Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

[Pier]

This is all interesting about Mr. Trump, but the fact is, there are only two candidates running for President which are going to win the Election.

But one major party Candidate supports appointing Pro-Life Justices to the U.S. Supreme Court, supports Religious Freedom, and said they would consider trying to reverse Gay Marriage.

Another major party Candidate said they fully support abortion on demand and murdering innocent unborn children and want it to be safe and legal and they dropped the “rare”; that Candidate fully supports Gay Marriage and is against protecting the private moral conscience of an individual versus the demands of other people who want that individual to perform an act that will fulfill a demand of their own or in their mind make them happy.

Those are the most important issues.

I’ll leave it to you to read the Party platforms and Candidate statements and watch the debates to determine which of the two descriptions above each of the two major Candidates fits in.

It’s that black and white and that simple.

Agreed…

One of them is going to get in. As a lifelong practicing Catholic, I realize that one of my responsibilities in this world is to give to Caesar. Well, we can elect our Caesar. And I am going to vote for the one who is not supporting a pro-abortion platform, among other obvious abominations that go against our Lord.

 

[Michael68]

Lets see, the one on the plane is debunked
The one at the concert is debunked
The dressing room debunked
The kiss during an interview debunked
The one who said it happened in a nightclub debunked . She even sent Trump a nice letter.
Hillary has failed!!! Apparently they didn’t know there were witnesses!

 

[mary_bobo]

I agree that too much attention and bad publicity have been given to Trump from the start of the campaign season, and not enough attention paid to the misconduct of Clinton. Maybe if Trump had received less publicity, he would not have been the GOP candidate in the first place. And if Clinton had received a little more attention, she, as well, would not have been the Democratic candidate. Although there would be less excitement, the country would have been far better off that way.

I think Trump got all the attention by the media in the beginning because he was the one candidate that Hillary did not fear. It comes out now that she feared Rubio the most. This whole election is tainted IMO and has been a nightmare.

 

[YADA]

Lets see, the one on the plane is debunked
The one at the concert is debunked
The dressing room debunked
The kiss during an interview debunked
The one who said it happened in a nightclub debunked . She even sent Trump a nice letter.
Hillary has failed!!! Apparently they didn’t know there were witnesses!

THIS

 

[randomuser]

I have news for you - the current occupant of the White House is the most anti-Catholic and pro-Abortion president we have had and he won by winning the Catholic vote … if Hilary wins - she will be even more anti-Catholic and pro-Abortion than Obama - she will do so by winning a plurality of the Catholic Vote … and don’t forget that Bill vetoed the Ban on Partial Birth Abortion TWICE …and he won by winning the Catholic Vote …

At least Trump says he will operate his presidency from a pro-life position … and I find it unlikely that any Intern will be at risk in the Oval office or any where else from him … and I do believe that people can change -

Trump has done irreparable damage to the pro-life cause. And no amount of pretzellian logic will bring back the pro-life voters who continue to flee the GOP ticket. If the “new” goal of what it mean to be pro-life is the appointment of SCOTUS nominees, then wouldn’t actual logic dictate that “Republican establishment” politicians are most likely to get that done?

 

[meltzerboy]

I think Trump got all the attention by the media in the beginning because he was the one candidate that Hillary did not fear. It comes out now that she feared Rubio the most. This whole election is tainted IMO and has been a nightmare.

We usually awaken from nightmares. Let’s at least hope so.

 

[exnihilo]

Yes, Trump should be assumed to be innocent until proven guilty. And likewise the word of his accusers should be taken to be a sincerely held belief until proven it is a fabrication. We should all be willing to wait for the truth to emerge and not judge prematurely.

I don’t know that the truth will ever emerge. The allegations are the type that can’t be proved or disproved with much certainty. One interesting aspect to this is that the claims of groping have all come out just one month prior to the election. With Bill Clinton the rumors and allegations were there from the beginning. Also with the claims against Trump we have people in the media who claim to have purposefully withheld evidence of bad conduct only to just now reveal it. There seems to be a common element of people willing to do business with Trump long after the supposed bad deeds who only now, this month, come forward. The claimants have very little credibility. I see no reason to think they should be believed.

 

[St_Francis]

Stars can do whatever they want to women.
I am a star.
Wink wink.

I walk into dressing rooms and they are standing there with no clothes on. I’m the owner. I can do what others can’t.

Trump may be innocent, but it seems like in the past he wanted to be seen as a bad boy, a player, and actively promoted that image.

