Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

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Ridgerunner said:
That’s your belief, and you’re entitled to believe what you want. But we all know at least some of the moderators are in cahoots with the Clinton organization, and we know for sure that the mainstream media coordinates with the Clinton attacks on Trump. Trump was set up for that. The Dems had those women in the wings all along. Never mind that they are just now making the claim after 15 or 30 years, and that some of them don’t make sense.

Podesta’s emails came out and all of a sudden the NYT suddenly “discovered” these women. It’s a crock. They had them in the wings all along for the right moment to deflect from some Clnton scandal.

And that’s my belief. But my further belief is that a campaign that would attack my religion will do anything, without limitation.
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Spot on!All this brouhaha surrounding Trump is solely for the purpose of deflectiong attention away from the very indicting and damaging Clinton emails and tapes being leaked.:mad:
 
Ridgerunner said:
Podesta’s emails came out and all of a sudden the NYT suddenly “discovered” these women.
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It’s hard to say which came first, the discovery of the damaging video of that bus or planned release of the emails. In any event, the women came forward after they heard DT deny acting on what he was telling Bush (and Stern). The release of the emails may have been planned for later, who knows?

But if the intent was to show that DT acted on his words but he said he denied the actions, then what are we to believe about his campaign promises? All talk and no action? Hmmm.
 
The purpose of this is to distract from crimes against humanity committed by Clinton.

And the distraction is highly effective, because people lose themselves and get caught up in these arguments.

Which are useful, because people simply angrily sit in front of their screens, as opposed to actually doing anything in the real world.

I suppose if it came out that Trump had paid for or forced his women to have abortions, there would be even more of an angry debate. 🤷

It’s very foolish for us to be surprised by any of this, though. We know the quality of these two candidates, and politicians in general.
 
Per speeches today - Michelle Obama is on the war path - Trump is such a horrible person - why she just can’t believe what he is teaching our young people about how to treat women and minorities - and well just everyone … :eek: we have to keep him out of the White House to save the children , - GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

Well Michelle - Let me tell you what my children learned when Hillary’s husband was in the White House - They learned that a man can be a serial adulterer and people will still say he a wonderful President … My children learned that on Easter Sunday you can have sex with a very young woman in the Oval Office, use a cigar as a sex toy in the process and still get to Church for the photo op with the wife and daughter -

Heck, most of us - red neck backwards Catholics just go to church and watch the kids hunt for Easter eggs 🤷 … We also learned that the President and his wife can go on National TV and lie about this and accuse others of trying to intentionally malign them … but as I said - my kids learned that the President lied and dis-respected the entire nation … but people still defended him. Oh yes … and my kids learned that Oral Sex was not really sex … :mad:

You and Barack have also taught us lessons … like you can be indicted for kidnapping and assault and still get invited to the White House - was that because Rick Ross did such a terrific job with that song - you know the one with the lyrics about spiking someones drink [isn’t that how date rape drugs are used? Rick Ross]. Or how about the poetry of Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr - you know - he is the guy that sings about killing a former President [Bush] and killing Cops … Me - I have not listened willingly to Rap Music - but we had a neighbor whose son did … Common lyrics included “fing yo momma” and “Fing yo sistah” and “Fing yo ho” along with common themes of killing cops and doing drugs … - so I am not persuaded by your indignation about the antics of Trump - real or imagined 😦 You have invited people into the White House who provide assaulting women with ‘words’ for entertainment … and act like you never heard any such talk … 🤷 …

Oh … and Michelle did you watch the video of Barack on the plane parading his ‘flag’? What did you think of that?
 
YADA said:
Per speeches today - Michelle Obama is on the war path - Trump is such a horrible person - why she just can’t believe what he is teaching our young people about how to treat women and minorities - and well just everyone … :eek: we have to keep him out of the White House to save the children , - GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

Well Michelle - Let me tell you what my children learned when Hillary’s husband was in the White House - They learned that a man can be a serial adulterer and people will still say he a wonderful President … My children learned that on Easter Sunday you can have sex with a very young woman in the Oval Office, use a cigar as a sex toy in the process and still get to Church for the photo op with the wife and daughter -

