Wal-Mart redefines 'family' in new policy

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katherine2:
Sot of like voting (buying) for a candidate (product) that’s pro-choice is not a sin. Purposely voting for a candidate because he is pro-choice is a sin. Some people beleive economic sanctions to stop abortion are ineffective. Others think legal sanctions are ineffective. I beleive both can be effective and I support the use of both, though I respect those who differ on one or the other or both.
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If you think both are effective then why not support legal restrictions (which is what I think you mean by sanctions)?

It is not a sin to vote for someone who is pro-choice if there are proportionate reasons to vote for that person over the opposition candidate. I’ve not been able to find proportionate reasons with my candidates. Maybe you have.
 
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Brad:
If you think both are effective then why not support legal restrictions (which is what I think you mean by sanctions)?
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I do. I think abortion should be illegal.
It is not a sin to vote for someone who is pro-choice if there are proportionate reasons to vote for that person over the opposition candidate. I’ve not been able to find proportionate reasons with my candidates. Maybe you have.
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I appreciate your reflection and discernment.
 
The fact is, that no matter where you shop, or what you buy, your money will more than likely be used for something you oppose. I cannot possibly boycott everything. I need to buy food and other necessary items for my family without going broke. Since we are a low income family with 4 children, that means shopping at Wal-mart, Sam’s Club, Aldi, Big Lots, etc. I try to buy things produced in America, but that’s pretty hard to find sometimes. Also, I haven’t noticed anyone boycotting their cars. Where does all that gasoline come from? We would all have to raise our own livestock, spin our own cloth to make our own clothes, make our own soap, books, shoes, etc., use horses for transportation and grow their feed, and grow all our own food to make sure we never let a penny get into the hands of someone who disagrees with us. I’d rather pray that my money spent somewhere questionable goes into the paycheck of a good person who uses it to feed their children, donate to their church, etc. You could go crazy otherwise. Don’t you think? :whacky:
 
Brad,

How about standing against China’s policies and the larger companies that support them? I agree–there are many companies in the same bed, but we have to start somewhere.
 
vern,

They managed to boycott all afternoon…such courage, such strength…🙂
 
Brad,

Here’s the thing, we really are called not to cooperate with evil. The sad truth is we cannot really completely avoid that in a world that has gone crazy with sin. Yet, we are supposed to try. Imagine if all Catholics really tried to cooperate with evil…there are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world…
 
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TPJCatholic:
Brad,

How about standing against China’s policies and the larger companies that support them? I agree–there are many companies in the same bed, but we have to start somewhere.
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The problem is that it really does matter where and how we start. Are we to boycot SOME stores that do business with China, but patronize others?

Soon, those we patronize will be on the rise, and the total volume of Chinese goods will remain the same – just being sold by different stores.
 
vern,

I think if walmart took a real hit, they would change. Boycotts can and do work. There was a boycott against Dairy Queen, their parenthood company contributed to planned parenthood. The boycott lasted 3 years and they finally conceded and dropped their support of planned parenthood. Boycotts can work.
 
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Brad:
Walmart has a very open and non-discriminatory hiring policy - that is good.
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Having a policy and actually following it are two different things.
 
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TPJCatholic:
Brad,

Here’s the thing, we really are called not to cooperate with evil. The sad truth is we cannot really completely avoid that in a world that has gone crazy with sin. Yet, we are supposed to try. Imagine if all Catholics really tried to cooperate with evil…there are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world…
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TPJ:

By your own reasoning, the United States, as a country that permits abortion, capital punishment, poverty, etc. would not pass your own moral screen. Is there any society that can meet your standards?

Maybe Aruba.
 
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Many companies have ethics that are not compatible with christian theolgy.
If someone honestly believes that purchasing from a company that allows for abortions on their insurance programs, or SS domestic partners, or gives funds for eymbrionic stem cell research is a sin. Then how can one rationalize picking from one and not another?
There is no excuse for sin. So how can one rationalize it ok to use your computer? Or use a car? Gas?
 