Either he was a liar then or a liar now.

In the tape on the bus, the other guy is laughing throughout. I don’t think Trump was lying then, I think he was joking around. Even I have done that: I say something that makes others laugh, so I keep going. As a woman, of course, I’ve never said anything like that, but I have overheard men saying goofy stuff along those lines.

And you know what? That was the tail end of the conversation! It would not surprise me if the entire tape revealed that he was kidding around, do they edited it to show something different.

 

[randomuser]

Agreed…

One of them is going to get in. As a lifelong practicing Catholic, I realize that one of my responsibilities in this world is to give to Caesar. Well, we can elect our Caesar. And I am going to vote for the one who is not supporting a pro-abortion platform, among other obvious abominations that go against our Lord.

Is joking about assaulting women also an abomination? That’s a fairly obvious abomination which contradicts the notion that Republicans are all about “family values.”

 

[meltzerboy]

Is joking about assaulting women also an abomination? That’s a fairly obvious abomination which contradicts the notion that Republicans are all about “family values.”

Trump is hardly your typical Republican. But yes, members of both parties have been known to behave contrary to family values.

 

[Michael68]

Is joking about assaulting women also an abomination? That’s a fairly obvious abomination which contradicts the notion that Republicans are all about “family values.”

The murder of the unborn is a family value?

 

[randomuser]

The murder of the unborn is a family value?

Non sequitur.

It’s not “family values” to be joking about assaulting women and joking about STD’s/STI’s. If Trump’s not pro-life at all stages of life, including after the baby’s born – something Chris Christie, e.g., understands – then he’s not pro-life. Period.

 

[goout]

Is joking about assaulting women also an abomination? That’s a fairly obvious abomination which contradicts the notion that Republicans are all about “family values.”

Makes you wonder how to make decisions about these matters with so many variables.

Somehow we have to prioritize the values.
The CC recognizes the right to life as the highest value. It is the foundation of all other goods and rights.

If a person does not have the right to exist, then a conversation about how to feed them is kinda pointless, right? Who are you going to feed if there are not people with stomachs?

Attacks on innocent life should always be resisted. From there we have to prioritize issues. We also have a mandate to welcome the immigrant, feed the hungry, protect religious liberty, and so on. We can have good faith discussion about the best way to do these things.
When you have a discussion about murder it doesn’t take long to realize you are either standing up for the right to live or you are not.

An examination of party platforms gives an indication of where the parties stand on these issues. A responsible Catholic voter has to be informed.

 

[Michael68]

Non sequitur.

It’s not “family values” to be joking about assaulting women and joking about STD’s/STI’s. If Trump’s not pro-life at all stages of life, including after the baby’s born – something Chris Christie, e.g., understands – then he’s not pro-life. Period.

Ok, you’re doing some weird word gymnastics here! What are you getting at?

 

[exnihilo]

Is joking about assaulting women also an abomination? That’s a fairly obvious abomination which contradicts the notion that Republicans are all about “family values.”

I don’t know that Trump joked about sexually assaulting women. His comments were that being a star women will let you do anything. And I think that is very true for a significant number of women. Trump has certainly not lived a family values life. Most people in our country haven’t. The Republican Party is more about family values then the Democratic. That doesn’t mean that the politicians actually live a life of family values. Part of the narrative today is that because so many fail to live a life honoring family values we should abandon the concept altogether. That isn’t a reasonable conclusion, but it does appeal to our baser instincts.

 

[YADA]

Trump has done irreparable damage to the pro-life cause. And no amount of pretzellian logic will bring back the pro-life voters who continue to flee the GOP ticket. If the “new” goal of what it mean to be pro-life is the appointment of SCOTUS nominees, then wouldn’t actual logic dictate that “Republican establishment” politicians are most likely to get that done?

One of these two candidates will be president - either Hillary or Trump will appoint justices … Realistically - the “Republican Establishment” does not appoint justices , they don’t even vote on the nominees - elected officials do … some of which while Republican in affiliation are not necessarily “Republican Establishment” … they may affiliate with the Republican Party as it most closely aligns with their values … In fact, I am not sure that the “Republican Establishment” supports the party platform 100% …

In 1995 and 1997 and 2003 Republicans passed the Partial Birth Abortion Ban - not the “Republican Establishment” … many of those republicans lost their seats at re-election directly because of their votes…

Trump has not done the pro-Life movement any harm … in fact the ability to move from a pro-abortion position to pro-Life is something to be celebrated …

