Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

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Two more women have come forward today to accuse Mr. Trump. I believe these courageous women.
 
Mulligan2 said:
Two more women have come forward today to accuse Mr. Trump. I believe these courageous women.
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Maybe he will say the same thing about these two new women that he said on Friday about the PEOPLE magazine reporter, Stoynoff: “Believe me, she would not be my first choice.”

Or as he said about her Thursday: “Take a look. You take a look. Look at her. And look at her words. And you tell me what you think. I don’t think so. I don’t think so.”

:rolleyes:
 
livnlern said:
So many people just keep letting the mass media lead them around by the nose. They follow along blindly, believing the media’s drivel instead of fighting back and thinking for themselves.
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So everyone is susceptible to propaganda except you and those that agree with you. Ironically, there could not be a better illustration of the power of propaganda than your statement.
 
mary_bobo said:
You don’t think that something like that would be too traumatic too forget?
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About 30 years ago I was molested by a stranger on a bus. I remember what I was wearing, I remember what he was wearing. I remember his hairstyle. I remember feeling too scared to even scream. But I have no clue what type of bus it was.
 
Let’s say it’s all true. Would you change your vote?

A lot of “great” men including presidents have had, um, less than admirable private lives but in the “good” old days the press ignored their transgressions or actively helped to cover them up.

So what do we do? Our candidates are just as sinful as we are, probably more so since the temptations for powerful people are probably greater. If we want candidates to be spotless we’re bound to be disappointed.
 
Honestly, we can go back and forth on this topic all day but not get closer to the truth.

It’s the classic he said/she said. These allegations are difficult (if not impossible) to either prove or disprove. Someone is lying. It’s either Trump or all these women who have come forward. I certainly wouldn’t fault someone for thinking that Trump is the one doing the lying, but it remains just speculation.

Can I imagine that Trump really did these things and that these women are all just coming forward now because they feel more safe to do so in numbers? Yes.

Can I imagine that political opponents or attention-seekers would fabricate stories in order to shift the election. Yes, I can imagine that, too.

The one thing all this has done for me is make me much more open to voting third party.
 
Sophie_Lawrence said:
About 30 years ago I was molested by a stranger on a bus. I remember what I was wearing, I remember what he was wearing. I remember his hairstyle. I remember feeling too scared to even scream. But I have no clue what type of bus it was.
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As a victim of sexual assault and the brother of a sister who was sexually assaulted as well I can attest to this. Couldn’t tell you the day it happened, what the weather that day was like, etc… but I still remember in vivid detail the act and my feelings about it then and now. My sister is the same way.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Honestly, we can go back and forth on this topic all day but not get closer to the truth.

It’s the classic he said/she said. These allegations are difficult (if not impossible) to either prove or disprove. Someone is lying. It’s either Trump or all these women who have come forward. I certainly wouldn’t fault someone for thinking that Trump is the one doing the lying, but it remains just speculation.

Can I imagine that Trump really did these things and that these women are all just coming forward now because they feel more safe to do so in numbers? Yes.

Can I imagine that political opponents or attention-seekers would fabricate stories in order to shift the election. Yes, I can imagine that, too.

The one thing all this has done for me is make me much more open to voting third party.
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If the Bill Cosby situation tells us anything it’s that this is very much the case in situations like this with powerful entertainers. It takes someone poking a hole in the dam before the allegations come flooding out. Was the hole being poked exploited by the Democratic Party for Clinton’s gain, I’ve no doubt. But that doesn’t negate that the dam appears to have burst on Trump just as it did on Cosby.
 
didymus said:
Let’s say it’s all true. Would you change your vote?

A lot of “great” men including presidents have had, um, less than admirable private lives but in the “good” old days the press ignored their transgressions or actively helped to cover them up.

