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Augustine3 - In Islam conflicting ‘truths’ appear accepted and tolerated, so ‘two wrongs making a right’ can’t be much of a problem. By manipulation of exclusivism, inclusivism, and pluralism all things can be shoehorned to ‘fit’ one way or another. The favourite catch all is the phrase, ‘you are not taking the ‘---------’ {whatever] in context’. The reality is that ‘the context’ lies with and in the mind of the person who uses such a phrase, and their reasoning can be very irrational and/or slippery.
 
Augustine3 - In Islam conflicting ‘truths’ appear accepted and tolerated, so ‘two wrongs making a right’ can’t be much of a problem. By manipulation of exclusivism, inclusivism, and pluralism all things can be shoehorned to ‘fit’ one way or another. The favourite catch all is the phrase, ‘you are not taking the ‘---------’ {whatever] in context’. The reality is that ‘the context’ lies with and in the mind of the person who uses such a phrase, and their reasoning can be very irrational and/or slippery.
I agree 100% 👍
 
I could respond to all the messages here, but at the end of the day I choose to worship God and God alone. Not a statue, not an idol, not a man/Prophet labeling him as God and for that reason Islam is enough for me as it associates no partners with God. As God is perfect and has no partners, no son, no wife, no partners. God is perfect. And to say that it is only so God can understand us better, who will know us better than a creator. God will understand me and does not need to sacrifice himself for my sins, because all I need to do is ASK and talk directly to God and he can forgive me for my sins.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, I have no quarrels with Christianity other than assigning God a son. As for all the opinions/beliefs people have about Islam who betters knows the religion than its followers, all the things people have quote about war/wives/death I have heard it all before and it does not put me off because I actually read these events in context. As opposed to getting someone with no knowledge of the religion to interpret it.

For example saying Muhammed(PBUH) lived a more wordly life as opposed to Jesus(PBUH), Jesus(PBUH) lived a wordly life to but it was cut short and will continue when he returns. Muhammed(PBUH) did not approve celibacy and recommended marriage to avoid sins such as sex outside of marriage, and God forbid rape and peadophiles. Sadly as i’m sure u are aware of the tarnished reputation of priests/gangs etc… and hence celibacy/sex outside marriage is forbidden. The Prophet(saw) life was an example to us, if having many wives was just about lust why did he refuse the most beautiful women of arabia offered to him only marrying widows/divorcees and the only unmarried women being Aisha(ra) and Maria the Christian who accepted Islam and the reason for some marriages not lust but to provide safety and security to the women widowed/divorced plus peace/unity between tribes not lust. So people can say lust as many times as they want it does not convince me.

As for the wordly wealth, what wealth, he was married to Khadija(ra) his first and one of his most beloved wife and never married anyone whilst married to her. She was a very wealthy woman and when Islam began, they spent the wealth in providing to the poor and even going days without food so that the more hungry poor could eat. The tribe even at some point tried to cut of their trade/business so they became even more more and eventually Khadija(ra) died during this impoverished time as they had spent their wealth in charity.

The battles were to fight oppression and persecution and invading and warring tribes. I can think of no other army where it is part of the religion, not to harm women and children. The ‘loot’ that were spilt is part of any war. Do you not think the US benefits from the war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc… (oil/resources control) so that is naturally part of any battle. I cannot think of any war/battle that has not taken the loot but at least in Islam it is forbidden to harm the women and children and kill innocent civilians. Whether or not people in todays day follow it is another thing but it is a law set to us by God.

Neways I could go more into it, but people already clearly have a biased black and white picture whereas I have read more into it myself. Even I had my questions about it but I prefer the honorable way they fought wars back then as opposed to what the US and other armies ie Syrian/Israeli armies fight. Recent reports of a US soldier raping a child and killing her and her family as he did not see them as humans?! Israeli soldiers arresting a 5year old child?! Don’t look at the individuals to represent the people/religion, look at the religion.

Neways I cannot explain it any further, I just wished to give a olive branch of peace.
 
Many of Jesus’ teachings are so profound that they almost bring me to tears sometimes when I hear them read in Mass. I’d like to see the passages from the Koran that are equally as profound. I seriously doubt they exist.
 
