Vatican newspaper article criticizes dissent from Amoris Laetitia [CWN]

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L’Osservatore Romano has published an article criticizing “dissent in the form of public criticism” of Pope Francis’s apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

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The problem is, there is not much in the way of magisterium in AL. Just hints and advice.
 
Those voicing concern are only saying that Amoris Laetitia must be read and interpreted in continuity with the magisterium of the Catholic Church which extends far more than one pope.

Catholics have no obligation to disobey magisterial teaching on the basis of what this priest calls a “non-definitional teaching” that is “NOT guaranteed by the charism of infallibility”.

He therefore acknowledges that it is possibly erroneous and yet demands Catholics obey an interpretation of it that contradicts teaching that IS guaranteed by the charism of infallibility in an ecumenical Council and 2000 years of constant teaching by all Catholic bishops everywhere in the world including the bishops of Rome.

I agree we must obey the pope’s non-infallible teachings too and not brush them aside but disagree that we must do so even if it contradicts magisterial teaching.

The pope can’t create new truths and then demand obedience to those new truths for if they are new then they are by definition NOT Catholic.

But if he is NOT creating new truths then there IS NO DISSENT because those who are voicing concern only insist that his “non-definitional teaching NOT guaranteed by the charism of infallibility” be interpreted in continuity with and not in contradiction of that which has been “believed everywhere in the same sense” for 2000 years and therefore Catholic.
 
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L’Osservatore Romano has published an article criticizing “dissent in the form of public criticism” of Pope Francis’s apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia.

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At some point, we Catholics are going to answer to God for entertaining this nonsense so ignorantly and/or submissively. If a failure to do that makes me a dissenter, making life difficult for the Vatican AL reformers, thanks be to God. That is about the highest compliment you can be paid as a Catholic, indeed as a Christian.

A must read:
catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=715
 
FollowChrist34 said:
At some point, we Catholics are going to answer to God for entertaining this nonsense so ignorantly and/or submissively. If a failure to do that makes me a dissenter, making life difficult for the Vatican AL reformers, thanks be to God. That is about the highest compliment you can be paid as a Catholic, indeed as a Christian.

A must read:
catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=715
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Dr Mirus puts it very nicely (in the classic sense of the word).
 
Justin_Swanton said:
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Dr Mirus puts it very nicely (in the classic sense of the word).
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Nicely written too. Has a real snap to it. Normally he is so diplomatic, academic, studied. (not that he would ever abandon any of that, just picks up the pace)

:irish3: He’s earned a pint to my mind.
 
There could be more respect for the Pope, we do not want to take ignorant shots at the highest position on planet earth.
 
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There could be more respect for the Pope, we do not want to take ignorant shots at the highest position on planet earth.
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Fr. Pié-Ninot’s criticism is based on the claim that some Catholics are guilty of “dissent in the form of public criticism”. But there are two glaring errors in this claim. First, criticism is not dissent unless it takes the form of denying the truth of something the Church has taught. Second—and this is the main point—as a general rule those who have criticized the Pope’s approach to divorce, remarriage and Communion have not denied the truth of anything Pope Francis has officially taught.
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catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=715

Just for the record - this is Mirus’ point. To classify criticisms of the distortions and confusion surrounding AL and its application in pastoral practice as ‘dissent’ is false. We are criticizing dissent. From an informed, orthodox standpoint, as is our duty. The proponents of AL are the ones in ignorance and dissent, harming the Church. (though I don’t think the dissent is being done in ignorance; I think it is intentional, in many cases anyway)

(I’ll put this attack from Fr. Pié-Ninot under ‘persecution in the name of Christ’ - and will bear it accordingly.) That is literally what it is folks.
 
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