Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

[goout]

Most of us women who were groped by men in the 70’s, 80’s, and even 90’s didn’t tell anyone.

Why?

We would be accused of lying.
We would be accused of asking for it.
We would be branded as a whiner.
We would be accused of trying to bring someone down.
We would be accused of trying to be famous.
We would be accused of looking for attention.
We would be accused of not being team players.
We would be accused of being overly sensitive.

Sound familiar?

Fair enough.

But given that the stories and recordings are out there, there is no small amount of deceptive manipulation in the media’s timing of them.

Given that Trump is a moron and unfit to be president, and this information was available to nuke his candidacy, the media is complicit in this abomination. (of course HRC benefits, so that’s ok)

 

[Ridgerunner]

That one woman MAY be a fabrication. Doesn’t mean the rest are. And as for why now, he’s running for president that’s why and plenty of people are willing to believe her now where before most people would have taken Trump at face value if he said it was a lie.

I would say the one is also a lie in which Trump supposedly was told by a security guard not to enter a dressing room because the women inside were naked. If the door was closed, how would the security guard know that? Those women wouldn’t have gone in there, taken off their clothes and just stood around indefinitely.

 

[J_Peterson]

I agree that no one should be kissed or groped against their will. But do we know for a fact that he has done this, or, was he saying something with bravado to enhance his prowess with other males? And if you think Republicans get a pass on anything, perhaps you might consider enlarging your sources.

And as for the judges, I certainly hope there are enough Republicans to confirm the justices Trump has said he would nominate. I care to much about innocent life and some of the amendments that will be under attack if Hillary gets to make these choices.

This is what is frustrating about this. Trump said that he does x, y, and z. Women come forward and say that yes, Trump does in fact do x, y, and z. Normally this would be considered confirmation. Instead we hear that the women are lying. So we are left with either Trump is lying or he is a sexual abuser. The simplest explanation is that Trump was telling the truth and the women are telling the truth.

If Trump said that he secretly goes out at night to give homeless people blankets and then men and women come forward and say, yes he did that for me. Would people be as skeptical?

 

[Michael68]

That one woman MAY be a fabrication. Doesn’t mean the rest are. And as for why now, he’s running for president that’s why and plenty of people are willing to believe her now where before most people would have taken Trump at face value if he said it was a lie.

And there is the one lying about how he tried to kiss her during an interview.
And there is the one who said he groped her at a concert. Come to find out that concert event did not happen

 

[livnlern]

Most of us women who were groped by men in the 70’s, 80’s, and even 90’s didn’t tell anyone.

Why?

We would be accused of lying.
We would be accused of asking for it.
We would be branded as a whiner.
We would be accused of trying to bring someone down.
We would be accused of trying to be famous.
We would be accused of looking for attention.
We would be accused of not being team players.
We would be accused of being overly sensitive.

Sound familiar?

If being accused of “trying to bring someone down”, “looking for attention”, and “trying to be famous” are why a woman wouldn’t want to report a groping or grabbing, then why wait until she’d be on a national stage in order to do it against a presidential candidate? Their photos are on national TV. Wouldn’t that bring attention and an odd kind of fame? Something’s not right about the fact they’re doing this right now.

 

[J_Peterson]

I would say the one is also a lie in which Trump supposedly was told by a security guard not to enter a dressing room because the women inside were naked. If the door was closed, how would the security guard know that? Those women wouldn’t have gone in there, taken off their clothes and just stood around indefinitely.

Trump said that he did this years ago. What else did Trump say that you question the truth of? If only people put this much skepticism into everything he says we would probably have a viable candidate for the Republican ticket.

 

[YADA]

Most of us women who were groped by men in the 70’s, 80’s, and even 90’s didn’t tell anyone.

Why?

We would be accused of lying.
We would be accused of asking for it.
We would be branded as a whiner.
We would be accused of trying to bring someone down.
We would be accused of trying to be famous.
We would be accused of looking for attention.
We would be accused of not being team players.
We would be accused of being overly sensitive.

Sound familiar?

You forgot the rest of Hilary’s talking points and attacks …

We would be labeled as “Trailer Park Trash”
We would be labeled a “Bimbo”
We would be identified with the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy”

and the Number One Accusation

Too stupid to know that Oral sex is not really sex at all …

If Bill Clinton was redeemable and still able to garner the national stage and speak on policy - he is … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Ted Kennedy can not only be a serial “octopus” and partaker of waitress sandwiches and responsible for the death of one of his female playthings and still be elected repeatedly to Congress … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Barack Obama can parade his 'flag" before a plane full of women egging them on with video that was kept off the nightly news and get elected … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

 

[Michael68]

You forgot the rest of Hilary’s talking points and attacks …

We would be labeled as “Trailer Park Trash”
We would be labeled a “Bimbo”
We would be identified with the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy”

and the Number One Accusation

Too stupid to know that Oral sex is not really sex at all …

If Bill Clinton was redeemable and still able to garner the national stage and speak on policy - he is … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Ted Kennedy can not only be a serial “octopus” and partaker of waitress sandwiches and responsible for the death of one of his female playthings and still be elected repeatedly to Congress … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

If Barack Obama can parade his 'flag" before a plane full of women egging them on with video that was kept off the nightly news and get elected … then Trump should be able to move beyond his ignoble past …

When did this flag waving event happen?

