UPDATE 1-U.S. nuclear bomb facility shut after security breach

[Prodigal_Son1]

I am all for protesting nuclear weapons but not in this way.

And what do you find wrong with the way this protest has taken place?

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

by the way, it is a fact that we are being persecuted here in the United States. We are not being persecuted as severely as Catholics and other Christians are being persecuted in other countries but if we let Obama win this election, it might start becoming that way.

Christ told His disciples:

Joh 15:20 Remember my word that I said to you: The servant is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they have kept my word, they will keep yours also.
Joh 15:21 But all these things they will do to you for my name’s sake: because they know not him that sent me.

Just as it might be that people will persecute the Church for this protest, they will also persecute the Church for it’s stance on abortion, gay marriage, contraception, etc.

 

[pete_29]

Are they planning such protests at nuclear facilities in Iran? How about North Korea? Pakistan? France? China? Russia? Etc.? If not, whats the point?

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Are they planning such protests at nuclear facilities in Iran? How about North Korea? Pakistan? France? China? Russia? Etc.? If not, whats the point?

You act where you can act. Consider abortion: we can protest at AB clinics in the U.S., but not at those in China and Russia. And, if not, what’s the point, eh?

 

[pete_29]

You act where you can act. Consider abortion: we can protest at AB clinics in the U.S., but not at those in China and Russia. And, if not, what’s the point, eh?

Not even close to the same thing. If the United States got rid of all its nuclear weapons and every other country that had them kept them where does that leave the US. I’m sure we can trust them all not to threaten the United States.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

Not even close to the same thing. If the United States got rid of all its nuclear weapons and every other country that had them kept them where does that leave the US. I’m sure we can trust them all not to threaten the United States.

It seems part of the protest’s message was the hypocrisy of the US example of trying to control the other country’s building of WMD while the US continues to build up it’s own armament.

How can we expect others to stop building, or eliminate some of their armament, of WMD if we continue building more?

 

[M-Dent]

Praising her is permitted in this thread. Further developing any critique of her and her associations may be hazardous. It’s your playground now, folks. I’m getting out of the radioactive zone.

This is a shame. I am interested in your viewpoint.

The experience I have gained from the US military and from another US government agency in which I was employed gives me an appreciation for the need of national security. IMO, this concept is mostly lost in this thread.

Yet, I admit I am completely against nuclear weapons. I wish they never came into being. But they did. They goal is how to responsibly eliminate them. I have my own ideas. But I little in common with these reckless protesters.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

I believe our national security requires more than a contractor that allowed ‘reckless’ protesters to walk, inside the perimeter, for 2 hours before reaching the building, and then having time to paint slogans and throw blood on the walls, especially at a nuclear processing/storage facility. What could have happened if they had been trained, armed terrorists?

 

[M-Dent]

I believe our national security requires more than a contractor that allowed ‘reckless’ protesters to walk, inside the perimeter, for 2 hours before reaching the building, and then having time to paint slogans and throw blood on the walls, especially at a nuclear processing/storage facility. What could have happened if they had been trained, armed terrorists?

I am in complete agreement with you the failure of WSI Oak Ridge contractors is inexcusable. Though, it appears almost a sign of the times – the news aggregates are compiling stories on Chick-Fil-A while this incident is lost to the general populace. There are organizations/groups we should be very worried did take notice.

 

[Corki]

news.yahoo.com/judge-releases-nun-broke-u-nuclear-bomb-facility-002057006.html?_esi=1

A U.S. magistrate judge on Friday ordered the release pending trial of an 82-year-old nun and another anti-nuclear activist charged with breaching security fences at one of the most sensitive U.S. nuclear facilities, in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where weapons-grade uranium is kept.

The activists painted slogans and threw what they said was human blood on the wall of the facility, one of numerous buildings in the facility known by the code name Y-12 that it was given during World War Two, officials said.

I understand that some communities of religious sisters have shifted their mission from teaching and caring for the sick and hungry to working for peace. But which part of their charism equates to breaking and entering, let alone throwing human blood?

(but I **am **glad they didn’t keep the sister in jail)

 

[adrift]

She still has to go to trial.
The federal government Friday filed new and more serious charges — felony destruction of property — against three protesters who sneaked into the Y-12 nuclear weapons plant last weekend and defaced the exterior of the Oak Ridge plant’s bomb-grade uranium storehouse with anti-war messages.

The new charges carry a maximum sentence of 5 years imprisonment, with a maximum fine of $250,000 and will be added to be trespassing charges that were filed earlier in the week. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for Thursday, Aug. 9.

The link has a video of her when she was released.

 

[ringil]

Maybe sister just wanted to help out in maintaining the reactor core.

 

[Truegrit]

And the community that she belongs to gets to pay any fine/restitution. Not good thinking on her part.

 

[Dale_M]

They saw their action as a prophetic witness against the horror of nuclear weapons.

