Two women accused Herman Cain of inappropriate behavior

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I’m sure we’ve all heard this many times. Serial killers have gone to the gas chamber with friends, loved ones, and co-workers clinging to their heels insisting that it is impossible that they could’ve done it. I find testimonies about one’s personality thus to be the laest persuasive kind of evidence.

Your logic is quite profoundly flawed, I must say that. First, it wasn’t “the democrats” who accused him, so blaming them is truly a pitiful excuse for an argument. Secondly, that you like his singing voice is not only utterly impertinent, it has no bearing at all on whether he did harass anyone or not. I may think Ted Bundy has a charming smile, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t kill three dozen women…
Wow, so Herman Cain now ranks with the likes of Ted Bundy. No, there’s no attempt to destroy him. I guess the Obama campaign is deathly afraid that their one and only strategy they have available will fail if Cain runs.
The National Restaurant Association , according to NBC, paid out a settlement to one of the accusers while he was its head: firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/31/8563824-nbc-confirms-one-cain-accuser-received-cash-settlement

It is certainly debatable what the significance of it is. Cain claims not to have known about the settlement. It is within the realm of possibility that he didn’t, and that they merely made settlement, without his assent, to avoid the negative publicity that would come regardless of whether he was guilty or not. It is also, of course, within the realm of possibility that he may be lying.
Or not…
 
We can only know of these people, politicians and candidates, what they put before us in public. I wouldn’t portend to know any of them well enough to truly judge whether or not he or she is capable having done something wrong. I don’t trust aqnyone’s stage personality to exonerate them. One can only wait to see what the evidence, as much or little as there is, says about it.
Yes, we should wait and see what comes out instead of jumping to conclusions. So far the evidence is zilch. Those that are jumping on the band wagon to put down Cain at this point, how ready would they be if the accused were a Democrat? In some cases, I think not at all.
 
I agree with those that suggest there is a coordinated attack on Cain, but its not being coordinated by the Dems. They would LOVE to see Cain as the nominee. It is being coordinated by Rove and his pals, who are fighting to see a mainline establishment GOPer as the nominee. Notice that the story about Cain’s campaign receiving illegal financial assistance hit the same day that the harrassment story hit? This the “Architect” at work.
 
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Wow, so Herman Cain now ranks with the likes of Ted Bundy. No, there’s no attempt to destroy him. I guess the Obama campaign is deathly afraid that their one and only strategy they have available will fail if Cain runs.
SamH, how remarkably predictable. Go get your dictionary, in the A-section, look up the word ‘analogy,’ and read it a few times.

Here, since you are incapable of comprehending figurative speech. I’ll say it explicitly: because someone says, ‘he’s a nice guy who wouldn’t do that,’ does not, in fact, prove that he did not do it. Nor singing a nice song, or having a nice smile, or being able to read a nice poem, or write a nice letter, mean he he is incapable of having done what he is accused of doing. It is an obvious appeal to the pathos. That people would swoon over it is both unsurprising and disappointing.

Secondly, I am not a representative, employee, volunteer, or supporter of the campaign to reelect Barack Obama. I’m sorry if you are so paranoid as not to believe me, but I can only say it so many times. Furthermore, as I mentioned in the last post ‘the Democrats,’ did not accuse Cain of molesting them. Barack Obama did not accuse Cain of molesting him. Two women accused Cain of molesting him, and it is *their *accusations that are being covered in the news. Again, get over your paranoia and reenter reality, ok?
Or not…
The ‘or not’ was the first part of the paragraph, which I suppose you just didn’t read. It doesn’t matter I suppose, since you are already convinced that it is impossible that he may have actually done what he is accused of having done. Why? Because you agree with him, and apparently you think no one who you agree with could possibly do something so wrong. That’s all I can deduce from you post. I make no claims that he is guilty, I said there insufficient evidence to know one way or the other. Yet you and so many others have convinced yourselves that it is impossible, for no other reason than 1) that you like him, 2) that his tax policy would save you money, or 3) that you like his singing voice.

Now, if you don’t see why those ‘arguments’ are devoid of logic, then I’m sorry, but I just won’t bother to explain basic logic to you. I imagine it would be a waste of time anyway.
 
Just finished reading This is Herman Cain. I really love his story- he talks extensively about his family so they are no secret to anyone, they just are not yet in the limelight by choice. I am praying this is truly all baseless and I agree that settlement does not imply guilt. I am reserving judgement until now and I also have not yet decided who I am supporting in 2012 other than not Obama:)

Blessings,

Val
 
Yes, we should wait and see what comes out instead of jumping to conclusions. So far the evidence is zilch. Those that are jumping on the band wagon to put down Cain at this point, how ready would they be if the accused were a Democrat? In some cases, I think not at all.
Well, the very same Republicans who are now insisting with unwavering certainty that McCain is innocent would be crying in indignation if the one accused were a Democrat. That’s the way people are I guess. They don’t apply their standards to people they like.