I could respond to all the messages here, but at the end of the day I choose to worship God and God alone. Not a statue, not an idol, not a man/Prophet labeling him as God and for that reason Islam is enough for me as it associates no partners with God. As God is perfect and has no partners, no son, no wife, no partners. God is perfect. And to say that it is only so God can understand us better, who will know us better than a creator. God will understand me and does not need to sacrifice himself for my sins, because all I need to do is ASK and talk directly to God and he can forgive me for my sins.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, I have no quarrels with Christianity other than assigning God a son. As for all the opinions/beliefs people have about Islam who betters knows the religion than its followers, all the things people have quote about war/wives/death I have heard it all before and it does not put me off because I actually read these events in context. As opposed to getting someone with no knowledge of the religion to interpret it.

For example saying Muhammed(PBUH) lived a more wordly life as opposed to Jesus(PBUH), Jesus(PBUH) lived a wordly life to but it was cut short and will continue when he returns. Muhammed(PBUH) did not approve celibacy and recommended marriage to avoid sins such as sex outside of marriage, and God forbid rape and peadophiles. Sadly as i’m sure u are aware of the tarnished reputation of priests/gangs etc… and hence celibacy/sex outside marriage is forbidden. The Prophet(saw) life was an example to us, if having many wives was just about lust why did he refuse the most beautiful women of arabia offered to him only marrying widows/divorcees and the only unmarried women being Aisha(ra) and Maria the Christian who accepted Islam and the reason for some marriages not lust but to provide safety and security to the women widowed/divorced plus peace/unity between tribes not lust. So people can say lust as many times as they want it does not convince me.

As for the wordly wealth, what wealth, he was married to Khadija(ra) his first and one of his most beloved wife and never married anyone whilst married to her. She was a very wealthy woman and when Islam began, they spent the wealth in providing to the poor and even going days without food so that the more hungry poor could eat. The tribe even at some point tried to cut of their trade/business so they became even more more and eventually Khadija(ra) died during this impoverished time as they had spent their wealth in charity.

The battles were to fight oppression and persecution and invading and warring tribes. I can think of no other army where it is part of the religion, not to harm women and children. The ‘loot’ that were spilt is part of any war. Do you not think the US benefits from the war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc… (oil/resources control) so that is naturally part of any battle. I cannot think of any war/battle that has not taken the loot but at least in Islam it is forbidden to harm the women and children and kill innocent civilians. Whether or not people in todays day follow it is another thing but it is a law set to us by God.

Neways I could go more into it, but people already clearly have a biased black and white picture whereas I have read more into it myself. Even I had my questions about it but I prefer the honorable way they fought wars back then as opposed to what the US and other armies ie Syrian/Israeli armies fight. Recent reports of a US soldier raping a child and killing her and her family as he did not see them as humans?! Israeli soldiers arresting a 5year old child?! Don’t look at the individuals to represent the people/religion, look at the religion.

Neways I cannot explain it any further, I just wished to give a olive branch of peace.
Missy, as a peaceful Muslim, I assume you believe in religious freedom, right? In other words, you want a society in which members of all faiths can freely worship as they choose, right? How do Muslim countries fare in allowing non-Muslims to worship as they wish?

I met a young Muslim lady about a year ago. I asked her whether she could convert to Christianity if she wanted. “I would probably be killed if I did that,” she said. Religion of peace indeed.

I don’t agree with Bill Maher on many things, but he’s dead-on here:

youtube.com/watch?v=Kiay9x6lC3o
 
I took Shahada today. 🙂

The beheading video was definately gory.
 
That is my understanding.
If you ever consider becoming a Christian, just keep this teaching from our Lord in mind (from Matthew 10):

16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22 You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

24 “The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!

26 “So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27 What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
…, I have no quarrels with Christianity other than assigning God a son. …

Neways I cannot explain it any further, I just wished to give a olive branch of peace.
And this quarrel, or shall I say the Muslim quarrel with Christianity is much more serious than many realize. Any Christian – that is ALL of them – by saying God has a son is committing blasphemy under Islamic law. Muslims don’t take well to this, as is evidenced today with Xians all around the middle east being killed and thrown out of churches.

Look up the hadith about how Muhammad talked about Christians and Jews. It’s frightening.

Ironically, Islam’s worst enemy is its own texts, which are all freely available online for those who have time and inclination to read them.
 
