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kitkatty
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Couldn`t agree more. I refuse to watch a tv program where people being humiliated is part of the programs entertainment value. We can see enough of this in real life, unfortunately.
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AlegreFe
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No it’s not.
Simon Cowell got them together. He hired agencies to find some of the best singers out there. My favorite IL Divo is David because in my opinion he has the best voice, the best range, the best clarity. I get goose bumps when I hear IL Divo but mostly when I hear David sing.
I have all their CDs and also their DVDs. I have them on my iPod also. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i85/Alegre-Fe/Emoticons/headsetmusic.gif
btw, I do watch American Idol but I can’t stand the way the judges treat some of the people. I cry when someone comes out crying. These people have real feelings and the judges, (especially Simon), just don’t seem to care about their feelings.
After the second season (didn’t know about AI the first season) I decided to only watch much after the Hollywood auditions. But then I found myself wanting to know how a particular contestant did on his first audition and on some of their other performances. So this year I decided to watch from the beginning. So far it’s a bumpy ride for me.
I watched from the very beginning in the second season. That is where I became a huge fan of Clay Aiken. I like how Simon asked Clay if he has seen the first show (of AI1) as if he knew there was no way that Clay could sing. And then Clay opened his mouth to sing. I fell in love with his voice right away. And there was nothing cocky about Clay in that first audition that they showed on AI.
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AlegreFe
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No they were not.
But I sure hope that IL Divo will be on AI6! They can have an “IL Divo Week” and the contestants can sing IL Divo songs. Well the English ones anyway; unless we get some Spanish speaking, or Italian or French speaking contestants.
Even if they did have IL Divo week or something, no one will ever be able to fill their shoes as far as voice talent. I’m also a huge fan of Josh Groban and I know that IL Divo voices are much better than Josh’s voice.
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Cat
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No, you’re all getting it wrong! No!
Do you believe that when you are training for a profession, the trainer has the right to tell you that you doing something incorrectly and advise you to correct your mistakes?
I am a med tech, and I spent four years learning how NOT to be a clumsy yutz in the hospital lab!
How about doctors? Do you think they have it easy during the internship or residency?
How about welders? What if the instructor never told the welder how to actually “weld?”
How about military people? What kind of military would we have if the drill sergeants were “sweet?”
The fact is, show business, including singing, is incredibly tough on people. Although there are many nice people in the entertainment business, there are many who are NOT so nice, at least by the standards of those outside of the entertainment business. Many people will stab you in the back, lie to you, mislead you, and then take advantage of you to push themselves into the spotlight.
You will go to an audition, the director will take a look at you, and before you even sing a note, he/she will say, “No, too fat.”
Or you will go to fifty auditions, a hundred auditions, and not even get one callback.
Critics will assail you, the public will desert you, and you will constantly wonder, “Am I any good at this?”
The judges on American Idol are trying to weed out those who aren’t tough enough for show business careers by baiting them, criticizing them, and insulting them. They are breaking them down, or trying to, because if the person breaks down at this early stage of the game, then they are NOT right for show business!
Those who are tough enough to use the criticism to MAKE IMPROVEMENTS in themselves succeed on the show and in their entertainment careers outside of the show. Look at Taylor Hicks. Simon was just plain mean to him at times, or so it seemed. But Taylor used the information to fine-tune his presentation and singing, and won the competition.
Many of the people who audition are just awful, either in their presentation (appearance), singing, or both. If they listened to the very knowledgeable judges, they could make improvements. Lose weight, find a different dressing style, a different hairdo and makeup. Practice good posture. And above all else, TAKE VOICE LESSONS! I don’t know why so many people think that only naturals make it in popular music. No way. ANYONE, including the best opera singers in the world, continue to take voice lessons (or acting classes or dance classes, or piano lessons, etc.)
The judges point this out to the auditioners, and are told that they don’t know anything about music. That kind of egotistical person, who is not open to improvement, will NEVER make it in the entertainment business.
It would be more MORALLY WRONG wrong of the judges to be “nice” to show biz career hopefuls. It would set the hopefuls up for horrific failure later.
Do you believe that when you are training for a profession, the trainer has the right to tell you that you doing something incorrectly and advise you to correct your mistakes?
I am a med tech, and I spent four years learning how NOT to be a clumsy yutz in the hospital lab!
How about doctors? Do you think they have it easy during the internship or residency?
How about welders? What if the instructor never told the welder how to actually “weld?”
How about military people? What kind of military would we have if the drill sergeants were “sweet?”
The fact is, show business, including singing, is incredibly tough on people. Although there are many nice people in the entertainment business, there are many who are NOT so nice, at least by the standards of those outside of the entertainment business. Many people will stab you in the back, lie to you, mislead you, and then take advantage of you to push themselves into the spotlight.