Yes, though, there is no conclusion that can be drawn at the moment. Accusations are just accusations, not necessarily falsities nor necessarily proof/
 
SamH, how remarkably predictable. Go get your dictionary, in the A-section, look up the word ‘analogy,’ and read it a few times.
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I searched with your name attached Google came back with:

hy·per·bo·le
   /haɪˈpɜrbəli/ Show Spelled[hahy-pur-buh-lee] Show IPA
noun Rhetoric.
  1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
  2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
Then the words Fallacious Argument popped up…
 
Well, the very same Republicans who are now insisting with unwavering certainty that McCain is innocent would be crying in indignation if the one accused were a Democrat.
True. If this were a democrat we’d simply argue that it didn’t matter…
 
Coulter rips Cain allegations: liberals are terrified of ‘strong, conservative black men:’

dailycaller.com/2011/10/30/coulter-rips-cain-allegations-liberals-are-terrified-of-strong-conservative-black-men/

Rush Limbaugh took up the Herman Cain story today. He opened his broadcast by pointing out that,

None of us should be surprised . . . look how quickly the mainstream media goes for the ugliest, racial stereotypes they can to attack a black conservative . . . Herman Cain is somebody. Herman Cain is obviously making some people nervous for this kind of thing to happen.​

One of Rush’s key points centered on the differences in treatment of Herman Cain and Bill Clinton. He pointed out that, “if this were about Clinton, the Left would be circling the wagons. This story is a joke that can only be appreciated by Clinton.” While “[Herman Cain is accused of] physical gestures which were not overly sexual but made women uncomfortable . . . during the 1992 Presidential campaign, there were all sorts of bimbos who were claiming that Clinton had done things to them, like rape, not just made overtly sexual gestures . . . these women were silenced.”

Rush illustrated the hypocrisy in the different approaches by the media regarding this issue by postulating how it would treat a similar allegation against President Obama:
  • What would the Left be doing right now if there was an assault on Obama of this nature? They would be going after these women; they would name names, and destroy them. They would call these women racists for trying to destroy a black politician; they would claim they were working for the Republican National Committee, that they were hired by the Republican National Committee to destroy Obama. They would claim they were the bad guys. . . . This is war, and that’s how they fight it. Anything goes, as far as they’re concerned. They can’t allow a black or Hispanic to rise to the top.*
    nationalreview.com/media-blog/281726/rush-cains-alleged-sexual-harassment-nathaniel-botwinick
MRC’s Bozell: Herman Cain Predicted a “High-Tech Lynching;” Sadly, It’s Come True:

mediaresearch.org/press/releases/2011/20111031121524.aspx
 
Cain is only out for monied interests. He’s no friend of the poor or middle class judging his tax plan.
 
For the rest of his talk, Cain steered clear of even hinting at the *Politico *story. Then came the question-and-answer session. Cain, with a thin grin, declared that he would “be delighted to clear the air” when the moderator mentioned the flap. “We are not going to chase anonymous sources, when there is no basis for the accusation,” he said, blasting the “witch hunt.”

“I have never sexually harassed anyone,” he added.

We thought he was finished. Cain, without raising an eyebrow, had answered questions. The Q-and-A was over. But the moderator had one last query: He asked Cain, a longtime Gospel singer, for a tune. Cain paused briefly, mulling, then shuffled back to the podium

The audience loved it — even the journalists, many of whom couldn’t hide smiles. Cain is under fire, to be sure, and song is by no means a political strategy. But Block, sitting a step away, didn’t intervene; he sat back and looked on. And Cain, his hands gripping the podium, burst into a few verses of one of his favorites — “He Looked Beyond My Faults.”

“Amazing Grace will always be my song of praise,” Cain sang, his rich baritone filling the room. “I do not know just why He came to love me so. He looked beyond my faults and saw my need.”

After a few more bars, he finished, dipped his head as the cheers rang, then pumped his fist in the air. More media hits, with Fox News and others, awaited. But on the toughest afternoon of his presidential journey, Cain left the event a fighter — and a singer, belting grace under fire.
nationalreview.com/articles/281777/grace-under-fire-robert-costa?pg=2

There’s a bit of Reagan in this guy.
 
Herman Cain has been playing fair. This report is nothing more than an underhanded trick by the liberals to attack an honorable man. Besides, we’ve all failed. Who claims to have no sin? No one. So let’s play fair; according to our tenets of chivalry, and Christian virtues.

-MontChevalier
Chivalry? Liberals? :rotfl:
 
Cain is only out for monied interests. He’s no friend of the poor or middle class judging his tax plan.
Pork Roll, I completely and totally agree with you. Did you know that in Cain’s campaign, his workers are forbidden to talk to him unless he talks to them first? That is a man of the people? And he is giving us a gift with 999? He is giving us a brand new tax - a national sales tax, to be added to whatever you are paying in your home state. I would be paying about 18%. And we’re suppose to believe that once this new tax is in place, it is never going to be raised. Yea, right.

I really don’t know why anyone is supporting him. As I’ve posted earlier, he was head of the Federal Reserve in Kansas City, and he was a lobbyist in D.C. And as far as these accusations are concerned, it’s hard to believe there is no fire where there seems to be so much smoke.

But it really doesn’t matter. All of this happened because it was time to take him out of the race so the “real” candidates can get in place, namely Romney or Perry (might as well be Obama. :()
 
I searched with your name attached Google came back with:

hy·per·bo·le
   /haɪˈpɜrbəli/ Show Spelled[hahy-pur-buh-lee] Show IPA
noun Rhetoric.
  1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
  2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
Then the words Fallacious Argument popped up…
Oh my! Funny!👍
 
I am not so sure why people are so quick to jump on the left for this one? I mean I get it, its a knee jerk reaction all the pundits on fox news tell you to do, but really what evidence is there that the left is behind this? I think there is just as strong a possibility that Romney, Perry, or any other Republican nominee is behind this.
 
All I’m going to say is I don’t know. Let the system handle it
 
I am not so sure why people are so quick to jump on the left for this one? I mean I get it, its a knee jerk reaction all the pundits on fox news tell you to do, but really what evidence is there that the left is behind this? I think there is just as strong a possibility that Romney, Perry, or any other Republican nominee is behind this.
Politico started out as a middle of the road site. However over the years has leaned more left of center. It’s blogs and many articles are very left leaning.

Having said that, my guess is one of the other Republican campaigns (either Bachmann’s or Perry’s) tipped them off. Romney needs Cain in the race so it wasn’t his campaign.
 
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