Ukraine (cont.)

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While Russia is supporting Christians in Syria, we see Americans supporting the Islamic faction.
Then they’re worse than America, i.e., America’s current government never purported to be Christian in its views whereas Putin’s current government does, yet we can see how selective they truly are in their Christianity, i.e., a wolf in sheep’s clothing is worse than a wolf being a wolf.

God bless!
 
Interesting too, that RT (the Kremlin mouthpiece), showed live coverage of the Pope’s Easter vigil and the canonisations of Pope JP11 and Pope J23rd with news articles about both, still on the RT.com website.

Hopefully, the recent meeting with Pope Francis and the Russian Orthodox church, in November 2013, was fruitful.

en.ria.ru/art_living/20131113/184671536/Russian-Orthodox-Church-Vatican-Ready-for-Collaboration.html

pravmir.com/vatican-pope-expresses-hope-for-reunion-with-orthodox-patriarch/
Why wouldn’t they show it all the other secular news stations were???
 
They all showed ‘live’ coverage of both events.
I watched the ceremonies on a big-name American news network, and their coverage was actually really good. But that doesn’t mean that network is perfect – they also aired a piece on Easter speculating about Jesus not really rising from the dead. Just because a network airs a good story, or even several good stories, that are favorable to Christianity doesn’t mean that everything that network airs will be good or even accurate.
 
kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/prosecutor-general-yanukovych-took-32-billion-to-russia-financing-separatism-in-ukraine-345544.html
Disgraced former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his entourage, whose criminal regime was toppled on Feb. 22 after the three-month EuroMaidan revolution, took $32 billion in cash to Russia, said Ukraine’s Acting Prosecutor General Oleg Makhnitsky in an interview with the Financial Times on April 28.
He believes Yanukovych is using this money to finance the pro-Russian separatist movement in the eastern regions of Ukraine. Russia continues to harbor the ex-president who authorities have implicated in murder and grand corruption.
Interestingly, Ukraine’s state budget for 2014 is only $31.5 billion, according to the April 29 hryvnia rate on the interbank exchange market.
 
Since we’re discussing Russia in this thread, I guess I’ll go ahead and post this story here (I did debate starting a separate thread).

“Russian Parliament Approves New Law Restricting the Internet”
online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304163604579531460215555456
MOSCOW—Russia’s parliament approved a package of sweeping new restrictions on the Internet and blogging. The bills drew wide criticism from local technology companies and pro-democracy activists.
The new measures come amid steps by the Kremlin to tighten its control over media and the political system in Russia, efforts that have gained momentum in recent months. Western criticism of Moscow’s behavior in the Ukraine crisis has led to more attacks by the Kremlin on domestic critics.
The draft laws affecting the Internet, which are expected to be signed soon by President Vladimir Putin and take effect in August, have elicited unusually strong criticism from Russia’s vibrant technology sector.
 
While Russia is supporting Christians in Syria, we see Americans supporting the Islamic faction.
Except, of course, that Russia is not supporting Christians in Syria. It is supporting Islamic Iran in propping up Iran’s client, Assad. America is not really supporting “the Islamic faction”. Obama attempted to support a purportedly secular segment of that fragmented movement, but it was too little and too late. The radical Sunni factions are supported by the oil states.

No, while the Christian areas were under siege, Russia did not one thing to protect them. It could have, since it is allied with the government of Syria and had access. But it didn’t.
 
Without Russian weaponry, the Assad government more than likely would have been toppled by now, and with it any real chance of surivival for the Christian community. I admit, Russia could do more for Syria, but they have tried to avoid becoming involved in a fullscale conflict with some of the regions other players, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. At the same time, speculation is rampant, that the US and it’s Western allies have been involved to some degree in providing weapons that eventually found there way into the hands of Jihadist forces.
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                       Meanwhile in Ukraine, acting president  Turchynov has admitted that units of Ukraine's security forces have gone over to the seperatists, and that his government is powerless to act [bbc.com/news/world-europe-27222023](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27222023) 

                     And in Europe, Serbia is announcing they will not be part of any sanctions against Russia [en.ria.ru/world/20140430/189483428/Serbia-Will-Never-Target-Russia-With-Sanctions--Foreign-Minister.html](http://en.ria.ru/world/20140430/189483428/Serbia-Will-Never-Target-Russia-With-Sanctions--Foreign-Minister.html)
 
Nonsense.

Have those who opposed Russia’s agent Yanukovych marched in and taken over any other country? Have they seized city halls and police stations in Russia? Do they have 40 or 50,000 well-armed troops on Russia’s border?

This is actually not at all complicated. A million or more people protested Yanuk’s thievery and attempt to move Ukraine into Russia’s orbit. In order to be motivated to do that, all they had to do was look at European prosperity and freedom and compare with Russian poverty and despotism. Easy choice to make.