Hogwash; I boycott walmart because living as a Christian means standing up to evil with the breast plate of Christ to protect you. one cannot rationalize following Christ. Choose whom you will serve as for me and my house we shall serve the LORD!

christ
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legeorge:
The fact is, that no matter where you shop, or what you buy, your money will more than likely be used for something you oppose. I cannot possibly boycott everything. I need to buy food and other necessary items for my family without going broke. Since we are a low income family with 4 children, that means shopping at Wal-mart, Sam’s Club, Aldi, Big Lots, etc. I try to buy things produced in America, but that’s pretty hard to find sometimes. Also, I haven’t noticed anyone boycotting their cars. Where does all that gasoline come from? We would all have to raise our own livestock, spin our own cloth to make our own clothes, make our own soap, books, shoes, etc., use horses for transportation and grow their feed, and grow all our own food to make sure we never let a penny get into the hands of someone who disagrees with us. I’d rather pray that my money spent somewhere questionable goes into the paycheck of a good person who uses it to feed their children, donate to their church, etc. You could go crazy otherwise. Don’t you think? :whacky:
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joshua1:
Having a policy and actually following it are two different things.
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It’s a policy I have personally observed in action. I haven’t actually seen the written policy. I observe the employees. All walks of life. More diverse than any other store I know.
 
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TPJCatholic:
Brad,

How about standing against China’s policies and the larger companies that support them? I agree–there are many companies in the same bed, but we have to start somewhere.
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Part of the work against China’s policies involves elements of democracy (capitalism) with them. As the people witness how capitalism works, they will have a greater desire for freedom.

It is a complex issue. I don’t believe complete isolation of China is a good solution but rather make the problems worse.
 
Ohio,

You are correct, the United States has some very evil pratices. The difference is there are millions of Americans who are trying to change that. There is a enormous spiritual battle waging across the planet, and the Untied States is not immune to that battle. Fortunately there are an awful lot of American citizens who work tirelessly to end abortion (and many other evils), with the President leading the way in many of those efforts.

I know of few other countries who citizenry is fighting daily battles to turn back the tide of sin. Abortion will eventually be made illegal, at least a good portion of them. Same sex marriage is also under great battle…time will tell.

We are not supposed to give-up the fight…we are supposed to help build the kingdom everyday.
 
Brad,

I am not saying we should cease trading with China. I am saying that we Christians should become much more discerning of where we shop and what we buy, and we should are least try to make choices that align with the kingdom of God.

Example: There was a Christian boycott against Dairy Queen because DQ’s parent company gave millions to planned parenthood. The boycott lasted for several years, yet in the end the parent company changed its policy and no longer gives money to PP. That is a victory–albeit a small one. There are 2 billion Christians in the world–through Christ we could transform the world if we just chose to do so.
 
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BOBOBIGGIE:
Hogwash; I boycott walmart because living as a Christian means standing up to evil with the breast plate of Christ to protect you. one cannot rationalize following Christ. Choose whom you will serve as for me and my house we shall serve the LORD!

christ
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Do you stand up against structures of sin by buying products with the Fair Trade mark on them?
fairtradefederation.com/

The Fair Trade Federation (FTF) is an association of fair trade wholesalers, retailers, and producers whose members are committed to providing fair wages and good employment opportunities to economically disadvantaged artisans and farmers worldwide.
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      FTF directly links          low-income producers with consumer markets and educates consumers          about the importance of purchasing fairly traded products which          support living wages and safe and healthy conditions for workers          in the developing world.
      
      FTF also acts as a clearinghouse for          information on fair trade and provides resources and networking          opportunities for its members. By adhering to social criteria          and environmental principles, Fair Trade Organizations (FTOs)          foster a more equitable and sustainable system of production          and trade that benefits people and their communities.
stdominicdelhi.org/social_justice.htm

By using Fair Trade Coffee (and products such as cocoa) we can have a direct impact on the living conditions of our brothers and sisters, particularly in Central America. These products are grown organically and sold through cooperatives of individual coffee growers. These growers guarantee that their workers are paid a certain wage, somewhat better than workers who pick coffee beans for the large, foreign-owned coffee producers, who earn as little as $1.75 per day for ten or more hours of work. The pressure from the Fair Trade movement has already begun to have an impact on these larger producers, as they see the demand for Fair Trade Coffee increase. Some have begun to improve the conditions for their own workers. By using these Fair Trade products we are helping these independent coffee growers remain in business and employ thousands of workers. Because so many of the small growers have not been able to compete with the large companies, it is estimated that in Guatemala alone, 350,000 coffee workers have lost their jobs. This has caused a huge increase in the number of Central Americans emigrating to the U.S., where they hope to earn a living. I recently listened to a Guatemalan woman as she told her story about leaving Guatemala on foot and heading to the U.S. After traversing Mexico by any means available she was captured as she crossed the U.S. border and was sent back into Mexico. She said she was determined to try again no matter what happened, because returning to the situation in Guatemala was not an option.
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      Bishop Ramazzini of San Marcos, Guatemala has been        to Cincinnati to speak about the coffee crisis and also to remain        connected with, and supportive of the members of his flock, many of whom        now live in the Greater Cincinnati area.  He has said that the elimination        of small growers has caused vast numbers of his people to move to large        Central American cities, where without skills they find themselves living        in extreme poverty, or they find ways to emigrate to the U.S.
cafod.org.uk/get_involved/campaigning/make_poverty_history/global_week_of_action