 

[sallybutler]

If being accused of “trying to bring someone down”, “looking for attention”, and “trying to be famous” are why a woman wouldn’t want to report a groping or grabbing, then why wait until she’d be on a national stage in order to do it against a presidential candidate? Their photos are on national TV. Wouldn’t that bring attention and an odd kind of fame? Something’s not right about the fact they’re doing this right now.

So why are the wikileaks coming out right now? Haven’t they had months and years to put this information out? Or is wikileaks just trying to get more attention and money by doing it now?

No. Both sides are doing it because they think it is important to the nation and now is the last chance.

 

[J_Peterson]

When did this flag waving event happen?

I’m surprised you know what they’re talking about. What flag? What plane? What women? What year? What video?

 

[YADA]

When did this flag waving event happen?

I don’t know … it was posted in the last few days … I never saw it before

youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ

 

[signit]

The woman that said Trump groped her on the plane, doesn’t know what kind of plane it was and the DNC gave her the wrong info about Branniff airlines. Yep, this is all a fabrication

Right; it’s not fair to play “twenty questions” with somebody and expect them to remember all the details when it happened years ago

 

[Padres1969]

And there is the one lying about how he tried to kiss her during an interview.
And there is the one who said he groped her at a concert. Come to find out that concert event did not happen

Have any links to back those claims their false? Because everything I’m seeing runs counter to your claim.

 

[Michael68]

I don’t know … it was posted in the last few days … I never saw it before

youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ

Just watched it. Disturbing!

 

[sallybutler]

Right; it’s not fair to play “twenty questions” with somebody and expect them to remember all the details when it happened years ago

And to follow up on that, some of us don’t know a DC5 from a DC7 from a DC10 from a 737 from a 757.

I go by they have 2-3-2 or 2-5-2 or 2-3 or 1-2 seats in each row.

 

[Padres1969]

And to follow up on that, some of us don’t know a DC5 from a DC7 from a DC10 from a 737 from a 757.

I go by they have 2-3-2 or 2-5-2 or 2-3 or 1-2 seats in each row.

I always know the plane, but then I’m weird. What I don’t always remember is the airline. Unless it’s Southwest or Virgin they all kind of blur together for me as all I can remember is that they are terrible.

 

[J_Peterson]

I don’t know … it was posted in the last few days … I never saw it before

youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ

I’ve never seen that before. Apparently it’s been circulating since 2008 when someone used it to try and get more votes to Hillary. He doesn’t seem to be paying much attention to anyone other then the person on the phone. Not sure there’s any smoke there let alone a fire. You’ll need to find a tape of Obama admitting to sexual assault like they did with Trump in order to convince people he is secretly a lech. From all outward appearances he looks like the quintessential family man: one wife for life and two kids.

 

[Maximilan_Kolbe]

If you have an actual way to keep either of them out of the White House, by all means share. Otherwise, pick who you’d prefer the next US President be between the two of them, because it will be one of the two.

 

[tomarin]

If you have an actual way to keep either of them out of the White House, by all means share. Otherwise, pick who you’d prefer the next US President to be between the two of them, because it will be one of the two.

Reminds me of Scylla and Charybdis.

 

[Thorolfr]

Here’s something interesting from Albert Mohler who is the president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky and has been described as “one of America’s most influential evangelicals”:

Mohler himself is white, Southern and conservative, and he turns 57 next week. But — perhaps illustrating the perils of lumping all evangelicals together — he is also a teacher of preachers, widely respected as a theologian, and he made it abundantly clear that he opposes Trump.

Mohler told NBC News that his position is “Never Trump.” Much of his time over the past week has been spent fielding interview requests stemming from his widely quoted op-ed Oct. 9 in The Washington Post, in which he wrote: “Donald Trump is not just disqualified from being a Sunday school teacher. Honest evangelicals would not want him as a next-door neighbor.”

But when he puts on his scholar’s hat, Mohler said, he can understand how some evangelicals — repulsed by Clinton’s support for abortion rights and the likelihood that she would appoint Supreme Court justices considered antithetical to conservative religious principles — might be able to vote for Trump.

“It’s a binary choice,” he said.

Mohler said such evangelicals began voting for Republicans during the 1970s and 1980s, when the Moral Majority was all but synonymous with conservative Republicanism.

For them, he said, “it’s a deeply ingrained evangelical habit.”

But “what I can’t respect is evangelicals’ destroying the moral integrity of evangelicalism by making arguments that are morally indefensible,” he said — meaning political activists who explain away Trump’s behavior by invoking Christian forgiveness of sins he has apologized for. That’s an argument Trump’s vice presidential running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, made Wednesday.

And it’s a divide that could end up shattering the Republican Party’s historically reliable evangelical base, Mohler said.

“Personal integrity is very important,” especially for minority and younger evangelicals, he said. "The Republican Party can no longer count on the habit of evangelicals’ voting for the party’s nominee for president.

nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/what-s-behind-evangelical-support-donald-trump-less-you-think-n666146

I completely agree with Mohler when he says, “Donald Trump is not just disqualified from being a Sunday school teacher. Honest evangelicals would not want him as a next-door neighbor.”