Unity in the Eucharist?

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Jerry-Jet said:
What did Jesus mean when He said that His Body was true food and His blood was true drink?

What did Jesus mean when he said that if you do not eat His body and drink His blood that “you do not have life in you”?

What did St. Paul mean when he said that one must “discern the body of the Lord”?

If Jesus’ natural body ears are only in heaven how do they hear all the prayers from all the world at once and decipher them?

Seems like if He is God enough to decipher all those prayers at once that being in more than one place at one time would be a snap.

To all those who don’t believe in the Catholic view of the eucharist let me ask this–how upset was God that the Catholic Church was teaching error about the Eucharist for 1500 years?

Why didn’t God do something about it? Did He not care that christians all over the world in churches all over the world were being taught error for all of those 1500 years?

If that error was indeed being taught and practiced in churches all over the world for 1500 years–were the gates of Hell prevailing against Christ’s Church during those 1500 years?

If not then exactly what would it have taken for the devil to prevail over Christ’s Church–is idolatry at churches all over the world by adoring Christ when he is not substantially there not enough?

Lastly does the eucharist only being a symbol make you feel closer to Christ and make you have a more personal relationship with Christ than if He truly was there Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity?

What would it take for you to believe that He was there Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity?

If He came to your house and appeared and told you and then vanished would you believe Him or would it be too hard a saying and would you go back to your non Catholic Church and still not believe it?

On the road to Emaus they recognized Him in the breaking of bread and then He vanished. In that case Jesus was at least in the building in the breaking of bread and not just a symbol!
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What did Jesus mean when He said that His Body was true food and His blood was true drink?

The Lord Body signifies Divine Good. His blood signifies Divine Truth. Truth is the Word, and the Word is Divine Truth. The Lord is the Word. Divine Truth is also the Holy Spirit. When we do the good works of charity from the Lord, we take in ourself good from the Lord. He is good itself, and truth itself

What did Jesus mean when he said that if you do not eat His body and drink His blood that “you do not have life in you”?

Those who shun goods and truths from the Lord are not excepted in heaven.Charity and Faith must be together in man.

What did St. Paul mean when he said that one must “discern the body of the Lord”?

Those who take Holy Communion from the love of self are not worthy.
If Jesus’ natural body ears are only in heaven how do they hear all the prayers from all the world at once and decipher them?

The Lord only hears the prays of the rightious,and turns his Face against those who are evil.

Seems like if He is God enough to decipher all those prayers at once that being in more than one place at one time would be a snap.

It is the angels who answer our prays for God…God does all good things through the angels.He teach us through the angels. That is why God say in Genesis 1:26 Let us made man, which means, let us regenerate man…
 
Jesus Christ IS the Kingdom of heaven and here on earth, but not fully realized until the end of time.

When we go to Mass, we enter into eternal time and into God’s ordained place here on earth. The Mass unites us to Jesus before the Heavenly Father, through the Holy Spirit here on earth.

Jesus Christ IS the source of communion. The more we enter into Jesus and His life, the greater the grace of unity.

God IS the Source of Communion and thus the One Who unites us.
 
The thread is called ‘Unity in the Eucharist, and here we are 405 posts later still talking about our differences.

Christ died for Everyone, and the priest says at mass, take this All of you and eat, how can we divide Christ?

Blessings

Eric
 
Eric_Hyom said:
The thread is called ‘Unity in the Eucharist, and here we are 405 posts later still talking about our differences.

Christ died for Everyone, and the priest says at mass, take this All of you and eat, how can we divide Christ?

Blessings

Eric
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Hey Eric. That’s a good point. However, people have been dividing Jesus’ Mystical Body, the Church since the protestant reformation, and there does not seem to be any end in sight. When people leave Jesus’ Church, to join another church, or start their own church that unity in the Eucharist is compromised - isn’t it?
 
Eric_Hyom said:
The thread is called ‘Unity in the Eucharist, and here we are 405 posts later still talking about our differences.

Christ died for Everyone, and the priest says at mass, take this All of you and eat, how can we divide Christ?

Blessings

Eric
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One cannot have unity until the differences are worked out. Correct?
joe370 said:
Hey Eric. That’s a good point. However, people have been dividing Jesus’ Mystical Body, the Church since the protestant reformation, and there does not seem to be any end in sight. When people leave Jesus’ Church, to join another church, or start their own church that unity in the Eucharist is compromised - isn’t it?
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Very much and sadly true! A new "church’ sprung up here last summer. It is called the Kingdom of God and the pastor calls himself Jehovah Ray. 🤷
 
People have been leaving Jesus over what He taught about the Eucharist sinceJohn 6:66.

The real question is the one posed by Jesus “Do you want to leave, too?”

The answer to that is the one Peter gave–Lord you have the words of eternal life–where else could we go?
 
Jerry-Jet said:
People have been leaving Jesus over what He taught about the Eucharist sinceJohn 6:66.

The real question is the one posed by Jesus “Do you want to leave, too?”