** April 10-16 2005 will see campaigners on the streets around the world putting Trade Justice at the top of the international agenda in advance of the G8 summit of world leaders due to be held in the UK in July.

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Unfair trade rules currently rob poor countries of £1.3 billion a day – 14 times what they get in aid. That is a scandal.
 
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BOBOBIGGIE:
Hogwash; I boycott walmart because living as a Christian means standing up to evil with the breast plate of Christ to protect you. one cannot rationalize following Christ. Choose whom you will serve as for me and my house we shall serve the LORD!

christ
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Why just Walmart entrepreneur.com/article/0,4621,316719,00.html

Providing benefits to same-sex couples is on CEOs’ radar: A study by the Washington, DC-based Human Rights Campaign found there was an 18 percent increase last year in private employers, colleges and universities offering domestic partnership benefits. Forty percent of Fortune 500 companies now offer them. Employers are responding to the marketplace, says Kim Mills, education director of the Human Rights Campaign and co-author of the study. “A lot of employers are seeing that American families are not Ozzie, Harriet and the boys anymore.”

Massachusetts has legalized gay marriage, and a handful of states including California, Hawaii, New Jersey and Vermont are progressive toward domestic partnership benefits. But 38 states have enacted Defense of Marriage Acts (DOMAs) that define marriage as a union between a man and a woman. And amid the controversy, a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage died in the Senate in July. Gay marriage is likely to be a wedge issue in an election year.

Conflicting state laws create conflict for employers. What are companies obligated to provide if a gay employee marries in Massachusetts but lives in a state with a DOMA? Right now, “they’re not married anywhere but Massachusetts,” says Phyllis Bossin, Cincinnati chair of the American Bar Association Family Law Section. Offering benefits is up to employers.

Cost is a huge factor for companies. The Corporate Resource Council, which opposes gay marriage, estimates employers might pay up to 5 percent more annually if 1 to 2 percent of employees access domestic partner benefits. Mills disputes this figure, saying costs typically increase about 1 percent annually for employers offering domestic partnership benefits.

The VIA Group, a marketing and communications firm in Portland, Maine, with offices in Boston and New York, has offered same-sex benefits for six years. The company pays $10,500 annually in domestic partnership premiums, and 3 percent of its employees buy insurance coverage for a domestic partner.

The tricky part is navigating differing definitions of domestic partnerships in three states. “There are criteria regulated by the state, in concert with the [insurance] carrier. We find out what we can legally do and set up a system,” says The VIA Group founding partner Rich Rico, 44. Employers may incur additional costs, he says, but will profit through better recruiting and retention. It hasn’t hurt the company’s bottom line, either: Sales hit more than $15 million last year.

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I found the following story at this site:
onemilliondads.com/CurrentIssue.asp

Wal-Mart to start homosexual club at corporate headquarters
Wal-Mart has finally caved in to the homosexual activists.

An internal memo to employees dated April 22, encouraged interest and support for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender associates to band together in order to “foster a sense of community.”

In essence, Wal-Mart is deliberately organizing a group of homosexual employees at their home office in Bentonville, Arkansas. It is only a matter of time before this group demands same-sex partner health benefits, financial support for gay meetings, “pride” parades, and workshops.

But that’s not all. Wal-Mart is also saying homosexuals are born that way. They are recognizing homosexuality as equal to race and national origin. This is one of the arguments homosexuals are using to demand the right of same-sex marriage.

Sadly, Wal-Mart is now giving special recognition to employees who practice unnatural and unhealthy lifestyles. And, they’re doing it with profits made from you, the customer.

Please contact Wal-Mart today and let them know you oppose their promotion of homosexuality.
 
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