You will go to an audition, the director will take a look at you, and before you even sing a note, he/she will say, “No, too fat.”
Or you will go to fifty auditions, a hundred auditions, and not even get one callback.
Critics will assail you, the public will desert you, and you will constantly wonder, “Am I any good at this?”
The judges on American Idol are trying to weed out those who aren’t tough enough for show business careers by baiting them, criticizing them, and insulting them. They are breaking them down, or trying to, because if the person breaks down at this early stage of the game, then they are NOT right for show business!
Those who are tough enough to use the criticism to MAKE IMPROVEMENTS in themselves succeed on the show and in their entertainment careers outside of the show. Look at Taylor Hicks. Simon was just plain mean to him at times, or so it seemed. But Taylor used the information to fine-tune his presentation and singing, and won the competition.
Many of the people who audition are just awful, either in their presentation (appearance), singing, or both. If they listened to the very knowledgeable judges, they could make improvements. Lose weight, find a different dressing style, a different hairdo and makeup. Practice good posture. And above all else, TAKE VOICE LESSONS! I don’t know why so many people think that only naturals make it in popular music. No way. ANYONE, including the best opera singers in the world, continue to take voice lessons (or acting classes or dance classes, or piano lessons, etc.)
The judges point this out to the auditioners, and are told that they don’t know anything about music. That kind of egotistical person, who is not open to improvement, will NEVER make it in the entertainment business.
It would be more MORALLY WRONG wrong of the judges to be “nice” to show biz career hopefuls. It would set the hopefuls up for horrific failure later.
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AlegreFe
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Hi Cat. 
I’m sorry to say but I disagree with you on some level. I do think that the judges have to be honest with some of these people that think they can sing.
But they don’t have to be brutally vicious, insensative and downright inhumane about it. It doesn’t have to come to that for some of these people to realize they just won’t be able to make it in the business.
I’m sorry to say but I disagree with you on some level. I do think that the judges have to be honest with some of these people that think they can sing.
But they don’t have to be brutally vicious, insensative and downright inhumane about it. It doesn’t have to come to that for some of these people to realize they just won’t be able to make it in the business.
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AlegreFe
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I had my mind made up about Taylor long before Simon would criticize him. I voted for Taylor from the get go. I didn’t need to hear Simon’s crude remarks about him. And Taylor didn’t need to hear them either because he was already a good singer long before Simon bit him with crude remarks. The same goes for Clay in the second season. I voted for him. He won the CD sales even though Ruben won the AI show. If someone has a great voice people will listen.
You do realize that these people who we see on the show that are auditioning for Simon, Randy and Paula, already auditioned for the producers right? Do you realize what that means? The producers of the show just put them on TV so that they can boost their ratings. I’m glad I don’t have a Neilson box. They want all of us to see how the judges can be vicious to some of these contestants who audition. They want to get a laugh from some of these people that audition. That is just crude and is not necessary for making a star.
The opposite of nice doesn’t have to be totally and completely vicious and brutal. They can be honest and not too nice at the same time. Being too nice would not be real and they would be doing a disservice to the people who are auditioning. But that doesn’t mean they have to be brutal.
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davy39
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I do too, I’ve never watched it, ever.
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BlazingBolt
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I will only watch sometimes before they get to Hollywood. I find it mildly fascinating and amusing and then when they get to Hollywood it is just boring and the singers are not that good and often are way over the top, over glorified, and over hyped. Idol?, we don’t need no stinking Idols, we can find enough false ones on our own. It is amazing how so many people with absolutely no talent are convinced they are great and are destined for stardom, as if stardom was worth a darn thing or worthy of aspiring to. In my opinion, if it wasn’t for this “hook” in the beginning of the show it would have been a failure in season one as there were shows like it before.
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Ahimsa
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It’s idolatry.
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Gertabelle
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Speaking as a music teacher, a pianist, a classically trained coloratura mezzosoprano (opera), a folk singer (Celtic), and a mom, I feel quite confident in telling you that allowing your children to listen to an ecclectic selection of music from the time they are in the womb will not damage in the slightest their later ability to read or perform music.
Ear training is just that - training! This pamphlet just sounds like one more attempt at creating the “perfect” child. Hogwash! Sing to your children. Dance with your children. Make music with your children. Recite nursery rhymes with your children. Do hand clap games with your children. Rock and bounce your children. Listen to any kind of music with your children that makes you all happy.
Later, if your children want to sing or play an instrument, get them into a group and let the training begin. Before that, for heaven’s sake, just play and have fun!
Gertie
(who was raised with Mariachi, country, the Beatles, hard rock, etc., and sang poorly with the radio every chance I got - but I still make music performance, composition, and instruction my livelihood!)