Yanuko’s thugs shot a few protesters, then he ran off to Putin’s protection. Putin conquered Crimea and will now conquer eastern and southern Ukraine. The only way in which Russia’s conquest was influenced by the Maidan protests is that “Plan A” failed, so Putin went to “Plan B” to acquire Ukraine. If “Plan B” (internal subversion) doesn’t work, he’ll go to “Plan C”, outright military conquest by Russian troops that admit to being Russian troops.

As Russian aggression becomes more and more obvious, it’s time people stopped blaming the victim.
All this pales to the Watts riots and 3 centuries of U.S. racial discrimination. Talk about specs in eyes.
 
Without Russian weaponry, the Assad government more than likely would have been toppled by now, and with it any real chance of surivival for the Christian community. I admit, Russia could do more for Syria, but they have tried to avoid becoming involved in a fullscale conflict with some of the regions other players, Israel, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar. At the same time, speculation is rampant, that the US and it’s Western allies have been involved to some degree in providing weapons that eventually found there way into the hands of Jihadist forces.
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                       Meanwhile in Ukraine, acting president  Turchynov has admitted that units of Ukraine's security forces have gone over to the seperatists, and that his government is powerless to act [bbc.com/news/world-europe-27222023](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27222023) 

                     And in Europe, Serbia is announcing they will not be part of any sanctions against Russia [en.ria.ru/world/20140430/189483428/Serbia-Will-Never-Target-Russia-With-Sanctions--Foreign-Minister.html](http://en.ria.ru/world/20140430/189483428/Serbia-Will-Never-Target-Russia-With-Sanctions--Foreign-Minister.html)
All Russia does in Syria is aid the Iranian puppet Assad. It has done nothing at all for the Christians. Does anybody really think Russia fears the “other players” in the region when it doesn’t fear the U.S. and when not one of the “other players” (except Iran) has a single soldier in Syria?

Of course Ukraine is powerless to prevent aggression by a country equipped with modern arms, oil money and a population three times larger. Everybody has known that all along.

Serbia has its own revanchist ambitions, and I’m sure it is watching the Ukraine situation closely. Remember when Clinton threatened Serbia with war when it was on the verge of invading Macedonia? Does anyone think the Serbs have forgotten, or that they don’t see Obama flailing helplessly in the face of aggression?
 
All this pales to the Watts riots and 3 centuries of U.S. racial discrimination. Talk about specs in eyes.
Totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Still, the Watts riots and racial discrimination didn’t result in the killing of tens of millions in Russia during the Soviet era. Talk about specks in the eye. And as a KGB colonel, why would anyone think Putin’s thinking processes are any different from his KBG predecessors who carried out the mass killings? There’s more reason to think he’s cut from the same cloth than to think otherwise.

One shouldn’t be so ready to hand Ukrainians over to him.
 
America is not really supporting “the Islamic faction”.
Here is testimony from Syrian women that the opposition is sponsored and supported by the Muslim brotherhood and that America has been funding this element. The rebels have forced at least 80,000 Christians out of their homes and if you don’t go along with them, you will be beheaded. Beheading is not a tool of secularists. Beheading is a tool of Muslims.
youtube.com/watch?v=GrEPadG0pQk
 
This is from today’s Kyiv Post, which obviously is unsympathetic to seperatists in Ukraine.

Poll finds Donetsk residents think Kyiv government is illigitimate

5:55 p.m. – According to a poll of 3,232 citizens of eight oblasts in southeastern Ukraine conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology from april 8-16, 50.8 percent of respondents were “sure” or “inclined to think” that interim President Oleksandr Turchynov is an illegitimate leader. In Donetsk Oblast, that figure was 74 perent.

Nearly 50 percent of respondents in Donetsk Oblast said they were “sure” or “inclined to think” that Ukraine’s parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, wields power illegitimately.

In Donetk Oblast, more than 70 percent of respondents considered the EuroMaidan Revolution an “armed coup organized by the opposition with the help of the West.” – Isaac D. Webb
kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-seize-horlivka-city-council-building-live-updates-345667.html
 
This is from today’s Kyiv Post, which obviously is unsympathetic to seperatists in Ukraine.

Poll finds Donetsk residents think Kyiv government is illigitimate

5:55 p.m. – According to a poll of 3,232 citizens of eight oblasts in southeastern Ukraine conducted by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology from april 8-16, 50.8 percent of respondents were “sure” or “inclined to think” that interim President Oleksandr Turchynov is an illegitimate leader. In Donetsk Oblast, that figure was 74 perent.

Nearly 50 percent of respondents in Donetsk Oblast said they were “sure” or “inclined to think” that Ukraine’s parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, wields power illegitimately.

In Donetk Oblast, more than 70 percent of respondents considered the EuroMaidan Revolution an “armed coup organized by the opposition with the help of the West.” – Isaac D. Webb
kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/separatists-seize-horlivka-city-council-building-live-updates-345667.html
My personal opinion is that a separation of Ukraine into East and West would be better than the chaotic situation which exists in Ukraine today. Czechoslovakia split into two countries and the results were pleasant for both sides.
 
