Unamerican Secret Trial presided by Democrat Adam Schiff

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I think demand is not only high, it is motivated. And that inflates price. The best heart surgery costs more.
I think that mortality rates and disability rates were higher back then in part, because there was less access until progressive society began providing former peasant a new lifestyle.
 
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I have no idea what Schiff deceptions means. I can understand a defendant capable of gathering an army of people to discredit his prosecutor and witnesses. It is a mafia Don’s (BLANK DREAM). So are there actual specifics?
 
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dvdjs said:
The are not legitimate questions and they are properly overuled.
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They are legitimate questions. You just don’t like them so you use your whistleblower excuse. How would Jordan even know the person he asked about was the whistleblower? Of course…to defend Schiff for shutting down questions you don’t like.

Nobody knows who the whistleblower is. Can’t question the whistleblower. Only Schiff can know. Can’t face your accuser. Lol.
 
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F_Marturana said:
No one knew who Deep throat was until decades later.
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And patriots looked at the acts and the evidence rather than trying to deflection attention to the question of deepthroat’s identity.
Woodyl57 said:
They are legitimate questions. Y
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What is the legitimacy of the question of this sort? Please be specific.
Woodyl57 said:
Can’t face your accuser.
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There is already a long list of people who have given testimony who will available for be cross-examination when that time comes.
 
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dvdjs said:
Perhaps you would consider deleting this impolite remark.
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I deleted the ‘impolite’ remark.

The whistleblower has been shown to have ties to Joe Biden and Schiff. Political bias is definitely a concern and there are questions if he even is a whistleblower or peddling in leaks. Not sharing the information with minority members of the committee is more about protecting these corrupt Dems than the so called whistleblower.

You can defend it all you want. This is going nowhere and Pelosi knows it which is why her little resolution give Schiff out right veto powers on subpoenas.

When the Senate shuts it down is when we will finally start hearing complaints about the process from the Dems.
 
Woodyl57 said:
I deleted the ‘impolite’ remark.
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Thanks. I delet
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Woodyl57 said:
The whistleblower has been shown to have ties to Joe Biden and Schiff.
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So you know who it is?
The relevant question is whether or not Trump abused his power.
The motives of the whistleblower in bringing the accusation forward are immaterial. It is evidence that will decide the question. Do you expect that the evidence should be ignored if the whistle blower;s motives are impure? If so, why on earth would you expect such a thing?
 
dvdjs said:
  • How are questions talking points?
  • Whistle blowers laws are bipartisan, not “Dem talking points”.
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Questions? As in the article stating, and Nunes also confirming, Schiff telling witness not to answer Republicans questions?

Talking points? Schiff then selectively leaks info he wants?

This is not about the whistleblower. This is just Schiff’s despicable comportment on display.
Talk about a sham undercutting of due process!!

It’s all about to fall on the Democrats. New rulings on the Flynn case, the Horowitz report, the Durham criminal investigation, Democrat House changing course and arguing on rules, in essence confessing their sham.

And the Dems want to impeach Trump because they wanted to do so even before he was elected. When they do, and they will for purely political reasons at whatever cost, it will be their undoing. Right now they are desperate to get it done and are fighting themselves. In that desperation, they can’t even see it’s destroying them.
 
Woodyl57 said:
The whistleblower has been shown to have ties to Joe Biden and Schiff. Political bias is definitely a concern and there are questions if he even is a whistleblower or peddling in leaks. Not sharing the information with minority members of the committee is more about protecting these corrupt Dems than the so called whistleblower.
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Woody, we are past the whistleblower. He /she no longer matters.

The committees are hearing from real people with actual knowledge of the call, the backstory, other dealings, etc.

I’m really curious. Why do you think the whistleblower’s identity matters? If he/she is a rabid, dyed in the wool, progressive Democrat it still doesn’t change the fact pattern.
 
PaulinVA said:
I’m really curious. Why do you think the whistleblower’s identity matters? If he/she is a rabid, dyed in the wool, progressive Democrat it still doesn’t change the fact pattern.
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The fact pattern outside this impeachment is leaks, leaks, leaks. Big problem in the state department and other government agencies. I know that may not be high on the list of care, especially when it might help embarrass or get rid of Trump, but it’s a problem. We have strokz emails that show its a problem. You or I don’t need to know the identity of this so called whistleblower, but more than just Schiff and his staff should. But what does it matter if there are leakers in the government if it gets Trump, right?

The fact pattern right now, even with just the little information Schiff leaks is more officials and ambassadors that are very concerned…concerned with policy decisions they disagree with. Not their call on those unfortunately for them.
 
Woodyl57 said:
The fact pattern right now, even with just the little information Schiff leaks is more officials and ambassadors that are very concerned…concerned with policy decisions they disagree with. Not their call on those unfortunately for them.
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I have no idea what your first paragraph meant.

As for the second, no. It’s not policy disagreements.

In a pair of volatile meetings, senior White House officials, including then-national security adviser John Bolton, were confronted with the outlines of a scheme they had previously only suspected: President Trump was seeking to use the power of his office to pressure Ukraine to deliver damaging information on former vice president Joe Biden and his son.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...e1836e-fa7d-11e9-8190-6be4deb56e01_story.html
 
JButky said:
Schiff telling witness not to answer Republicans questions?
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You statement is misleading. There is reference to one type of question that was ruled improper by the chair, who instructed the person testifying not to answer it. That question was asked by a Republican.
JButky said:
Schiff then selectively leaks info he wants?
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What information, exactly, has ben “leaked”? What evidence do yu have that it is from Schiff? I read transcripts from one day of testimony in the Washington Examiner that were unlikely to have come from Schiff. I read remarks form Republican committee members. i am not a fan of leaks, but te one-sided complaints about them are a deflection from the serious business at hand.
JButky said:
This is not about the whistleblower.
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Good.
JButky said:
It’s all about to fall on the Democrats.
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We will have to wait and see.
 
Never happened. No investigation done by Ukraine and no funds with held. But hey, you can interpret his intentions how you want. At least you have the Senate to fall back on the blame for “looking the other way” when that vote comes up.

Plus, why would we want to investigate all possible 2016 election interference and not just what we think we can pin on Trump?

 
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Woodyl57 said:
Never happened. No investigation done by Ukraine and no funds with held. But hey, you can interpret his intentions how you want. At least you have the Senate to fall back on the blame for “looking the other way” when that vote comes u
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Woody, there doesn’t have to be any action on the Ukrainian’s part for the President’s actions to be wrong.

I think we should investigate all allegations Let’s do the President first.
 
PaulinVA said:
Woody, there doesn’t have to be any action on the Ukrainian’s part for the President’s actions to be wrong.
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There were also no funds withheld on the US part. But sure, let’s do the president first. I bet the Dems are interested in getting to the rest next. Lol
 
Woodyl57 said:
There were also no funds withheld on the US part. But sure, let’s do the president first. I bet the Dems are interested in getting to the rest next. Lol
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Woody, there doesn’t need to be any funds withheld, either, although I think there were. Anyway, an attempted abuse of power is the same as abuse of power. Actually, it IS abuse of power.

And, the Senate is controlled by the Republicans, and they can investigate anything they want.
 
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