Truth in a Restaurant

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MikeWM:
In 132 countries, according to the Wikipedia, which is in the right ballpark. That’s a majority of countries :confused:

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And usually on the most beautiful beaches (when applicable) of said country.
 
Ani Ibi:
I have not given a definition of imperialism. But what I have done is ask that support be given for an accusation concerning rampant American imperalism. One would expect that some link to a credible definition of imperialism might be in order.
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Here’s a definition for you from www.dictionary.com:

imperialism

n 1: a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries 2: a political orientation that advocates imperial interests 3: any instance of aggressive extension of authority
 
Wikipedia is not a credible source. Mike already knows that because we have already discussed the credibility or lack thereof of Wikipedia on this forum.
 
Ani Ibi:
I have not given a definition of imperialism. But what I have done is ask that support be given for an accusation concerning rampant American imperalism. One would expect that some link to a credible definition of imperialism might be in order.

My asking for a credible definition of imperialism sounds like imperialism to you? :confused:
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You were the one who said that the American take over of Diego Garcia was NOT imperialism. That not asking for a definition, that’s denying one.
 
Ani Ibi:
Wikipedia is not a credible source. Mike already knows that because we have already discussed the credibility or lack thereof of Wikipedia on this forum.
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Mike does already know this opinion (though just because someone says it isn’t credible, doesn’t make it so). Nevertheless I believe the figure is approximately correct.

Mike
 
Perhaps we should just call ALL the troops home, use the money to build super defensive weapons, and wait until they come to the border and attack/break/kill … yeh, right.

And they will come.

But it will be after they take care of business in the wimpy countries who want peace without price. They won’t get peace, they will get pieces.
 
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MrS:
Perhaps we should just call ALL the troops home, use the money to build super defensive weapons, and wait until they come to the border and attack/break/kill … yeh, right.

And they will come.

But it will be after they take care of business in the wimpy countries who want peace without price. They won’t get peace, they will get pieces.
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As everyone knows, it’s always best to bring the devastation of war to your own country, rather than defeat the enemy overseas.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
 
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walstan:
You were the one who said that the American take over of Diego Garcia was NOT imperialism. That not asking for a definition, that’s denying one.
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Quote me please.
 
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Balance:
not my responsibilty at all.
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You are responsible for what you say. You have referred to American rampant imperialism. Either give support for what you say or don’t say it in the first place.
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Balance:
if we were talking face to face and I had a book about this I’d give you the book and say read it - because the book would say it better than I could.
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I am not asking for a book. Do you have a google search window? Then please be kind enough to find something from a credible source to back up your accusation, precis the article, set out your position with reference to the article, and post the link to the article.

How is this different from the essay you are supposed to be writing? Are you not required to set out your position logically? Make references to authoritative sources? Provide cites?
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Balance:
again, the facts of who got the contracts are public knowledge, easily researched.
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If it is so easy, then why are you refusing to take responsibility for what you have said by providing the requested information?
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Balance:
there’s no great secret there.
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Strawman assertion. No one said it was a secret. What was said was that your accusation was an unsupported assertion. You have conceded the point that it was an unsupported assertion by refusing to provide support for it.
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Balance:
go look it up.
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Please refrain from making requests of me without prefacing such requests with ‘please.’ Please look it up yourself. We are not here to go on rabbit chases for you.
 
I was totally shocked and surprised when a Captain approached me today and asked me if it was alright to have a re-enlistment ceremony in my store. I emphatically answered, “Yes.”
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This quote sets out the topic of this thread. Balance and Walstan: you have diverted this discussion from the topic of this thread to what you want to talk about.

If you have further thoughts about the US taking over NZ, then please find a news link on that subject and start another thread. This is the second time I am bringing up the OP.
 
Ani Ibi:
Quote me please.
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Try post 52
I doubt seriously if taking over a tiny place fits the goals of imperialism.
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As I said YOUR definition. Ask the people from Diego Garcia if THEY think it isn’t imperialism.

p.s And before you “fire off” about being off topic, look at the opening post:
One exec said he was spit on at the Berlin airport because he wore an American flag pin on his coat. (Interesting statement in one sense as there are three international airports serving Berlin)
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The conjecture is that that may have been because of the impression of American imperialism. Off topic? Only if you can’t cope with the answers.
 
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Anglican77:
Here’s a definition for you from www.dictionary.com:

imperialism

n 1: a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries 2: a political orientation that advocates imperial interests 3: any instance of aggressive extension of authority
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imperialism

• noun a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through colonization, use of military force, or other means.

I believe that definition from the Oxford English Dictionary - I do believe that it’s a more credible source than “dictionary.com”, an internet source. :rolleyes:

It clearly states that through “Other means” America’s extending it’s power and influence over many countries in this world. Therefore America’s foreign policy can, infact, be considered “Imperialistic”.

And through “Military Force”, this is plainly obvious, extending your power and influence in Iraq. Whether you may call it “Freedom” or not, you’ve imposed a way of life that may, or may not, be suitable to the inhabitants (Though in time that shall, or shall not be evident, depending on how the three distinct groups can cope under a Democracy).