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Shoshana
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[SIGN]I do sometimes also-]/-][/SIGN]
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Rebecca_New
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Sarcasm breeds contempt.
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bones_IV
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Show is worthless and quite frankly it’s pure entertainment. And I have no use for it.
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Cat
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I’ll stick my foot in it.
I sense a lot of pride here.
So you have “better things to do.” We all do. I’ve been reading imitation of Christ and the impression I get is that anything other than prayer and praise is a waste of time.
I don’t agree with that. I believe that any human pursuit can be done to the glory of God. Certainly there are those called to a life of comtemplation and prayer. But not all of have that calling.
So it’s a “waste of time.” LIke I said above.
So it’s “idolatry.” In what way? Is listening to human singers and applauding them “idolatry?” The term “idol” in entertainment has a different meaning than the Biblical meaning. It means “stardom.”
Of course, maybe some of you believe that “stardom” is a bad thing. I don’t. No show business personality would be where they are if God didn’t allow them to be there, and I believe God puts some people on the path to stardom because in His wisdom, He knows that this is the way that will bring those people to Him.
Like I said, I sense some pride here. If you don’t watch television or certain shows, fine. If you think certain television shows are evil or immoral, fine. (I respect, although I disagree, with those of you who say that the Idol judges should tone it down.)
But it’s not fine when you imply condemnation of others for enjoying a certain pursuit.
Maybe if I express your comments a different way, you would understand my meaning better. “I think gardening is an utter waste of time. It costs a ton of money, and who cares, really, what your YARD looks like. It’s just a way of showing off.”
Or try this one. “I think that decorating a home is an utter waste of time. Costs a fortune and in the end, it won’t matter whether your drapes were custom or purchased from a K-Mart. Spend your money and your time doing a more worthwhile activity.”
I don’t really mean those things (although I do think that many people go way overboard on gardening). But this is what it sounds like to me when you say such things about a television show that is neither indecent or immoral.
I sense a lot of pride here.
So you have “better things to do.” We all do. I’ve been reading imitation of Christ and the impression I get is that anything other than prayer and praise is a waste of time.
I don’t agree with that. I believe that any human pursuit can be done to the glory of God. Certainly there are those called to a life of comtemplation and prayer. But not all of have that calling.
So it’s a “waste of time.” LIke I said above.
So it’s “idolatry.” In what way? Is listening to human singers and applauding them “idolatry?” The term “idol” in entertainment has a different meaning than the Biblical meaning. It means “stardom.”
Of course, maybe some of you believe that “stardom” is a bad thing. I don’t. No show business personality would be where they are if God didn’t allow them to be there, and I believe God puts some people on the path to stardom because in His wisdom, He knows that this is the way that will bring those people to Him.
Like I said, I sense some pride here. If you don’t watch television or certain shows, fine. If you think certain television shows are evil or immoral, fine. (I respect, although I disagree, with those of you who say that the Idol judges should tone it down.)
But it’s not fine when you imply condemnation of others for enjoying a certain pursuit.
Maybe if I express your comments a different way, you would understand my meaning better. “I think gardening is an utter waste of time. It costs a ton of money, and who cares, really, what your YARD looks like. It’s just a way of showing off.”
Or try this one. “I think that decorating a home is an utter waste of time. Costs a fortune and in the end, it won’t matter whether your drapes were custom or purchased from a K-Mart. Spend your money and your time doing a more worthwhile activity.”
I don’t really mean those things (although I do think that many people go way overboard on gardening). But this is what it sounds like to me when you say such things about a television show that is neither indecent or immoral.
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a_priori
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This posting saved me a lot of typing. It is exactly on target.
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aimee
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wjp984
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While you are entitled to your opinion here is what I think. It sure seems like the Catholics on here do the same thing with people. Oh this prerson is so terrible beacause he or she missed mass or so and had premarital sex and still claims to be Catholic. Oh, why hasn’t the bishop excommunicated so and so and look at all these horrible caferteria Catholics etc. It is the same thing on the show. If you are going to get on that show and make a fool of yourself you deserve to be ridiculed and it is a competition and sometimes the truth hurts. Although I have no interest in trying out for the show I bet I could get at least to the second round, but you know what. I also might be told you are decent but not quite good enough and I would then act respectful, thank the judges, and leave without being made fun of. The ones that get ridiculed ask for it.
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DWPC
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How can you reconcile that statement with Christ’s teachings?
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sea_oat
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The strange thing is that some of the people who get ridiculed catch some kind of 15 minutes of fame. The guy Simon called a “bush baby” has appeared on television several times now, and, according to the USA Today, is receiving offers. Then there was the whole bizarre William Hung thing.
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