I know pro-Life advocates who have done greater harm because they will take a hard line stance - never voting for someone who is not 100% pro-Life in every instance - so those politicians who would allow exemptions for rape, incest and life of the mother [note - Life - not health] go un-elected while 100% pro-abortion politicians get elected into office … now those three exceptions account for less than 1% of abortions in this country … That all of nothing stance not only hurts the pro-life movement - it consigns 99% to their death. And the longer our culture of death keeps its hold on the culture the harder it will be to change hearts and minds …

I also do not see pro-Life voters fleeing … I see and speak with and work with the pro-Life movement … we all know that the SCOTUS is vastly important … A Hillary win will see an attempt to over turn the decision that upheld the Partial Birth Abortion Ban and stack the Court for the next 30-40 years - that is two generations - in a pro-Abortion position … which will translate to death by Euthanasia and Physician Assisted Suicide …

That is not “pretzellian logic” - its a fact …

Clinton is anti-Catholic and pro-Abortion to the MAX … she is funded and backed by George Soros and will export Abortion around the globe and use our tax dollars to pay for them … that is what she outwardly promised - in no uncertain terms … Promised 100% and intend to deliver …

Tell me - What harm does Hillary do for the pro-Life movement? … and there are people here at CAF that say they are pro-Life but support her are you one of them?

Who is really 100% anti-life for the unborn? Clinton or Trump?

 

[randomuser]

Makes you wonder how to make decisions about these matters with so many variables.

Somehow we have to prioritize the values.
The CC recognizes the right to life as the highest value. It is the foundation of all other goods and rights.

If a person does not have the right to exist, then a conversation about how to feed them is kinda pointless, right? Who are you going to feed if there are not people with stomachs?

Attacks on innocent life should always be resisted. From there we have to prioritize issues. We also have a mandate to welcome the immigrant, feed the hungry, protect religious liberty, and so on. We can have good faith discussion about the best way to do these things.
When you have a discussion about murder it doesn’t take long to realize you are either standing up for the right to live or you are not.

An examination of party platforms gives an indication of where the parties stand on these issues. A responsible Catholic voter has to be informed.

One party was (past tense) all about “family values.”

No more.

Now, there’s no difference between the two – and, considering that same-sex marriage was legalized by a REPUBLICAN appointee – there’s very little guarantee that Trump’s “pro-life” SCOTUS list will magically overturn Roe v. Wade. Which, I get it, is supposed to be why we all should clamoring to vote for the guy.

 

[goout]

One party was (past tense) all about “family values.”

No more.

Now, there’s no difference between the two – and, considering that same-sex marriage was legalized by a REPUBLICAN appointee – there’s very little guarantee that Trump’s “pro-life” SCOTUS list will magically overturn Roe v. Wade. Which, I get it, is supposed to be why we all should clamoring to vote for the guy.

Decisions are difficult. Personalities are flawed and full of hypocrisy on both sides.
You still have to make a decision on some factor. Or you don’t vote I suppose, which is the worst solution.

What other issue should be at the top of your priority list?
Prosperity?
Right to marriage anytime anywhere?
Jobs?
Immigration?

All these are important, but you might notice these are all human issues involving real living people. The solutions to these problems assumes we have living human beings endowed with that basic right to live.
How can any other issue be paramount to it?

If you think there is one, what is it?

 

[Michael68]

One party was (past tense) all about “family values.”

No more.

Now, there’s no difference between the two – and, considering that same-sex marriage was legalized by a REPUBLICAN appointee – there’s very little guarantee that Trump’s “pro-life” SCOTUS list will magically overturn Roe v. Wade. Which, I get it, is supposed to be why we all should clamoring to vote for the guy.

No one is telling you to clamor! If you are pro-life only one candidate is yours. If you want to play word games, then the pro-death candidate was yours all along!

 

[YADA]

One party was (past tense) all about “family values.”

No more.

Now, there’s no difference between the two – and, considering that same-sex marriage was legalized by a REPUBLICAN appointee – there’s very little guarantee that Trump’s “pro-life” SCOTUS list will magically overturn Roe v. Wade. Which, I get it, is supposed to be why we all should clamoring to vote for the guy.

Really … So our Church was once all about sharing the Gospel and living the Beatitudes but no longer because we had the Clergy Sex Abuse Scandal , thus** No More** does the Catholic Church represent the Gospel Values of Jesus. There is no difference between the Catholic Church and the Secular Society

Think about that - because that is just what you wrote ,