that’s not a reflection of the views of their audience?

Because no group of people is homogeneous, despite what the pollsters think.

 

[tomarin]

It seems we’re not accustomed in the U.S. to using troops to quell protests by American citizens; I think Kent State was the last time this happened.

 

[tomarin]

I have to admit I’m a little confused about whether the national guard is considered ‘the military’ or not.

 

[Victoria33]

What “Americans” are you talking about? I’m an American and I want it. It’s never going to happen, but I still would like to see it.

And the deaths of many people would seem to be inevitable. Well, I’m certainly not for that.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Trump isn’t the cause of th unprecedented chaos and upheaval of the past for years.He most certainly is the target,however…Considering this chaos began even before he was sworn into office,it might be enlightening to expose the reasons for this.He clearly is getting n the way of a neferious agenda to transform this Nation.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

I would rather have the people respect life, and not seek abortion in the first place.

Of course.

But until we reach that stage, would you rather have a President who appoints pro-life judges or liberal judges who allow abortion on demand?

Judges who are going to overturn Roe v. Wade might be marginally better than those who are not. But to me it is not worth the risk of destroying all the good things Trump continues to destroy. And you can disagree with that judgement, as is your right.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Tsk tsk tsk…

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Yeah, I periodically leave CA (or am asked to leave; thanks Robert Bay…)

Is Robert Bay still a moderator? (“Now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time…a long time”).

I too got some kindly “correction” by Mr. Bay, and I too say “Thank you, wherever you are.”

 

[pnewton]

the way of a neferious agenda

Then back to the original question. Perhaps he has lost support among the majority of Catholics because the majority Catholics are not believers in conspiracies and want a president that is willing to accept responsibility.

That is another possible answer.

 

[Jeanne_S]

Possible but not probable.Any of it.

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Indeed. I have no idea if he is still around. Good memories, even the chastisements.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

There seem to be two ways to approach riots and looting: withdraw the police, or send in the troops. It seems option one is simply capitulating to terror and abandoning citizens to face the rioters on their own. Why is option two not preferable?

It’s not as simple as that. If there was primarily a riot and arson and looting, it would be appropriate to send in the police, fire dept. etc. and restore order. But in the presence of a huge demonstration that is emotionally highly charged, sending in the police to “clear the streets” might likely cause the protesters to erupt in worse violence, as it would be seen by them as opposing their cause. It could be a good strategic decision in some circumstances to back off for a time. I’m sure people will be debating whether Minneapolis that first night was such a circumstance or not.

 

[Boatswain2PA]

110000 dead and race riots under his watch.

by this ridiculous logic, he is to be credited with saving 2.1 million.

Reasonable people know both claims are ridiculous.

 

[josie_L]

Morally yes, but when applied to the political arena it makes little sense to vouch for a candidate much more pro-choice, in fact, for a politician who makes no exceptions at all.

 

[tomarin]

Not trying to be provocative here but arguably he (Biden) is responding in a more thoughtful and even dare I say presidential way to the George Floyd crisis than the current occupant of the White House is.

 

[RuthAnne]

And the deaths of many people would seem to be inevitable. Well, I’m certainly not for that.

The state is responsible for more deaths than anarchy ever will.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Not trying to be provocative here but arguably he (Biden) is responding in a more thoughtful and even dare I say presidential way to the George Floyd crisis than the current occupant of the White House is.

Yes, I just listened to Joe Biden’s talk at the funeral. It was refreshing: