Two Women Say Donald Trump Touched Them Inappropriately

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_Abyssinia said:
Regarding the dressing room, presuming you mean the story below, there are different women giving their recollection of events.
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No, actually, I was specifically referring to Trump’s own recollections of his behavior at the pageants…

“I’ll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed. No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it. … You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”
 
_Abyssinia said:
I saw somebody on twitter, on this forum, or elsewhere point out that what about innocent until proven guiltily? These cases, as far as I know and correct me if I am wrong, have not been reported to the police, Trump has not been charged with any crime in regards to these women, and these cases have not gone through court. They are serious allegations and I doubt anybody on this forum knows whether they are true or not for definite, but they are allegations, they have not been proven to have happened and Trump has strenuously denied the allegations the women have made, took place.

Regarding the dressing room, presuming you mean the story below, there are different women giving their recollection of events. Here are two of these women:

kob.com/politics-news/former-miss-nm-teen-refutes-buzzfeed-article-on-trump-/4290678/

m.facebook.com/AmyColleyTyson/posts/10101579013551556
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On the posts one woman gives her account of the 1997 event which, I believe, is the same as the accuser that’s been referred to and the other gives her account of a 2005 event.

I agree with innocent until proven guilty but Donald Trump won’t get any help in the court of public opinion with non-supporters with his previous comments like below.

“I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant, and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said.
 
exnihilo said:
I don’t know that the truth will ever emerge. The allegations are the type that can’t be proved or disproved with much certainty. One interesting aspect to this is that the claims of groping have all come out just one month prior to the election. With Bill Clinton the rumors and allegations were there from the beginning. Also with the claims against Trump we have people in the media who claim to have purposefully withheld evidence of bad conduct only to just now reveal it. There seems to be a common element of people willing to do business with Trump long after the supposed bad deeds who only now, this month, come forward. The claimants have very little credibility. I see no reason to think they should be believed.
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I wouldn’t have given them any credence what so ever, but… this is exactly what Trump said he did, and I do believe him. I formed an opinion of Trump the first time he impinged upon my consciousness, the sleaze and nastiness left an impression that he has only managed to make worse through out the years.
 
St_Francis said:
In the tape on the bus, the other guy is laughing throughout. I don’t think Trump was lying then, I think he was joking around. Even I have done that: I say something that makes others laugh, so I keep going. As a woman, of course, I’ve never said anything like that, but I have overheard men saying goofy stuff along those lines.

And you know what? That was the tail end of the conversation! It would not surprise me if the entire tape revealed that he was kidding around, do they edited it to show something different.
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The other guy was fired for his comments.
 
There is a new ABC/Post poll:
Two-thirds of registered voters say their preference is not affected by the release of an 11-year-old videotape in which Trump crudely described his sexual advances toward women. The one-third who say it makes them less apt to support him fit the profile of those who were unlikely to do so in the first place.
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At the same time, well fewer than half, 40 percent, accept Trump’s suggestion that he engaged in typical locker-room talk; 52 percent say he went beyond that (men and women alike). Just 38 percent think his apology for those comments is sincere. And 68 percent think Trump probably has made unwanted sexual advances toward women, which he’s denied.
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Other results of the poll:
But a tightening in Trump’s favor has halted, the poll finds, and other results suggest a shift in the dynamics of the race:
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• Enthusiasm for Trump among his supporters has subsided from 91 percent last month to 79 percent now, erasing his advantage over Clinton on this measure.
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Conversely, the share of Clinton supporters who say they might change their minds has dropped from 16 to 9 percent. Eighty-nine percent say they’re definitely for her, up 6 points.
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• Only 30 percent of registered voters say Trump has “strong moral character,” down 6 points from a Gallup poll (among all adults) last spring. Clinton does 15 percentage points better on this score, and her rating for moral character is up 6 points.
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• Views of Trump as honest and trustworthy have lost 8 points, dropping back from 42 percent of registered voters – a high for Trump – to 34 percent now. That eliminates the 9-point advantage on this key attribute he held over Clinton last month.
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• Just 34 percent say Trump has the personality and temperament it takes to serve effectively as president, flattening after peaking last month. Far more – 59 percent – rate Clinton positively on this measure.
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Pushback on the issue looks to be a challenge for Trump; 55 percent of registered voters say his treatment of women is a legitimate issue in the campaign. Far fewer are attuned to his counterattack: Just 30 percent say Bill Clinton’s treatment of women is a legitimate issue, and 34 percent say the same about Hillary Clinton’s response to her husband’s accusers.
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abcnews.go.com/Politics/enthusiasm-donald-trump-fades-partisanship-close-poll/story?id=42815332

So a majority (68%) think that Mr. Trump probably has made unwanted sexual advances toward women and that his apology was not sincere, 45% think Clinton has “strong moral character” whereas only 30% think the same of Mr. Trump. And those who think that Mr. Trump is “honest and trustworthy” have dropped from 42% to 34%.

And enthusiasm for Mr. Trump is down among his supporters from 91% to 79%. All in all, doesn’t look very good for Mr. Trump in the final stretch of the campaign.
 
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