The dictating of who gets the contracts of what in Iraq, in which currency do they trade their oil and how much they produce was voluntarily made by America (“Oh, don’t worry. We’ll tell you what currency to trade in, the one that’s least beneficial to us why not!” - Wrong! From the euro back to the US Dollar it was! 👍 )

And what’s an Imperial Interest, as stated in the initial definition from “Dictionary.com”? Resources, power, money, influence & trade. I believe America, whether the private companies or government, recieved all. Money from the contracts. Trade from the oil - By this I mean more countries must trade with America in order to buy Dollars to buy oil. Resources - The oil itself. Influence - A very pro-American country in the Middle East. Power? Well, America’s economic power will no longer be contested by Iraq trading in euro, and with a powerful economy, comes a powerful army.

Colonisation? I do believe, in your history, the territory of the Native Americans counts. Though, I know you’re referring to the present day - Were it otherwise, I’d bring up Liberia & The Phillipines. :rolleyes:

And in another sense, the private business sense. Multi-National Corporations, on which many countries rely - Like Ireland. We depend on America’s Multi National Corporations, without which, our economy would be fairly bad - And what’s the point in this? Well, America’s government can decide to warn businesses away from Ireland (Oh, that’s not hard… We already have one of the most expensive work forces in the Western World (Why thank you Socialists, demand another pay rise, causing inflation to increase, causing you to demand more pay, more inflation, more pay - It’s a circle of Hell!) and its effects are already showing, in some companies departing for cheaper lands.) and we’ll bow to their every whim. Why else are we allowing American aeroplanes to land in Shannon Airport? Of course, I know some of you will ask “But why not simply demand they send troops etc…?”, simply enough, we are neutral.

It is not hard to see how influencial a world power is, whether economically, politically or militarily. Analyse whatever situations they’re involved in, how they react with other nations etc… And you can simply see, there IS Imperialistic tendancies to America’s policy. While it’s not an “Empire”, and a Republic, you can’t technically say it’s Imperialistic - So what, then, with practically the same meaning, do we call it? Just plain old “Influencial”? Nah, doesn’t fit.
 
vern humphrey:
It’s amazing how many words some people need to say, "I hate America."http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
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Amazing how many words you need for the one word: “Ignorance” - No, I do not “hate” America. Do you know me? Are you in my head?

By me, simply, analysing America’s foreign policy, you ignorantly brand me a racist? Well done! And from your words, with the EXACT same logic, I shall now simply brand you ignorant. 🙂

One reason I’m critical (Not hate filled.) of America’s policy, is the simple fact that you ignorantly call those who oppose the Iraq War “American Haters”, or those, in your country, non patriotic this that or the other. While on the other hand, you have those who call the people who support the Iraq War equally offensive names (I believe I have heard the term “Nazi” being used quite liberally by the “other” side).

But hey, calling me a racist will surely get me to see your views, and certainly supporting the Iraq War! :rolleyes:
 
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Zerith:
Amazing how many words you need for the one word: “Ignorance” - No, I do not “hate” America. Do you know me? Are you in my head?
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Did you write this?
And you can simply see, there IS Imperialistic tendancies to America’s policy. While it’s not an “Empire”, and a Republic, you can’t technically say it’s Imperialistic - So what, then, with practically the same meaning, do we call it? Just plain old “Influencial”? Nah, doesn’t fit.
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Zerith:
By me, simply, analysing America’s foreign policy, you ignorantly brand me a racist? Well done! And from your words, with the EXACT same logic, I shall now simply brand you ignorant.
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Brand yourself as ignorant first, until you can post a quote where I called you a racist.
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Zerith:
One reason I’m critical (Not hate filled.) of America’s policy, is the simple fact that you ignorantly call those who oppose the Iraq War “American Haters”, or those, in your country, non patriotic this that or the other. While on the other hand, you have those who call the people who support the Iraq War equally offensive names (I believe I have heard the term “Nazi” being used quite liberally by the “other” side).

But hey, calling me a racist will surely get me to see your views, and certainly supporting the Iraq War! :rolleyes:
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Once again, you accuse me of calling you a racist. And once again, I ask you to post a quote where I called you that.
 
Yes, I did write that - And tell me - How does that fit into “Hating America”?

I deduced, from my entire post analysing America’s policy, that it does have policies which fit into the definition of “Imperialism” - And in that quote I simply said “Seen as it’s a Republic, and not an Empire, though still fits into the definition, what do we call it? Plainly “Influencial” doesn’t fit” - So that means I hate America?
It’s amazing how many words some people need to say, “I hate America.”
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Ah, yes, so by that you emply that I just simply hate the government and the land/territories? If so, then there is a first time for everything - But you’re still not in my head, and you still do not know me - Prejudging that I “Hate America”.
 
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Zerith:
Ah, yes, so by that you emply that I just simply hate the government and the land/territories? If so, then there is a first time for everything - But you’re still not in my head,
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And I wouldn’t want to go there, either.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Zerith:
and you still do not know me - Prejudging that I “Hate America”.
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I know that you accused me of “ignorantly branding you as a racist” – and have failed to post any quote of mine to back up that accusation.
 
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