Heck, most of us - red neck backwards Catholics just go to church and watch the kids hunt for Easter eggs 🤷 … We also learned that the President and his wife can go on National TV and lie about this and accuse others of trying to intentionally malign them … but as I said - my kids learned that the President lied and dis-respected the entire nation … but people still defended him. Oh yes … and my kids learned that Oral Sex was not really sex … :mad:

You and Barack have also taught us lessons … like you can be indicted for kidnapping and assault and still get invited to the White House - was that because Rick Ross did such a terrific job with that song - you know the one with the lyrics about spiking someones drink [isn’t that how date rape drugs are used? Rick Ross]. Or how about the poetry of Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr - you know - he is the guy that sings about killing a former President [Bush] and killing Cops … Me - I have not listened willingly to Rap Music - but we had a neighbor whose son did … Common lyrics included “fing yo momma” and “Fing yo sistah” and “Fing yo ho” along with common themes of killing cops and doing drugs … - so I am not persuaded by your indignation about the antics of Trump - real or imagined 😦 You have invited people into the White House who provide assaulting women with ‘words’ for entertainment … and act like you never heard any such talk … 🤷 …

Oh … and Michelle did you watch the video of Barack on the plane parading his ‘flag’? What did you think of that?
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Re: the bolded. I saw that yesterday. :eek:
 
YADA said:
Per speeches today - Michelle Obama is on the war path - Trump is such a horrible person - why she just can’t believe what he is teaching our young people about how to treat women and minorities - and well just everyone … :eek: we have to keep him out of the White House to save the children , - GIVE ME A BREAK :rolleyes:

Well Michelle - Let me tell you what my children learned when Hillary’s husband was in the White House - They learned that a man can be a serial adulterer and people will still say he a wonderful President … My children learned that on Easter Sunday you can have sex with a very young woman in the Oval Office, use a cigar as a sex toy in the process and still get to Church for the photo op with the wife and daughter -

Heck, most of us - red neck backwards Catholics just go to church and watch the kids hunt for Easter eggs 🤷 … We also learned that the President and his wife can go on National TV and lie about this and accuse others of trying to intentionally malign them … but as I said - my kids learned that the President lied and dis-respected the entire nation … but people still defended him. Oh yes … and my kids learned that Oral Sex was not really sex … :mad:

You and Barack have also taught us lessons … like you can be indicted for kidnapping and assault and still get invited to the White House - was that because Rick Ross did such a terrific job with that song - you know the one with the lyrics about spiking someones drink [isn’t that how date rape drugs are used? Rick Ross]. Or how about the poetry of Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr - you know - he is the guy that sings about killing a former President [Bush] and killing Cops … Me - I have not listened willingly to Rap Music - but we had a neighbor whose son did … Common lyrics included “fing yo momma” and “Fing yo sistah” and “Fing yo ho” along with common themes of killing cops and doing drugs … - so I am not persuaded by your indignation about the antics of Trump - real or imagined 😦 You have invited people into the White House who provide assaulting women with ‘words’ for entertainment … and act like you never heard any such talk … 🤷 …

Oh … and Michelle did you watch the video of Barack on the plane parading his ‘flag’? What did you think of that?
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This is right on the money!Great post:thumbsup:
 
Inisfallen said:
“Crimes against humanity”?

Wow, this just keeps escalating.
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I’m not sure what you mean. She’s responsible for war crimes committed across Latin America and the Middle East, primarily Libya.

But rather than focus on a war criminal we’re supposed to be shocked that a womanizer objectifies women.

Which is about as shocking as discovering that a frat boy drinks to excess.

And when a twelve year old girl is raped so hard that she’s in a coma for five days and becomes infertile for life, and defense attorney Clinton attacks her saying she wanted it, and who then goes on to destroy evidence, blood and semen soaked panties, and afterward is recorded on audio tape laughing about it, well, some idiotic media ruse has to be created and relentlessly drummed up to draw away attention…
 
NormW said:
Nothing better than dismissing sexual assault on a catholic forum.😦
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I’m not dismissing it. I just don’t believe it. This was far too handy. The left media is working hand in glove with the Clinton machine. We know they communicate. We know they have held onto other stories in order to deflect from some Clinton scandal. And some of it doesn’t even make sense.
 