So what do we do? Our candidates are just as sinful as we are, probably more so since the temptations for powerful people are probably greater. If we want candidates to be spotless we’re bound to be disappointed.
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I agree … it is said that FDR and LBJ had many affairs … FDR died in the presence of one of his mistresses … John Kennedy had lots of affairs - even with Marilyn Monroe - No one is gasping at this …

If Bill Clinton and his Oval Office antics was redeemable and he can still campaign and get paid hundreds of thousands of $$s for speeches and speak on national policy - … then why is it not possible for Trump to move beyond his past boorish behavior? …

AND no one addresses the Lion of the Senate - Ted Kennedy… who managed to kill one of his conquests - left the scene of an accident - failed to report the accident and failed to attempt to get any assistance to the young lady he wanted to have sex with. He was known for abusing women - doing every thing Trump is accused of doing and said on the tape … and yet was repeatedly voted into office to the Senate …

Why should not Trump be able to move beyond his ignoble past … is it just because he is running against Hilary and he has an** R** after his name and not a D?..

This is not a case of they did it first … its a matter of when does this stuff matter? The world knew Bill was womanizer before he was elected the first time - so he was elected twice with the same antics Trump has leveled against him … with the plurality of the Catholic Vote … Kennedy in addition to being a cad killed someone and was re-elected multiple times with the Catholic vote …

And many here are throwing stones at how Catholics have thrown their faith and principals away to vote for Trump …

I have news for you - the current occupant of the White House is the most anti-Catholic and pro-Abortion president we have had and he won by winning the Catholic vote … if Hilary wins - she will be even more anti-Catholic and pro-Abortion than Obama - she will do so by winning a plurality of the Catholic Vote … and don’t forget that Bill vetoed the Ban on Partial Birth Abortion TWICE …and he won by winning the Catholic Vote …

At least Trump says he will operate his presidency from a pro-life position … and I find it unlikely that any Intern will be at risk in the Oval office or any where else from him … and I do believe that people can change -
 
Vanny said:
These allegations may not change the minds of his base, or those of us who realize what’s at stake in this election and realize we must vote for him.
But unfortunately, I think that these allegations against Trump, true or not, are going to cause a lot of people, especially women, to either stay home, or cast a vote for Hillary or a third party candidate.
So I think ,unless things turn around quickly, we got Hillary on November 9th.😦
He already is not that popular with women and minorities as it is.
And unfortunately, the Republican party will be in disarray then, as their will be a lot of " I told you so’s, ect.😦
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Some are calling for a repeal of the 19th Amendment due to Trumps poor polling with women. I mean the constitution must be flawed, it couldn’t possibly be Trump that’s flawed.

Trump Supporters Call for Repealing Women’s Suffrage After Poll Shows Men Support Him in a Landslide

I’m sure this will sway the women’s vote to Trump. :rolleyes:
 
YADA said:
You forgot the rest of Hilary’s talking points and attacks …

We would be labeled as “Trailer Park Trash”
We would be labeled a “Bimbo”
We would be identified with the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy”

and the Number One Accusation

Too stupid to know that Oral sex is not really sex at all …

If Bill Clinton was redeemable and still able to garner the national stage and speak on policy - he is … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Ted Kennedy can not only be a serial “octopus” and partaker of waitress sandwiches and responsible for the death of one of his female playthings and still be elected repeatedly to Congress … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Barack Obama can parade his 'flag" before a plane full of women egging them on with video that was kept off the nightly news and get elected … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …
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:thumbsup:yes the hypocrisy and feigned outrage is glaring:rolleyes:
 
Mulligan2 said:
Two more women have come forward today to accuse Mr. Trump. I believe these courageous women.
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This must be one of the women:
A former contestant on the Apprentice, Summer Zervos, on Friday accused Donald Trump of groping or aggressively kissing her on two separate occasions in 2007, when she met Trump in private for what she thought were going to be discussions about job opportunities.
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Often speaking through tears, Zervos read a prepared statement in the Los Angeles offices of her lawyer, Gloria Allred.
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theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/donald-trump-summer-zervos-apprentice-sexual-assault
 
Meanwhile we can expect anothe WiKi leaks bomb over the weekend.Will anyone be paying attention?Oh wait,better to focus on Trumps’ issues than focus on issues that will affect the safety and wellbeing of our country,nothing to see there…:mad:
 
YADA said:
Gloria Allred … :rolleyes: … yep its been a while since she has had 15 minutes of fame and a high profile case …
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Exactly.Whenever I hear her name assciated with any kind of grievance against a public figure I immediately think Jerry Springeresque in content:rolleyes:
 
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