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DENNYINMI
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I didn’t see a post that indicated this.
I did see a post following one that was deciphering other countries and these issues.
Homelessness and drugs can be a consequence of a poor economy, within economically depressed communities we see it frequently. Furthermore, poor economics creates refugees of those attempting to flee these conditions.
Could you indicate where the Venezuelans were being likened to this?
I would care to read it.
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qui_est_ce
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Is Saudi Arabia suffering from plummeting oil prices? UAW?
Qatar currently enjoys the region’s highest per capita GDP at $101,000.[42] It has derived its wealth from exploiting its natural gas reserves. With the revenues from its hydrocarbon industries Qatar has established a rentier economy. Qatar has also established the largest per capita sovereign wealth fund in the world. With a population under one million, the government has not found it necessary to diversify its economy.
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Main article: Economy of QatarQatar currently enjoys the region’s highest per capita GDP at $101,000.[42] It has derived its wealth from exploiting its natural gas reserves. With the revenues from its hydrocarbon industries Qatar has established a rentier economy. Qatar has also established the largest per capita sovereign wealth fund in the world. With a population under one million, the government has not found it necessary to diversify its economy.
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Regular_Atheist
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The fact that most of the imperialist world has rallied around Guiado is not a point in his favour. This is a man who never even ran in an election, and a man who has called for stricter sanctions against the country he supposedly represents
The fact that you want to play down Bolsonaro’s terrible government is pretty telling, as is the fact that Guiado and international capital do the same.
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qui_est_ce
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Most of the homeless I have seen in Santa Monica and LA are white males. Santa Monica is not an economically depressed city.qui_est_ce:
I didn’t see a post that indicated this.
I did see a post following one that was deciphering other countries and these issues.
Homelessness and drugs can be a consequence of a poor economy, within economically depressed communities we see it frequently. Furthermore, poor economics creates refugees of those attempting to flee these conditions.
I read that post as likening scavenging Venezuelans to homeless in the US. Maybe I am wrong?
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Theo520
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Nope, wrong.
Oil prices only exacerbated what their govt had wrought.
They’d still be in a pickle with high oil prices,
Govt mismanagement was reducing production and increasing costs. Their social welfare was also sucking up the cash they did get.
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DENNYINMI
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Thank you for pointing that out. I believe the poster was asking a question but I could be wrong.
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DENNYINMI
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I’d respectfully disagree mainly due to cause and effect.
When ones economics is based on a 95% oil export and one looses that income substantially, surely there will be suffering if not managed correctly. The management of the money and the government managing it was not being praised!~
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qui_est_ce
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As I said, I took the question to mean he was making a comparison with American homeless people scavenging with Venezuelens. @AlNg Was I wrong?
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Rockoh22
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Of what I understand, the situation was exacerbated by Chavez Social programs. Claiming a free country while running a socialist utopia. He also change control of all mayor companies to the control of the government, and even the bank is government run. All of this while oil barrels where at over $100 a barrel, which helped him keep up some of this. And he asked for more money and creating the largest debt of any country.
Then the oil prices went down, and he could not pay for all the Social programs he had placed, and then came Maduro, or something like that.
Well, with Maduro, things got a whole lot worst than they where. Now being broke, and controlling everything, it is all about how imperialism is the problem. Which makes no sense, since they are socialist, and control everything.
As I also understand, Juan Guaidó did not just popped out of the blue. He is someone kind of like the third in power or something like that. And using their constitution, and the recent failed elections, he claimed that Maduro is no longer in charge and that leads him to power.
It is a whole mess, and this goes back to many many years. Chavez for example lead two failed government coups before he was elected.
Then the oil prices went down, and he could not pay for all the Social programs he had placed, and then came Maduro, or something like that.
Well, with Maduro, things got a whole lot worst than they where. Now being broke, and controlling everything, it is all about how imperialism is the problem. Which makes no sense, since they are socialist, and control everything.
As I also understand, Juan Guaidó did not just popped out of the blue. He is someone kind of like the third in power or something like that. And using their constitution, and the recent failed elections, he claimed that Maduro is no longer in charge and that leads him to power.
It is a whole mess, and this goes back to many many years. Chavez for example lead two failed government coups before he was elected.
