Trump's incompetence makes Andrew Cuomo's performance look better than it is

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There will be 100k dead by June 1. With summer and fall outbreaks to come.
We are 4.5% of the population and have 33% of the deaths.
The virus being here remains the Federal Governments failure.
Not stopping INTERNATIONAL flights from Europe on time.
Nursing homes in NYC got hard hit, but this is a national story, where Red states are increasing in infection while NY is decreasing. Red states are just about to see Covid.
 
Golly, welcome back. Sorry you’ve got nothing but bad opinions about our President. Surely even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes… I heard that said somewhere…
 
tomarin said:
but he could have taken it seriously and not simply wished it away; that’s what I find unforgivable.
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Do you really have any idea of what he was doing with his scientific and medical advisors? Perhaps he doesn’t express his actions and ideas to your liking but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t taking it seriously. Trying to stay positive to help the millions of scared Americans is to be commended in my book! I’m tired of being scared to death…
 
The only time they question anyone is if “they” heard or think the person may have some bit of information that contradicts the President…
 
If you go by all of his public statements, his not taking it seriously is a reasonable observation.
 
Maximus1 said:
all of his public statements, his not taking it seriously is a reasonable observation.
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That is YOUR personal opinion and 90% of the MSM. Still just opinion. If you can’t say something nice once in a while, what’s the use?
 
Then pick any state that would be a fair comparison. California? Texas?

What is so wrong about using results to judge a leader? I get this is a new thing. However, it is completely hypocritical to judge Trump by the deaths in this country and not do the same for Cuomo. That is transparent political bias. Attack them both, or neither, but do not be that unstable, double-standard, partisan that cannot see past political parties.
Jeanne_S said:
If China had not allowed this virus to spread globally…
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But that is the nature of disease. There is not a chance to allow or disallow. This is the very point on which President Trump was warned, and which he did not take seriously.
 
Yes it’s been well documented. Are you saying he was taking decisive action with his advisors at the same time he was calling the virus a Democratic hoax?

I know it’s hard to believe anyone could be that incompetent or that callous but that’s the leader we have. People got tricked into thinking because he’s full of bluster and insults he’s a strong leader but he’s not.
 
@PetraG you can find a timeline of all the missed opportunities and inexplicable inaction despite a multitude of warnings if you type into a browser ‘Why Trump Was Deaf To All The Warnings He Received’ by David A. Graham.
 
pnewton said:
But that is the nature of disease. There is not a chance to allow or disallow. This is the very point on which President Trump was warned, and which he did not take seriously.
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I don’t understand why people keep saying he did not take it seriously??? Is it because he said it would pass? SARS passed, H1N1 passed, Spanish flu passed, all the pandemics passed… How did he NOT take it seriously?
 
tomarin said:
he spent months diminishing the severity of the threat and essentially wishing it away (when he should have been using the power and scope of the federal government to prepare for it), presumably because he didn’t want to spook the stock market, which from all reports he is extremely preoccupied with.
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Can you prove that he spent months diminishing the severity of the threat? Please be specific.
 
Trump said a lot of things and editors have put together very accurate videos capturing his words precisely. The videos prevent revisionism.
 
petra22 said:
I don’t understand why people keep saying he did not take it seriously??? Is it because he said it would pass? SARS passed, H1N1 passed, Spanish flu passed, all the pandemics passed… How did he NOT take it seriously?
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Trump and his administration made specific comments about the spread being under control, predicting, when the cases numbered 15, a quickly diminishing and vanishing caseload, the disappearance in April, etc. Their failure to take the virus seriously is further evidenced by their lack of preparation during February for the coming coming outbreak.
 
I looked at Presidents own words in which he said the Democrats were criticizing his response to the Corona-19 virus. Their CRITICISM of his administration’s response is the Democrats new HOAX. Not HIS thinking about the virus or HIS dealing with the virus but how they SAY he responded. Get the gentle nuance? It’s so slight of hand that it makes people think he called the virus a Hoax which he did NOT. Please go look for yourselves. NBC had the speech where I looked but they would not let me copy it for you…
 
I took your advice and looked again.
Looking at the entire statement he downplayed the seriousness of Covid.
He likened Covid to the flu.
He implied that the Democrats were attempting to make the virus more than it was. The Democrats " hoax," was also analogized to impeachment, and he denied the facts there. So it is cute by half to deny that hoax didn’t reflect upon the seriousness of Covid
 
You seem to be selective with the “facts” of the impeachment… Look back at the testimony given by all the witnesses. NONE said President Trump did anything that was a crime. They gave a LOT of personal opinions. So why would the president NOT give his side of what the impeachment was meant to do? Mislead the American people. AS even withheld testimony that was given in private sessions that would have been favorable to the president. Giving half the truth to the people is a miscarriage of justice and truth. Donald Trump is not God nor is he anything close to perfect but he is trying his very best for the country. That’s my opinion.
 
Please take a look at the detailed timeline in the article I posted (in my second post) ‘Why Trump Was Deaf To All The Warnings He Received’ by David A. Graham (sorry for not providing a hyperlink; I don’t know how to copy a URL from a smartphone browser).

Re the hoax thing, I have looked at the transcript of the remarks and he does indeed seem to be calling it a Democratic hoax. I take that as evidence that he did not take the virus seriously. Also multiple times he said it would only affect a few people, that it would disappear in a month or when the warm weather comes, or that ‘we have it under control’ when that obviously wasn’t the case. He wished it away.
 
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Impeachment does not require" a crime."
If it did, they would have stopped at Treason and bribery.
Or they would have created a list.
Or refered to another nation’s penal code since we did not yet have one.
They said high crimes and misdomeanors which is not coextensive with some codified or common law crime.
The Witnesses did testify to the type of act of Curruption the founders did describe in the Federalist papers however. Including soliciting campaign help from a foreign government.
They also testified that it was not mearly a solicitation. Trump coupled it with an extortive condition.
Part of that condition was a Whitehouse meeting
Part was the threat of witholding military aid until a news conference saying an investigation was conducted by the Ukraine president.
Trump’s hand picked political appointment/ ambassador who gave him 1 million dollars testified to eye witnessing the first part of the quid pro quo, and several witnesses testified circumstantially to the remainder.
The facts included Trump’s political ally denying live witnesses. The first such denial in 250;years. A half trial according to Trump’s Chief of Staff, General Kelly.
Those are the facts. A defendants denial is standard.
In the end the legal defense was even if he did this, if Trump subjectively thinks his being president is better than Biden, than he can solicit all he wants. That’s absurd. So there are your facts. OJ years ago got off based upon, if the glove doesn’t fit, you must aquit. I still consider that woefully insufficient to overcome evidence. As is the case here.
You say," Trump tried his very best." I say he tried his very best to cheat and misuse the power of his office, and got caught.
 
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