U.S. bishops: Vote your conscience Catholics urged to weigh stands on all issues

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Based on this explanation - it leaves it open for those who feel that there are no candidates worthy to vote for:

Voting is a civic duty which would seem to bind at least under venial sin whenever a good candidate has an unworthy opponent.

I plan on voting, and I know who I am going to vote for - however - if another candidate would have won my parties nomination - my conscience would have told me not to vote - a vote for the “lesser of two evils” is still a vote for evil.
 
JB2VI said:
I meant to say: “If the building blocks are NOT there, there will be no respect for life at any stage.”

As to capital punishment, the Church allows the state to make that decision.
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Not completely true. Capital punishment is allowed only if there is no other way to protect society from someone. With today’s abilities to segregate prisoners in this country at least, there is no reason ever to kill someone in prison.
 
buffalo said:
U.S. bishops: Vote your conscience
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**[Catholics urged to weigh stands on all issues](http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1217390961251120.xml&coll=5)**
LAWRENCE – If you think you know how the Catholic Church in the United States wants its members to vote in the presidential election this year, think again.
Single-issue voting, like simply choosing the anti-abortion candidate, is out.

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This article was not written in a Catholic newspaper. It twists the truth to get good Catholics to think it is okay to vote for a pro-abortion candidate. It is not. This ‘reporter’s’ opinion should not count for anything for any good Catholic wanting guidance in how to vote. Catholic Answers puts out a great voting guide and it can be downloaded for free at caaction.com/pdf/Voters-Guide-Catholic-English-1p.pdf
 
Philothea53 said:
Not completely true. Capital punishment is allowed only if there is no other way to protect society from someone. With today’s abilities to segregate prisoners in this country at least, there is no reason ever to kill someone in prison.
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Actually - considering the violence that occurs in prisons - there is no way to totally protect society from the convicted.
 
Philothea53 said:
This article was not written in a Catholic newspaper. It twists the truth to get good Catholics to think it is okay to vote for a pro-abortion candidate. It is not. This ‘reporter’s’ opinion should not count for anything for any good Catholic wanting guidance in how to vote. Catholic Answers puts out a great voting guide and it can be downloaded for free at caaction.com/pdf/Voters-Guide-Catholic-English-1p.pdf
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Sigh. There’s no reasoning with some of the people on these boards.
 
Adonis33 said:
Actually - considering the violence that occurs in prisons - there is no way to totally protect society from the convicted.
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Well, you can discuss that all day but nonetheless our Bishops have said the death penalty is not an option except as I stated above. You can see the full Statement of the USCCB Calling for an End to the Use of the Death Penalty

The opening paragraphs clearly state:

“We reaffirm our common judgment that the use of the death penalty is unnecessary and unjustified in our time and circumstances.
Our nation should forgo the use of the death penalty because
The sanction of death, when it is not necessary to protect society, violates respect for human life and dignity. State-sanctioned killing in our names diminishes all of us.
Its application is deeply flawed and can be irreversibly wrong, is prone to errors, and is biased by factors such as race, the quality of legal representation, and where the crime was committed. We have other ways to punish criminals and protect society.”

As good Catholics, we follow the teachings of our Bishops.
 
Philothea53 said:
Well, you can discuss that all day but nonetheless our Bishops have said the death penalty is not an option except as I stated above. You can see the full Statement of the USCCB Calling for an End to the Use of the Death Penalty

The opening paragraphs clearly state:

“We reaffirm our common judgment that the use of the death penalty is unnecessary and unjustified in our time and circumstances.
Our nation should forgo the use of the death penalty because
The sanction of death,** when it is not necessary to protect society**, violates respect for human life and dignity. State-sanctioned killing in our names diminishes all of us.
Its application is deeply flawed and can be irreversibly wrong, is prone to errors, and is biased by factors such as race, the quality of legal representation, and where the crime was committed. We have other ways to punish criminals and protect society.”

As good Catholics, we follow the teachings of our Bishops.
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We are to follow the Catechism, that reinforces the traditional teaching of the church regarding the death penalty.

As I have said before, the society cannot, in fact, protect society from the convicted.
 
I’m getting old, and I keep it simple. I’ll vote for the candidate who I think will do the best job of protecting human life from conception to natural death, period. The other issues don’t hold a candle in importance when compared to respect for life.

Deacon Glen
 
Deacon_Glen said:
I’m getting old, and I keep it simple. I’ll vote for the candidate who I think will do the best job of protecting human life from conception to natural death, period. The other issues don’t hold a candle in importance when compared to respect for life.

Deacon Glen
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:amen:
 
I’m doing a write-in for Ron Paul, or voting for the Constitution Party candidate. Either way, neither of the two major candidates is getting my vote. Obama is most likely the anti-christ and McCain is a war-monger.
 
Christophorus72 said:
sorry, I should have said my conscience is telling me not to vote for the two current frontrunners. I’m just hoping an adult decides to run.😉
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You won’t be alone. I cast my first ever vote this primary season, for a guy who came in last. And I am confident that, absent a miracle, the man that I place my vote for will not win. But I will at least voice my displeasure with the majority views by casting it for a minor party candidate who has views I agree with
 
UKcatholicGuy said:
My conscience tells me to ignore the USCCB.👍
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From your post saying you will write-in Ron Paul, I take it you are either a US citizen in the UK, or a native of UK who has become US citizen. Otherwise I would be puzzled as to why you would pay much heed to the US bishops.

But I am curious about, and don’t understand, the comment I quoted above. What do you find objectionable about the USCCB?
 
Dale_M said:
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What do you find objectionable about the USCCB?
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Sigh . . . where to start? The USCCB is notorious for putting out lukewarm, vague, liberal-leaning (and sometimes outright erroneous) nonsense that does nothing whatsoever to clarify an issue.
 
jero said:
You HAVE to vote… EVERYONE HAS to vote!!
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I have voted in every election since my return from Viet-Nam. I have never been so disappointed with the runners for the president. I am considering not voting…I fell we are left out…you have to be middle of the road or scre* you.
 
UKcatholicGuy said:
Sigh . . . where to start? The USCCB is notorious for putting out lukewarm, vague, liberal-leaning (and sometimes outright erroneous) nonsense that does nothing whatsoever to clarify an issue.
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Sadly I must agree. This has been for as long as I have noticed. 1968 till now.🤷
 
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