Here is testimony from Syrian women that the opposition is sponsored and supported by the Muslim brotherhood and that America has been funding this element. The rebels have forced at least 80,000 Christians out of their homes and if you don’t go along with them, you will be beheaded. Beheading is not a tool of secularists. Beheading is a tool of Muslims.
youtube.com/watch?v=GrEPadG0pQk
Let’s see, that “testimony” would be triple hearsay, wouldn’t it? One does not particularly doubt the Muslim Brotherhood supports one or more factions in the Syrian civil war, but one very much doubts it supports all of them, if for no other reason that they kill each other. Hezbollah is one of the factions, and there’s no way the Muslim Brotherhood supports it, or perhaps any number of others.

I was, and am, dismayed that Obama ever gave resources of any kind to the Muslim Brotherhood, and many others were as well. I very much doubt anyone in the U.S. government really knows who is funding whom in Syria, or with what money.

But neither will I defend Iran. Assad finds Christians useful at present (though he seems pretty lax in defending them). Once Iran controls the Middle East from its borders to the Mediterranean, it will be a differents story, just as it is in Iran.
 
My personal opinion is that a separation of Ukraine into East and West would be better than the chaotic situation which exists in Ukraine today. Czechoslovakia split into two countries and the results were pleasant for both sides.
But that’s not the issue, is it? The Czech Republic and Slovakia are independent states. Eastern Ukraine’s fate, like that of Crimea’s is to become part of Russia. Remember, Russia has annexed Crimea. There’s no “separate country” to it.

There are Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. There are Russian speakers in western Ukraine. This whole thing is nothing but a Russian conquest of part, perhaps all, of Ukraine. The whole world knows it.
 
The disposition of the U.S. and it’s proven inability to recognize justice in the past, puts into question it’s qualification in determining fair justice among others. Scripture warns entities this will happen if they act unjustly. In fact, it’s critiques in regards to the conduct of others puts it into conflict of interest.

Even today it strengthens such an assessment by ignoring the prime Authority’s instruction to stop legislated capital punishment and abortions, therefore, it’s state has not changed since those experiences. This helps explain the US’s failed image throughout the world. It just doesn’t understand that it’s principles which it would like others to follow start at home, and help the student gauge if the teacher is qualified.

The fact that there is no difference among two conducts doesn’t prove one principle is the better choice. The one that substantiates right principle it is the more just.
 
But that’s not the issue, is it? The Czech Republic and Slovakia are independent states. Eastern Ukraine’s fate, like that of Crimea’s is to become part of Russia. Remember, Russia has annexed Crimea. There’s no “separate country” to it.

There are Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. There are Russian speakers in western Ukraine. This whole thing is nothing but a Russian conquest of part, perhaps all, of Ukraine. The whole world knows it.
If Russia wanted to effect a “conquest” of eastern Ukraine, it could have easily done so by now, especially with the whole USA media taking almost exclusive notice and talking endlessly about a secretly taped telephone conversation that an owner of a basketball team had with an acquaintance of his.
The overwhelming majority of people in Crimea wanted to be a part of Russia and this was verified by the election to do so and by the continuous public partying, dancing in the streets, singing and waving the Russian flags almost endlessly for a day or two after the announcement of the return of Crimea to Russia.
youtube.com/watch?v=lp6hFjnIFts
youtube.com/watch?v=DYTzs6iCRso
youtube.com/watch?v=kIL9otao8z4
youtube.com/watch?v=YU6S-T4kePg
youtube.com/watch?v=uMoUqFG6mKU
 
If Russia wanted to effect a “conquest” of eastern Ukraine, it could have easily done so by now, especially with the whole USA media taking almost exclusive notice and talking endlessly about a secretly taped telephone conversation that an owner of a basketball team had with an acquaintance of his.
The overwhelming majority of people in Crimea wanted to be a part of Russia and this was verified by the election to do so and by the continuous public partying, dancing in the streets, singing and waving the Russian flags almost endlessly for a day or two after the announcement of the return of Crimea to Russia.
youtube.com/watch?v=lp6hFjnIFts
youtube.com/watch?v=DYTzs6iCRso
youtube.com/watch?v=kIL9otao8z4
youtube.com/watch?v=YU6S-T4kePg
youtube.com/watch?v=uMoUqFG6mKU
Precisely, the Western media have their own agenda - for reasons best known to themselves.

However, if you read comments to most of the anti-Russian/cold war stories from these sources around 90% disagree or more to the point do not ‘believe’ the spin on the stories. They do not necessarily ‘side’ with Putin BUT do not believe anything the papers print.

This all follows on from the WMD fiasco, when over 1 million protested against the Iraq war in London - the biggest protest ever and 36 million protested worldwide at over 3000 venues - but the West went to war anyway. Also other lies in relation to Libya, etc that have been told over the past decade, so as to ‘enable’ Western intervention to ‘invade’ a country to then allegedly ‘help’ it sort out their problems.

I’m afraid it’s a case of ‘Liar, liar pants on fire’ and also ‘do as we say but not what we do’.
 
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