I could respond to all the messages here, but at the end of the day I choose to worship God and God alone. Not a statue, not an idol, not a man/Prophet labeling him as God and for that reason Islam is enough for me as it associates no partners with God. As God is perfect and has no partners, no son, no wife, no partners. God is perfect. And to say that it is only so God can understand us better, who will know us better than a creator. God will understand me and does not need to sacrifice himself for my sins, because all I need to do is ASK and talk directly to God and he can forgive me for my sins.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, I have no quarrels with Christianity other than assigning God a son. As for all the opinions/beliefs people have about Islam who betters knows the religion than its followers, all the things people have quote about war/wives/death I have heard it all before and it does not put me off because I actually read these events in context. As opposed to getting someone with no knowledge of the religion to interpret it.

For example saying Muhammed(PBUH) lived a more wordly life as opposed to Jesus(PBUH), Jesus(PBUH) lived a wordly life to but it was cut short and will continue when he returns. Muhammed(PBUH) did not approve celibacy and recommended marriage to avoid sins such as sex outside of marriage, and God forbid rape and peadophiles. Sadly as i’m sure u are aware of the tarnished reputation of priests/gangs etc… and hence celibacy/sex outside marriage is forbidden. The Prophet(saw) life was an example to us, if having many wives was just about lust why did he refuse the most beautiful women of arabia offered to him only marrying widows/divorcees and the only unmarried women being Aisha(ra) and Maria the Christian who accepted Islam and the reason for some marriages not lust but to provide safety and security to the women widowed/divorced plus peace/unity between tribes not lust. So people can say lust as many times as they want it does not convince me.

As for the wordly wealth, what wealth, he was married to Khadija(ra) his first and one of his most beloved wife and never married anyone whilst married to her. She was a very wealthy woman and when Islam began, they spent the wealth in providing to the poor and even going days without food so that the more hungry poor could eat. The tribe even at some point tried to cut of their trade/business so they became even more more and eventually Khadija(ra) died during this impoverished time as they had spent their wealth in charity.

The battles were to fight oppression and persecution and invading and warring tribes. I can think of no other army where it is part of the religion, not to harm women and children. The ‘loot’ that were spilt is part of any war. Do you not think the US benefits from the war in Iraq, Afghanistan etc… (oil/resources control) so that is naturally part of any battle. I cannot think of any war/battle that has not taken the loot but at least in Islam it is forbidden to harm the women and children and kill innocent civilians. Whether or not people in todays day follow it is another thing but it is a law set to us by God.

Neways I could go more into it, but people already clearly have a biased black and white picture whereas I have read more into it myself. Even I had my questions about it but I prefer the honorable way they fought wars back then as opposed to what the US and other armies ie Syrian/Israeli armies fight. Recent reports of a US soldier raping a child and killing her and her family as he did not see them as humans?! Israeli soldiers arresting a 5year old child?! Don’t look at the individuals to represent the people/religion, look at the religion.

Neways I cannot explain it any further, I just wished to give a olive branch of peace.
The neat thing about Jesus is that we don’t have to defend His conduct and teaching because everything He did was perfect.

Let’s face it, if Somalia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia accepted what Jesus said in the Bible instead of what Muhammad said in the Hadith, there would be less of what you call “perverted Islam” where Churches are being bombed and Christians are being murdered.

I pray that more in the middle east accept Jesus for who He truly is. A lot less people will be killed that way.

We are now in day 24 of Ramadan with 239 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam 23 suicide bombings and 1211 “infidels” left dead.

These people need Jesus. End of story.
 
It is disturbing that one cannot take the Bible with him into Saudi Arabia.

That speaks tons.
 
The neat thing about Jesus is that we don’t have to defend His conduct and teaching because everything He did was perfect.

Let’s face it, if Somalia, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia accepted what Jesus said in the Bible instead of what Muhammad said in the Hadith, there would be less of what you call “perverted Islam” where Churches are being bombed and Christians are being murdered.

I pray that more in the middle east accept Jesus for who He truly is. A lot less people will be killed that way.

We are now in day 24 of Ramadan with 239 terrorist attacks in the name of Islam 23 suicide bombings and 1211 “infidels” left dead.

These people need Jesus. End of story.
They are funded by the very people that have Jesus, aka America/US/Russia. The conflict in these areas are not due to Islam, it is due to western involvement/influence. The taliban initially funded and set up by the US, well that came back and bit them in the ***. There will always be those that will try to corrupt Islam and claim that Islam is corrupted like this, but I know Islam will bring me peace. If not in this life, definitely in the next.