Here is their action statement:

A STATEMENT FOR THE Y-12 FACILIITY

“Come let us go up
to the mountain of God
to the house where God lives.
That God may teach us God’s ways
That we may walk in God’s paths….

For God will bring justice among the nations and bring peace between
many peoples. They will hammer their swords into plowshares
and their spears into pruning hooks. Nations will not lift swords against
nations. No longer will they learn to make war.
Come, let us walk in the light of God.” Isaiah 2

Brothers and sisters, powers that be, we come to you today as friends,
in love. We, like many of you, are people of faith, inspired by many
who have gone before us, people like the prophets, Isaiah and Micah,
Jesus as well as Gandhi, and the countless who call us ‘to beat swords
into plowshares’. May we now transform weapons into real, life-giving
alternatives, to build true peace.

We come to the Y-12 facility because our very humanity rejects the
designs of nuclearism, empire and war. Our faith in love and nonviolence
encourages us to believe that our activity here is necessary; that we
come to invite transformation, undo the past and present work of Y-
12; disarm and end any further efforts to increase the Y-12 capacity for
an economy and social structure based upon war-making and empire-
building.

A loving and compassionate Creator invites us to take the urgent and
decisive steps to transform the U.S.empire, and this facility, into
life-giving alternatives which resolve real problems of poverty and
environmental degradation for all.

We begin together by preparing our minds and hearts for this
transformation. And so we bring gifts to symbolize this transformation,
instruments that serve life, peace and harmony, truth and healing to this
nuclear weapons plant and everywhere.

We bring our life-symbols: blood, for healing and pouring out our lives in
service and love. Our very humanity depends on lives given, not taken.
But blood also reminds us of the horrific spilling of blood by nuclear
weapons.
-our hammers, to begin the transforming work
of deconstructing war machines, creating new jobs which address real
problems, eliminate poverty, heal and foster the fullness of life for all.
We bring our truth-symbols: candles, for light transforms fear and secrecy
into authentic security;
-flowers, the White Rose of forgiveness,
acceptance of friendship and genuine reconciliation.

-the crime tape and an Indictment, which
point out truth and end lies which have blinded and dulled the very
conscience of nations, and serve the interests of justice for healing global
relationships.
-a Bible, to remind ourselves to become
sources of wisdom and to inspire our acts of conscience as we carry on.

Lastly we bring food, symbolized by this bread, strengthening us as we
build this new world where people do not feel compelled to build nuclear
weapons in order to feed their families. So may we break and share
this bread together in joy and genuine friendship as we work together,
empowered by our Creating God

transformnowplowshares.wordpress.com/about/statement/

 

[Dale_M]

And the community that she belongs to gets to pay any fine/restitution.

Possibly, although the organization (Transform Now Plowshares) to which she belongs may have the funds, too.

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

What does it say about our national security when an 82 year old woman can gain access inside the perimeter, then walk for 2 hours to the building and still have time to paint slogans and throw blood?

What would the outcome have been had this been a group of trained and armed terrorists?

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Not even close to the same thing. If the United States got rid of all its nuclear weapons and every other country that had them kept them where does that leave the US. I’m sure we can trust them all not to threaten the United States.

What ever are you replying to? You’re talking about eliminating nuclear weapons and I was replying to your suggestion that those protestors go to Iran et al to protest.

 

[TheDoors]

Careful, they’ll be locking up ALL the retirement-age nuns next. Terr-or-ists, the lot of 'em!

 

[Prodigal_Son1]

I understand that some communities of religious sisters have shifted their mission from teaching and caring for the sick and hungry to working for peace. But which part of their charism equates to breaking and entering, let alone throwing human blood?

(but I **am **glad they didn’t keep the sister in jail)

There’s no difference of breaking laws, for the purposes of non violent protests/demonstrations: i.e. breaking and entering and blocking the entrance of a building/unlawful assembly, such as the entrance way to an abortion clinic. That’s just one example. I’m sure, with a little research, one could find many instances of Catholic leaders/religious arrested for an array of charges due to protests/demonstrations.

 

[Corki]

I still want to know how she got to this place. She is a sister in the Society of the Holy Child Jesus. Their original mission (from their website):

Cornelia Connelly, an American, a loving wife and mother, a zealous convert, was to become, through extraordinary circumstances, the Foundress of the Society of the Holy Child Jesus in England in 1846. Her life story and experience enabled her to respond to the need for works of mercy among the poor, especially that of the education of young women and children.

At the same time her sisters often engaged in spiritual ministry and helped in parishes. But it was primarily as educators that she trained them, and her educational system was highly praised for its innovative and effective human methods. The heritage of respect for the dignity of every human being which Cornelia gave her community has been translated through the generations as a spirit of trust and of reverence for all God’s people. In 1862 six sisters from England took the Society to the United States. Initiatives of European and North American sisters followed in the next century.

How do you go from there to breaking into secure facilities, vandalism and throwing blood?!?