UK bans teaching of creationism in any school which receives public funding

[TEPO]

Europe must have some backwards locales as well.

What’s backwards IMO, is using scientific method as the main platform for progress while undermining gut opinions and creative thought. It’s almost as if we’re evolving into cyborgs.

…I see this as a kind of ‘restriction’.

…the method for proving science seems to overshadow the reasoning behind why science remains a tool for our imagination. Science needs a split! We need a dichotomy here, because this type of mindset will become the binding link that will allow technology, facts and theories to rule us -not the other way around.

 

[RACJ]

I’m not faintly interested in discussions about creationism, I was merely pointing out there was no bar on discussion of such things in religion classes.

Thanks heaps for your patronizing permission to discuss creation issues in religion class!
What I would like to see are scientific objections to TOE to be presented. But Darwinists have circled the wagons. The phony Haeckel drawings of embryos, and the peppered moth tale which proves nothing are believed only when there are no contravening opinions allowed. After the Ida and ARDI hoaxes, you’d think that evolutionists would be humbled. Rob

 

[Kaninchen]

Thanks heaps for your patronizing permission to discuss creation issues in religion class!

Nothing to do with me permitting something, whether or not in a patronising manner, it’s UK Government policy.

What I would like to see are scientific objections to TOE to be presented. But Darwinists have circled the wagons. The phony Haeckel drawings of embryos, and the peppered moth tale which proves nothing are believed only when there are no contravening opinions allowed. After the Ida and ARDI hoaxes, you’d think that evolutionists would be humbled. Rob

I’m sure you enjoyed that but to me it’s marginally less interesting than a lecture on crystals in healing.

 

[TEPO]

While human imagination brings us arts, music and all those other things which make life worth living, it doesn’t in itself bring computers, pacemakers, antibiotics or antiviral meds. The two first are mainly products of physics and biology (computer science/engineering being derived from physics, medicine from biology), and the two latter are results of microbiology - and not least, evolutionary biology. Every time you take that kind of medicine, you’re implicitly acknowledging the theory of evolution, whether you realize so or not.

I do realize that actually, and agree to it. I believe there are parts of our genetic makeup that allow for responses to chemical interactions. There are also other parts that deny change. I find the latter most interesting because it indicates that there is intelligence or memory / opinionation built into us. Memory and opinions = life.

Life, as we know it, picks and chooses in a sense, which facts it will allow. If one fact is remembered as negative, the body will invoke another fact to cancel that one out. It’s manipulation of the elements through intelligence.

…ever wonder why deep seated beliefs become handed down from generation to generation and can hardly be expelled? It’s because it’s engraved into us like a memory, to keep us free from negative change. It’s not evolution to escape creationism -it’s a change in species… Spiritually.

…welcome to the age of the Cyborg.

 

[RACJ]

Nothing to do with me permitting something, whether or not in a patronising manner, it’s UK Government policy.
I’m sure you enjoyed that but to me it’s marginally less interesting than a lecture on crystals in healing.

(1) I am unimpressed by the fact that the UK has set policies which prevent children from being challenged in the classroom.
(2) What does crystals and healing have to do with the teaching of origins?

 

[Kaninchen]

(1) I am unimpressed by the fact that the UK has set policies which prevent children from being challenged in the classroom.

I’m sure that the fact that you’re unimpressed will lead to a day of national mourning.

(2) What does crystals and healing have to do with the teaching of origins?

I think you can guess at my answer to that (hint: it runs along the lines of 'about as much as . . .).

Enough of this conversation.

 

[RACJ]

I’m sure that the fact that you’re unimpressed will lead to a day of national mourning.
I think you can guess at my answer to that (hint: it runs along the lines of 'about as much as . . .). Enough of this conversation.

No everyone wishes to be as closed-minded as you. It is typical of liberals to use ridicule in place of logical argumentation. The day you can figure out how brains “evolved” consciousness is the day that you will earn the right to look down on us “little people”. Rob

 

[Kaninchen]

No everyone wishes to be as closed-minded as you. It is typical of liberals to use ridicule in place of logical argumentation.