Exiled_Child said:
And when a twelve year old girl is raped so hard that she’s in a coma for five days and becomes infertile for life, and defense attorney Clinton attacks her saying she wanted it, and who then goes on to destroy evidence, blood and semen soaked panties, and afterward is recorded on audio tape laughing about it, well, some idiotic media ruse has to be created and relentlessly drummed up to draw away attention…
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(emphasis added)

Now you’re accusing her of destroying evidence? Care to back that up?

Give us a citation. To something reliable. Like a transcript from the case.

Got anything? I expect nothing but silence.
 
Inisfallen said:
(emphasis added)

Now you’re accusing her of destroying evidence? Care to back that up?

Give us a citation. To something reliable. Like a transcript from the case.

Got anything? I expect nothing but silence.
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Please. :rolleyes: I couldn’t possibly care less what you expect, and your rudeness doesn’t faze me. Obviously she wasn’t convicted of destroying evidence or she would have gone to prison. The evidence went “missing” and no one can say categorically what happened to it. In my view, dirty tricks and dirty tactics were involved, but it should go without saying there’s no way to prove that. The way Clinton handled the case and abused the rape victim couldn’t have possibly been any sleazier.

Defend Clinton all you like, since Kathy Shelton wasn’t raped at all, merely “unlawfully fondled.”
 
Exiled_Child said:
Please. :rolleyes: I couldn’t possibly care less what you expect, and your rudeness doesn’t faze me. Obviously she wasn’t convicted of destroying evidence or she would have gone to prison. The evidence went “missing” and no one can say categorically what happened to it. In my view, dirty tricks and dirty tactics were involved, but it should go without saying there’s no way to prove that. The way Clinton handled the case and abused the rape victim couldn’t have possibly been any sleazier.
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Wait, even if she clearly destroyed the evidence, she still wouldn’t go to prison. Remember the blackberries and devices she used a hammer to destroy in the email crime? She’s a criminal and everyone knows it. Yet she won’t go to prison. She’s a clinton. The only people who can stop her are the voters. The court system won’t; neither will the FBI.
 
queenofheartscv said:
Wait, even if she clearly destroyed the evidence, she still wouldn’t go to prison. Remember the blackberries and devices she used a hammer to destroy in the email crime? She’s a criminal and everyone knows it. Yet she won’t go to prison. She’s a clinton. The only people who can stop her are the voters. The court system won’t; neither will the FBI.
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She wasn’t a Clinton at the time, but you may be right about the penalty for destruction of evidence.🤷

Destroying evidence in an attempt to free an especially brutal child rapist would seem to be a felony to me, but I don’t know.

It’s hypothetical anyway, as Inisfallen points out. And anyway, we can’t even talk about a rape because there was no conviction.

I do wish that this case was more widely known. To know this case is to know Hillary Clinton.
 
Exiled_Child said:
Please. :rolleyes: I couldn’t possibly care less what you expect, and your rudeness doesn’t faze me. Obviously she wasn’t convicted of destroying evidence or she would have gone to prison. The evidence went “missing” and no one can say categorically what happened to it. In my view, dirty tricks and dirty tactics were involved, but it should go without saying there’s no way to prove that. The way Clinton handled the case and abused the rape victim couldn’t have possibly been any sleazier.

Defend Clinton all you like, since Kathy Shelton wasn’t raped at all, merely “unlawfully fondled.”
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For Pete’s sake. As I’ve said here in this forum before, I’m not voting for Hillary Clinton for president. I didn’t vote for her for the Senate, in either of her races (I’m a New Yorker), whether in the primary or the general election.

I’m not *defending *Hillary Clinton. I’m objecting to the level to which the debate has sunk.

Because one opposes Hillary Clinton, it does *not *mean that one can throw the facts out the window. Facts are important. In the rape case under discussion, the prosecution mishandled the evidence. Not the defense, not Hillary Clinton (Hillary Rodham, then). It is not even remotely possible that she destroyed the evidence. It was in the possession of the prosecution.

Hillary Rodham acted as a court-appointed lawyer for an accused rapist. She did her job, as the canons of her profession require. A lawyer could actually be disbarred for representing his or her client less than zealously. She ended up getting a plea deal (not an acquittal) for her client.

The facts of this case are now widely and easily available to anyone. Reputable news outlets have gone over the transcripts and records of this case. There is no excuse for repeating the scurrilous fabrications of less-than-reputable non-news sources.
 
The speech by Michelle Obama today was very powerful. Very proud of our First Lady. 🙂
 
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