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Victoria33
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So it’s pretty telling. Yet, you have given no examples, the man has been in office for 2 months and you call the government “terrible”, this is pretty close to a personal attack if not so maybe this conversation will not even continue as far as that is concerned. I have seen no examples of a terrible government by Bolsonaro (no, a tweet does not qualify).
I’d say the free world recognizes him.
Okay, and the countries rallying around Maduro are indeed, totalitarian states, human rights violators, unfree countries, dictatorships and that means
China
Turkey
Russia
(Maybe) Syria
Cuba
Iran
So, indeed, the opposite side is certainly nothing to be proud of. This map is from the end of January, the EU called for free elections to make their decisions. Free Elections have not been called, therefore, I believe the EU can be included in the “Imperialist” bloc. And most of Latin America.
Now, some of the EU do recognize Guiado, I guess, these nations are all the Imperialist world. One has to check the latest. Sweden at a minimum called for elections.
From the CNN article:
To all! The refugee crisis does not lie, see Spain above? They have over 200,000 Venezuelan refugees as well, per the United Nations own figures.
Again, I would personally say the refugee crisis is the most tell tale sign of what is happening in VZ.
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qui_est_ce
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What is an imperialist country?
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Victoria33
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I think sometimes words are just to throw into a conversation, I’ve heard often, concerning other matters, “neo-con”, well, one is being a neo-con in such and such a situation.
Ecuador I guess, is an imperialist country.
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Regular_Atheist
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He has already essentially handed over the fate of the Amazon to large-scale agricultural capital. He has been praised almost universally for being “friendly” to international capital, and promoting “neoliberal” policies. He has shown himself to be open even to the idea of allowing a US military base in Brazil. This is all ignoring his general nationalist, racist and homophobic rhetoric, which is not irrelevant despite what you’d like to imply.
Besides representing pretty unpleasant social forces within Brazil, he’s loved by much of the developed capitalist world because he promises to be mostly subservient to the needs of international capital.
Of course. Imperialism is a feature of capitalism, not a product of national flaws. Capital naturally divides nation-states into competing imperialist blocs. My point is merely that the opposition to Venezuela is an imperialist one, and is not driven by any earnest concern for the well being of the Venezuelan people.
Saudi Arabia was mentioned earlier in the thread, and how they continue to prosper despite declining oil prices. Despite the oppressive state of their government, there is no call from the UK or USA for regime change. What is the difference between them and Venezuela, do you think?
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Theo520
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@Regular_Atheist
So you are saying they like him because he promises to do what works,
what has been shown time and time again to get an economy working (regulated capitalism),
to get his people productively employed AND FED.
Yea, I can see why you think that’s despicable.
So you are saying they like him because he promises to do what works,
what has been shown time and time again to get an economy working (regulated capitalism),
to get his people productively employed AND FED.
Yea, I can see why you think that’s despicable.
Imperialism: a policy of extending a country’s power and influence through diplomacy or military force.
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Imperialism is a hallmark of socialism.
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Victoria33
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I think I posted one of his videos before, Senator Rubio, I’m not saying everything he is saying is true but a lot of it probably is.
So like him or not, even he talks about the refugee situation, that may be the prime crisis in all of this.
BUT, yesterday, the whole country had serious blackouts.
This is horrible if true.
So like him or not, even he talks about the refugee situation, that may be the prime crisis in all of this.
BUT, yesterday, the whole country had serious blackouts.
https://abc7.com/3-dead-in-venezuela-after-widespread-outage-leaves-hospitals-without-power/4506331/
This is horrible if true.
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Rockoh22
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The question is… what can we do? Well we can plead to God with the help of our blessed Mother. They know better that we do on what to do.
Hail Mary Full of grace…
Hail Mary Full of grace…
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Theo520
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That article is rubbish. People are constantly dying in hospitals all across the world, whether the power is on or off. The article gave no connection they would still be alive if the blackout had not occured.
I totally agree lack of power is a very serious problem, I just don’t like how the writer fakes a connection between the data and the issue to sensationalize a story on power outages.
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Victoria33
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https://www.aljazeera.com/blogs/ame...ackout-electricity-chemo-190308222411581.html
You certainly are welcomed to your opinion. I can see how lacking electricity would greatly complicate matters at hospitals. I think it’s a very good article.
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