Reaching for clichés is hardly the hallmark of logical argumentation, either. The UK Government is led by the Conservative Party, I’m a lifelong member of the Conservative Party.

As I said, enough.

 

[Kaninchen]

Yes, we have enough problems without importing somebody else’s.

 

[RACJ]

She spoke for herself clearly, and rudely. If intelligent design is as preposterous as Darwinists believe, why not explain it and expose it? I’ll tell you why. Because many students will be convinced by ID arguments. By fairly explaining ID, control of the acceptable tale of origins will be lost. Students must be taught to believe only one way of thinking. Rob

 

[RACJ]

Reaching for clichés is hardly the hallmark of logical argumentation, either. The UK Government is led by the Conservative Party, I’m a lifelong member of the Conservative Party.
As I said, enough.

Any group may call themselves “conservative”. The term has been diluted. Unless Maggie could be brought back to life, I wouldn’t vote for any of those recently offered by the party. I do have a love for one British pol now: Daniel Hannan. I find Nigel Farage interesting as well. Rob

P.S. My challenge to you to explain consciousness is not a cliche, but I cannot blame you for your dismissiveness.

 

[RACJ]

Ted Cruz, a REAL conservative, will NOT be missing my vote and support in 2016, however. So, fear not, Sir!

 

[Deltadeliquent]

Whatever they are taught in the UK schools… It doesn’t really matter.
I taught in the UK for four years. The British kids don’t listen to anything the teacher says.
It’s not cool, you know.
And being cool is more important than anything else.
Innit?

 

[TEPO]

I cannot blame you for your dismissiveness.

It’s alarming to me to see how obedient Europeans are to the status quo of their ever imposing pop-culture. It’s as if there is some sort of cultural force that shames those who think for themselves -as if individualism is completely lost. It’s always the old infamous ‘well that’s just the way it is’ mentality… Scary.

As if they’re ‘trained’ that all ID is based on judeo-Christian texts, and that researching into it in depth insures they’ll be branded with some sort of anti-science taboo label.

…what a strange culture.

 

[Deltadeliquent]

Wow, Tepo
I wonder if you have actually lived in Europe.
I found the people there very independant. In many ways, more so than Americans.

 

[TEPO]

Wow, Tepo
I wonder if you have actually lived in Europe.
I found the people there very independant. In many ways, more so than Americans.

I doubt that, especially in Eastern Europe in places like Germany. I personally can see the cultural differences for instance between my Eastern European grandparents and my Western European grandparents. It’s clear to me how things are.

…and the whole continent is bent on unity -as if it’s the most valuable ideology of all time … It’s not.

 

[freeRadical]

Lol, British colonies. You guyz still mad?

 

[ringil]

Whatever they are taught in the UK schools… It doesn’t really matter.
I taught in the UK for four years. The British kids don’t listen to anything the teacher says.
It’s not cool, you know.
And being cool is more important than anything else.
Innit?

You mean like adolescents in the US, France, Canada, well everywhere??

 

[ringil]

Yes, you really don’t need to know of the guy. He’ll be gone from the US political stage soon enough.

 

[ringil]

It’s alarming to me to see how obedient Europeans are to the status quo of their ever imposing pop-culture. It’s as if there is some sort of cultural force that shames those who think for themselves -as if individualism is completely lost. It’s always the old infamous ‘well that’s just the way it is’ mentality… Scary.

As if they’re ‘trained’ that all ID is based on judeo-Christian texts, and that researching into it in depth insures they’ll be branded with some sort of anti-science taboo label.

…what a strange culture.

What’s alarming is the glaring ignorance of some Americans regarding the very basics of scientific and the desire to allow out children to grow up as scientific troglodytes.

But like I said before- this problem only exists in more backwards portions of the US- where the evangelical infection is greatest.