The answer to that is the one Peter gave–Lord you have the words of eternal life–where else could we go?
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😃 👍
 
joe370 said:
Hey Eric. That’s a good point. However, people have been dividing Jesus’ Mystical Body, the Church since the protestant reformation, and there does not seem to be any end in sight. When people leave Jesus’ Church, to join another church, or start their own church that unity in the Eucharist is compromised - isn’t it?
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Yes, excellent point I concur :))
We have to work on problems that divide us to bring us closer to unity,
 
Jerry-Jet said:
People have been leaving Jesus over what He taught about the Eucharist sinceJohn 6:66.

The real question is the one posed by Jesus “Do you want to leave, too?”

The answer to that is the one Peter gave–Lord you have the words of eternal life–where else could we go?
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Excellent point; John 6:66 is explicitly clear.
 
aidanbradypop said:
One cannot have unity until the differences are worked out. Correct?
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Correct.

I don’t agree with Orthodox when they say that Catholic doctrine is wrong; but as long as they think that it wouldn’t make any sense for them to agree to intercommune with us.

Likewise, it wouldn’t make any sense for us (Catholics) to agree to intercommune with Anglicans unless we first work out our differences with them.
 
The life of the Catholic Church is Jesus Christ, and we have documented history verifying we have been receiving His Precious Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity since the beginning, always referring to St. Justin the Martyr’s description of the Mass around 154 AD.

He wrote out what happens at Mass to the Roman Emperor at that time, and the format, parts, spirit and tone same as at Mass today.

Pope Justinian added the Psalms to the Mass, I believe somewhere in the 200 AD. The Mass developed and yes, we can also assume that the apostles themselves did not fully comprehend all that they were founding through Christ in their time.

Subsequently, the more you go on the chosen path into Catholicism, the more you will come through the veil and into the Mystery of Christ, especially at the summit of the Church – the Eucharist.

The Church is Mystery and faith, its essential form is the Lord Himself, fully resurrected and glorified before the Heavenly Father, wounded but triumphant Who communicates Himself to us here on earth through the Holy Spirit.

After 40 days, Christ was glorified into Heaven, fulfilling the anointed high priest who was dictated to enter into the Holy of Holies to sanctify the Mercy Seat with the sacrificial blood of animals. Now Christ is the Sacrificial Lamb, Who is memorialized at the Mass.

As God dictated to Moses how He wanted to be worshipped, how He wanted His priests to be dressed at the altar, to how he wanted His temple to be built, likewise, Christ says to “Do this in memory of Me”.

The only offering we can give to God to erase sin is God Himself, His Son, Jesus Christ.

The Church likewise is the fulfillment of the Tree of Life in the Garden of Eden, the only tree named whose fruit Adam and Eve could eat. The Tree of Life comes from the Cross Christ died on, and this Cross made by human hands has now become His Church that gives us the fruit of His Eucharist.

Unity comes from God not from man.
 
Anna_Scott said:
Harry,
All the secrets of Heaven? How were they revealed to you?

Anna
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iIn the book of Genesis God said, “Let us make man.” To some this means three Divine persons…I was taught it this way, Regeneration of man is done by the Lord, by means of the angels.The Lord creates a new soul in man.

I beheld the earth, and lo, it was void and emptiness, and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld and lo there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled (Jeremiah 4:23, 25). This is what man is before he is born again or regenerated, void and emptiy, no knowledge of God, stupid and sinfil The same is written in Genesis. Genesis is not about the natural world. It is about the regeneration of the man soul by the Lord. The man is made new by the Lord through the angels. The Lord Himself said, "Behold I make of things new.: The man has to do his part, because Paul wrote that we must let our old self die, so that the new self, which os made by the Lord can live.

The Holy Bible is fill with heavenly secrets.

Harry:)
 
Harry1941 said:
iIn the book of Genesis God said, “Let us make man.” To some this means three Divine persons…I was taught it this way, Regeneration of man is done by the Lord, by means of the angels.The Lord creates a new soul in man.

I beheld the earth, and lo, it was void and emptiness, and the heavens, and they had no light. I beheld and lo there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled (Jeremiah 4:23, 25). This is what man is before he is born again or regenerated, void and emptiy, no knowledge of God, stupid and sinfil The same is written in Genesis. Genesis is not about the natural world. It is about the regeneration of the man soul by the Lord. The man is made new by the Lord through the angels. The Lord Himself said, "Behold I make of things new.: The man has to do his part, because Paul wrote that we must let our old self die, so that the new self, which os made by the Lord can live.

The Holy Bible is fill with heavenly secrets.

Harry:)
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Hey Harry. As far as “all the secrets of Heaven” clearly no one on this side of eternity has a clue - right?
 
Only Jesus Christ makes us acceptable to the Father.

What about the Tree of Life, the only allowable fruit named in the Garden of Eden? People over look that Tree.

It is the forthcoming Church, the carnate built by human hands from the wood of the Cross, but the saving and redeeming power of the Church solely comes from Jesus Christ, through the sacraments and in particular, the Eucharist, the Fruit of the Vine.
 
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