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Instead I’m pointing out that logically, one can easily dismiss any argument that focuses on the tu quoque appeal.
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No.

A tu quoque would be me saying this is wrong BECAUSE CNN does it. And Rush is right.

I didn’t say that.

I agreed above Rush is wrong (go back and read it).

I said it is wrong BOTH ways, but YOU only acknowledge ONE way.

The media does the same thing.

And that hypocrisy is part of what makes mainstream media so untrustworthy to many middle Americans.

And mainstream media IS UNTRUSTWORTHY.

Not because of the “You too” (tu quo que).

But because of their hypocrisy.

And the reason for that is politics and political manipulation. And people are falling for that less and less.
 
You’ve stated that you have no interest in persuading others here. That seems slightly bizarre to me.
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Go ahead and consider it bizarre. But re-read what I said correctly. You have distorted what I said.
 
angel12 . . . .
Right. So it’s all the media’s fault for reporting what is said by the President of the United States.
You’re implying that, therefore, they should NOT report his attacks on the press and on politicians who dare to disagree with him.

Works for me.
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More condescension, distortion, and partial truths of what I said.

These are the “arguments” not really worth attempting to “convince”.
 
I haven’t listened to him for a number of years, but wasn’t part of his show dedicated to parody songs? When he addresses his listeners in Yoma Linda, I thought that was supposed to be funny.
 
gracepoole . . . .
Why engage in a discussion with those who share dissenting opinions then?
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You know gracepoole.

I just got done telling you if you want to discuss the issues, I would be happy to do so.

These jabs of yours are not “discussion”.
 
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This is the standard we’re using?
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How many “shows” do I need to listen to gracepoole, before I am allowed to give my opinion of Rush Limbaugh?

Like I said. If you want to discuss the issues, would be happy to do so.
 
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At least I didn’t base any conclusions on my own limited experiences with the guy.
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What are you basing them on then?
 
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Nope. According to Limbaugh, the Pope is a Marxist.
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I never criticize the Pontiff; so we all have faults… thankfully, I haven’t done that but… I did hear Rush discuss this once, and he was saying something Pope Francis said “that’s Marxism folks”, so, I will read the article fully later.
 
That with Chelsea Clinton was almost 25 years ago, all in all, for radio time, the faults people find must be less than 1% of air time. He may have denied that with Chelsea…if that was the reference to his TV show… I will read all of these articles later. On his tv show, his camera man might have done that and not Rush.
 
Ah, the piquant scent of irony, full of vinegar and sour grapes. A heady brew.
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You know Jharek. You are just making my point about people who want to level insults but not have the discussion.

If you want to have the discussion, I will be more than happy to attempt that with you.
 
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Apparently, bad behaviour or such remarks as these become acceptable
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Nobody here has said such things are “acceptable”. Nobody.

Why not deal with the issues of reliability of news here and apply it uniformly?

If I show you a CNN host using the N-word, will you write-off CNN as newsworthy?

Should people write-off all of Rush because of such inappropriate non-sense?
 
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This is not a false flag.

This is a guy who was looking for attention.

And you liberal media . . . . accommodated him.
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As I pointed out before, it would have been irresponsible not to report potentially explosive devices when lives could still be lost if people were not on alert. And at that time, it was not known that the devices did not have detonators. Law enforcement and the FBI certainly were not against notifying potential victims.
 
As I pointed out before, it would have been irresponsible not to report potentially explosive devices when lives could still be lost if people were not on alert.
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And I absolutely agree with you here Leaf.

My issue was the WAY they “reported” it. As if this was President Trump’s fault (immediately jumping to that conclusion).
 
CNN was broadcasting live when the alarms were sounded to evacuate. Entire NYC streets were closed. How could they not report that?
 
LeafByNiggle . . . .
I don’t recall that CNN ever said anything as bad as the Pope being a Marxist.
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That isn’t my point Leaf.

My point is CNN says plenty of unacceptable things.

But people on the left just keep ignoring it while calling out others.

And I don’t think those people mean it. After all, if they meant it, they would complain about ALL “unacceptable things.” And they don’t.

Why?

Because it is politics that’s why. At least that is MY conclusion. (And that takes away from the REAL issues doesn’t it? I mean really. Everything President Trump says is “racist” kinda takes the meaning out of “racism”. And taking the meaning out of racism hurts REAL victims of racism.)
 
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(name removed by moderator) on CNN and others using the N-word on air . . . .
It really depends how the host uses that word . . .
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I gotta be honest and tell you (name removed by moderator).

It is my opinion that if President Trump ever used the N-word, you would be one of the first here to attack him over that no matter what the context was.

I am drawing that conclusion from reading your posts and my interpretation.

I may be wrong. Maybe you would be here DEFENDING President Trump.

(I’ve been wrong before)

But what about the people who DON’T think it is OK to use the N-word on a national TV news program? In ANY context? Diamond and Silk for example, have asked that ALL people INCLUDING Blacks, refrain from this, or face the fact that ALL CAN use it.

If it was just you and I maybe we would be able to get past it. But this is part of a national (or international) discussion.

Look. If you feel that way, that is fine for you to have your own opinion.
But people who enjoy Rush Limbaugh may have the same opinion of the context of his inappropriate statements.

I think the Limbaugh examples here are out of bounds too.

But I have heard enough of Limbaugh, where I am pretty sure I can overlook his inappropriate comments (like his anti-Catholic comment above that appears to me to be out of ignorance).

You have got to draw your own conclusions, but others need that same freedom.

As I have said many times on these forums. I think ALL the news outlets have their biases and these days those biases are pretty easy to see.

And the motivations appear to be . . . . political.
 
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As I pointed out before, it would have been irresponsible not to report potentially explosive devices when lives could still be lost if people were not on alert.
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How immediate was it? Did you see the very first reports? It seemed to me it was several days before commentary appeared about Trump being a possible motivation.
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