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grotto said:
Imagining being a resident of the Crimea; earning my rather comfortable income as a Russian technician working for the Naval Base. It would not be in my best interest to take a side of those throwing out the President of the Ukraine.
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I agree, all politics is local
 
gilliam said:
Really? Great. He can start in Russia where Roman Catholicism is not recognized as a legitimate religion.
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Yep:
Due to the long-held views of the Russian Orthodox Church, Catholicism is not recognized by the state as a legitimately Russian religion, and Catholics have often been seen as outsiders, even if they are ethnically Russian. The Soviet Union, which persecuted all religions, also saw Catholicism as a non-Russian allegiance…A 2004 Ecumenical conference was organized for Russia’s “traditional religions” Orthodox Christianity, Judaism, Islam and Buddhism, and therefore excluded Catholicism
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholicism_in_Russia

Russia, as a polity, is openly anti-Catholic even to this day.
 
Sorry to hear that you are leaving Jharek. You have been a very distinctive and interesting poster to read.

God Bless my friend.
 
pepipop said:
I’m really sorry to see you go, (name removed by moderator), as I always enjoyed your posts as well as the fact you are a fellow Irishperson. 👍

God bless, to you and your family - however I hope you will consider changing your mind.
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I echo this.
 
And what about your agenda? It seems like Putin can do no wrong in your eyes and the eyes of many of Putin’s other UIs here on CAF. Frankly I find it nauseating that a thug like Putin is made out to be some hero by many here.
 
Seamus_L said:
Vladimir Putin has vowed to protect Christians worldwide, who in NATO or the EU has done that ? Putin has prevented a Salafist takeover of Syria, but whether or not he turns out to be a bad guy, what is important is that the countless prayers for the conversion of Russia have been bearing fruit. Christianity is growing in Russia, while it is in serious decline in most of the NATO-EU countries.
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Putin didn’t lift a finger to help the residents of Maaloula or any other Christians in Syria. Vow or no vow, he doesn’t act on it. There are no cordons of Russian troops guarding Christian villages there. Let’s not dub him the El Cid of the world just because he talks the talk.

It’s possible, certainly, that as Christianity declines in the West, it will meet an ascending level of participation in Russia. But the lines have not yet crossed, at least as regards the U.S. A lot of Russians go to church sometime or other, but very few go regularly. Almost every western country exceeds the Russian weekly attendance rate, and the U.S. exceeds it by a factor of about six times.
 
pepipop said:
However that’s the way these things go after a near civil war, overthrowing
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Right there is more propaganda then I have seen before. More Russian propaganda in the US than I have ever seen also. America has it faults but Putin created the situation, and frankly I can’t see where he changed at all. Where is the good Putin that Hillary and Obama thought we were resetting the clock with?
 
I enjoyed this quote from a recent interview with former Georgian President Saakashvili:
Saakashvili:
I met Vladimir Putin dozens of times and I remember at one of our last meetings he told me, “Your friends in the West promised you lots of nice things, but they never deliver. Well, I don’t. I don’t promise you nice things at all, but I always deliver.”
Source
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GaryTaylor said:
Right there is more propaganda then I have seen before. More Russian propaganda in the US than I have ever seen also. America has it faults but Putin created the situation, and frankly I can’t see where he changed at all. Where is the good Putin that Hillary and Obama thought we were resetting the clock with?
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To me, the Ukrainian riots and overthrown government caused it all, aided and abetted by the West. If the above hadn’t happened what has Putin got to do with any of it? He had a major disturbance occur on his doorstep and was asked by Crimea, to assist.

The dummy soldiers are the only part I do not understand, as they’re only there for show as Crimea want the Russians there. So i can only assume he had to make some sort of ‘military’ intervention, as Russia always has troops in the Crimea and he didn’t want to make it look like a threat and hence didn’t use the Russian soldiers.

It’s all bluff and bluster ATM, but not sure why the pretend soldiers were needed, there must be some legalese reason behind it. Having Russian troops in Crimea legally anyway, in a country that states it wants to join Russia - is hardly violating any international law, WHEN the government of the country was recently overthrown.
 
OrdinaryMelkite said:
One question I would ask, though…by what right does the US and “the West” say that Crimea cannot vote on whether it wants to go back to Russia or not? The 1994 agreement?

Sounds “hypocritical” to me, at least…

But what do i know…:rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I don’t know, maybe the fact that both Iraq and Afghanistan told us to leave and we did/are even though we pretty much “owned” their countries through our military presence? But hey, let’s go with the idea that the people living in the Crimea were so oppressed that it took an all in but name invasion by the Russian military to let them say what they really think.:rolleyes:
 
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