Israel creating a apartheid state, supressing and killing Palestinians, arresting 5year olds like they are somehow criminals, all supported by the US. Well they have Jesus US? so why not stop this oppression? It’s all foreign policy and politics from Christian countries that results in bombings and killings not Islam.
 
They are funded by the very people that have Jesus, aka America/US/Russia. The conflict in these areas are not due to Islam, it is due to western involvement/influence. The taliban initially funded and set up by the US, well that came back and bit them in the ***. There will always be those that will try to corrupt Islam and claim that Islam is corrupted like this, but I know Islam will bring me peace. If not in this life, definitely in the next.

Israel creating a apartheid state, supressing and killing Palestinians, arresting 5year olds like they are somehow criminals, all supported by the US. Well they have Jesus US? so why not stop this oppression? It’s all foreign policy and politics from Christian countries that results in bombings and killings not Islam.
Stats are stats, Missy. If I can pull up three articles just from today of Muslims persecuting (ie: bombing, murdering, destroying Churches/homes) in the name of Islam, then I’m slow to point at America as the problem. Christianity is perfect, Jesus is perfect and that’s why it’s impossible for a Christian to point to a passage in the New Testament and begin killing. Perhaps Muslims just interpret their Qur’an and Hadith wrong, but so many do it. This is not limited to one group in one small part of the Middle East.

aina.org/news/20130804131312.htm

creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/african-christians-tortured-and-enslaved-by-bedouin-muslims/

midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/egypt-muslim-brotherhood-supporters-attack-more-christians-in-minya-village/
Egypt: Christian Homes, Two Churches Attacked Back To Back – “Hours ago, dozens of Brotherhood members and supporters attacked an ‘evangelical church’ in the village of Reeda, in the governorate of al-Minya in Upper Egypt, destroying its exterior. They also opened gunfire and hurled rocks and other projectiles at the Coptic Christian homes near the church, ‘creating,’ according to the Tahrir report, “terror among the Copts, especially considering the total absence of security forces.’ A separate report, also from hours ago, tells of how another church — as well as the residence of its priest — were set on fire in the Beni Ahmed village.” Read more.
Muslim Brotherhood ‘Taking Anger Out’ On Christians – “In the wake of the military coup in Egypt earlier this month, media reports frequently recounted the violent clashes between the military and supporters of the ousted Muslim Brotherhood regime of Mohammed Morsi. What is not often reported, however, is the brutal treatment of Coptic Christians, usually at the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood. ’Members of the Muslim Brotherhood have taken their anger out specifically on Christians because many Christians wanted the Muslim Brotherhood and Morsi out of power and were speaking out, including the Coptic pope,’ said Jerry Dykstra … ‘So in the last three weeks or so, we’ve seen Christians targeted, especially a Coptic priest who was killed in northern Sinai. An Egyptian businessman was killed and beheaded in northern Sinai. Churches were also burned and Christians were driven out of their communities’ …
^^ That’s just from** today.**

I’m glad Islam brings you peace, the way that I’m glad Buddhism brings a Buddhist peace. But we need to be forgiven of our sins, because we’re a sinful world. We can try our hardest to obey the law, whether it be Jewish law or Islamic law or even Jesus’s commands to be perfect. But that’s impossible.
 
I remember being like Missy, so I can sympathize.

When you get sucked into Islam, you simply do not read Surah 9 and other references to violence in the Quran are kind of looked over. Or you tell yourself that the poor Muslims were always being attacked.

You also ignore the unsavory hadith, of which there are hundreds. You enjoy your new peace and family a giant family of victims – victims of the kafirun, who smear your beloved prophet. And you don’t like the mujahadeen, but really you support them, b/c they are fighting the kafirun and will eventually establish the peace of Islam everywhere.

However, if you’re like me, you’re not satisfied with this kind of cognitive dissonance, so you read the Ibn Ishaq and the Reliance of the Traveler and you see pictures of people living under sharia with hands cut off and women being stoned to death. And you realize that these people are living under what the Quran commands. And it strikes you that by golly, this is not a good religion.
 
Is American to blame for Muslim to Muslim violence before the USA existed ? Or is Muslim to Muslim violence just a recent thing
What happened to free will and taking responsibility for one’s own actions?
 
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