I just watched the Holy Father de-plane. I do not see where I should be working up more contempt or scorn from a Catholic perspective than the Pope. Isn’t that the very definition of being more Catholic than the Pope?
Absolutely NO Catholic should take pride in Biden, who promotes heresy and evil. He is a source of utter contempt and scorn for what the Catholic Church in this country has become.
Nothing personal, but San Francisco isn’t exactly the place I’d look to for endorsement of morality. Given how many avowed Catholics there that wanted to ride the Archbishop out on the rails I’d question what they believe a good Catholic politician is. As for Catholics should be proud of him, all I can say is…
:thumbsup:San Francisco has as many moral Catholics as any other place. I suspect that every bishop and archbishop has people that want them to go. Heck, there are Catholics that don’t approve of the Holy Spirit’s choice for Pope.Nothing personal, but San Francisco isn’t exactly the place I’d look to for endorsement of morality. Given how many avowed Catholics there that wanted to ride the Archbishop out on the rails I’d question what they believe a good Catholic politician is. As for Catholics should be proud of him, all I can say is…
San Francisco is a very diverse city (and Diocese), and yes it is has many Catholics of all kinds. We are an immigrant city, so there is that population. And we are a very liberal city, so there is that population. And the new Archbishop is trying to bring the conservative members to stand along side of the others.
I’m not unhappy with San Francisco. I grew up there. I wish I still lived there instead of Topeka. I was responding to Usige. I agree with your description and get annoyed with people that use a broad brush to suggest that everyone in the city are bad.
Thank you. I love this city and think it has so much to offer in its diversity. Topeka must be a bit different. No ocean, hills, palm trees, are there?
and that is just the beginning of the list. But they do have Westboro Baptist. Which, I hope, people won’t judge me by them.
And here I was certain I didn’t leave my chair. But I must have blinked and missed seeing the Pope all worked up with contempt and scorn over heresy and evil when President Obama and the First Family along with Vice President Biden and Mrs Biden and 2 of the Vice President’s grandchildren greeted him today.
I saw very gracious people welcoming a wonderful Church leader. I saw the Pope and Fidel Castro being just as gracious. There is a lot to come - I hope we can all watch and listen to what this man has to say. I’m kind of excited that he will meet one of MY Bishops tomorrow (heretic and evil that he is - harrumph). Seriously, it’s all good.And here I was certain I didn’t leave my chair. But I must have blinked and missed seeing the Pope all worked up with contempt and scorn over heresy and evil when President Obama and the First Family along with Vice President Biden and Mrs Biden and 2 of the Vice President’s grandchildren greeted him today.
Unfortunately I missed him with Fidel but saw him with Raul. Yes it’s all good. I didn’t know about tomorrow but now that I do, I am excited too that Francis and one of your bishops will be meeting. I will have to await the reports of Francis’s scorn and contempt for your bishop. Something is telling me though I’ll be waiting a long time.
There may be as many as many orthodox Catholic in the Bay area as any other place, but those that are heterodox seem to rejoice in their rejection of Church authority. It’s like the juvenile rejection of authority and conformity from Haight-Ashbury has been embraced as a source of pride. The laissez-faire attitude is what I was pointing at. Most San Franciscans I know or work with on a daily basis appear to have a moral compass that point 10 ways to Sunday. My way, your way, and any other way is perfectly fine. I’d be suprised if 5% of San Franciscans I know that beleive that there is a single truth. They almost universally embrace a relativistic attitude with regards to morals.
I may be wrong here, but I am going to assume you don’t live in San Francisco. If you did, you might have a different picture. Riding the bus,to work each day, you will most likely see people saying their rosary. At lunch time, many people are at Mass at St Patrick’s, old St Mary’s, or St Joseph’s. Most parishes have 4 masses on Sunday. There are several schools serving the children along with CCD classes. St Anthony’s is very involved in feeding the poor and working with the homeless. Mother Teresa’s order has many sisters working in the city.
The Holy Father, as head of the Church and as a head of state, is diplomatically welcoming other heads of state.
This is not Church teaching. The Holy Spirit protects the Pope from teaching error. The Church does not teach that the Holy Spirit selects the Pope.
So by your logic, it’s okay to be a socialist, murdering dictator because Pope Francis was polite to Fidel.
Well with 7 children there is no way I could afford to live in the Bay area and I’m not driving 2 hours to find a home. I was out there right after we found out we were expecting our 7th and mentioned it to a Catholic coworker. You would have thought I just told him I had grown a third eye.
Thanks for posting their names. May their spark grow unto a flame.
Well, that is quite an assumption you make.
It is true, San Francisco is liberal, and the Church here may look a little different than in other places. But most communities have their own people and feel to it as well as practices. It doesn’t make one community better or worse.