Walmart employee Thanksgiving donations at Canton store cause controversy

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All employees, regardless of where they work, have a right to a just wage. Unfortunately Walmart is one of the many corporations that don’t give their employees a just wage. As others have said, people who work at Walmart are often barely able to feed themselves.

And as someone else said, we’re not for closing down Walmarts, we are for them paying a just wage to their employees.

Its not right that their employees have to choose between buying food and medicine or between paying the electric bill and buying enough food to make sure their children don’t go to bed hungry.
They do pay a just wage.
 
Let’s not defend wal-mart. But all who think they are unjust have an answer in your hands. Start a business of your own and hire those people at a just wage.
That is not going to happen when it is so much easier to complain that someone else should take care of those who do not take care of themselves.
 
I agree with you Corki. Walmart did do a good deed by doing this but they would do a better deed by paying their employees a more just wage.
I don’t believe the wage is unjust. It’s minimum wage for a job that has little to no requirements to be hired and no special skills or education necessary to do the job. That’s the very definition of a minimum wage job. As long as they don’t hire underage workers or fail to pay workers for all of their time worked, there isn’t anything unjust about it.

Now you could argue that the amount set as the minimum wage is unjust but that wouldn’t be Walmart’s fault, it’s the government’s. When the government sees fit to raise the minimum wage, I am sure Walmart will raise its starting salary.

P.S. A wage cannot be “more just”. It’s either just or unjust.
 
I believe that Costco’s income per employee is about five times that of WalMart, a pretty decent return even when taking the differing demographic of their target customers into account.
Cashiers make $40 an hour…makes you wonder why everyone isn’t flocking to Costco to work. :rolleyes:
 
What’s a just wage?
A just wage is the wage that an employee is willing to accept for the specific work required by the job. (with the caveat, in the US, that the wage cannot be lower that the legal minimum wage)
 
I don’t believe the wage is unjust. It’s minimum wage for a job that has little to no requirements to be hired and no special skills or education necessary to do the job. That’s the very definition of a minimum wage job. As long as they don’t hire underage workers or fail to pay workers for all of their time worked, there isn’t anything unjust about it.

Now you could argue that the amount set as the minimum wage is unjust but that wouldn’t be Walmart’s fault, it’s the government’s. When the government sees fit to raise the minimum wage, I am sure Walmart will raise its starting salary.

P.S. A wage cannot be “more just”. It’s either just or unjust.
I would say the starting pay is just. The rest of Walmart’s practices are questionable at best. Such as dropping people back down to base pay if they transfer departments or move from one store to another. And their scheduling is horrendous. You pretty much have to schedule your life around Walmart.
 
A lot of workplaces do collections to help people in need. In my unit at work we recently took up a collection for one of our ER housekeepers who almost died and will miss a bunch of work. We also collected for our ER tech whose brother died.

Yeah, Walmart sucks. If people want a decent job they usually need some post-high school training or have some special skill or talent.
 
A wage mutually agreed on between the employee and the employer
A wage on such a basis (due to the relative strength of the position of the employer and the realtive weakness in the position of the employee) is not a just wage, according to Catholic teaching.

It appears Walmart is willing to go to just about any lengths to avoid paying its employees a living wage. Walmart has a program available to employees that shows them how to apply for government assistance.

Tea Party Republicans should wake up. You cannot have corporate behemoths encouragaging their employees to take government assistance yet push for cutting government assistance programs.
 
I have you my definition.What is yours?
Don’t have one. I thought ‘just wage’ had some sort of theological definition. You told me what it was, which wasn’t theological at all. So, I said, isn’t it this then based on what you said? You said no. I asked for a counterexample to help me understand and you didn’t answer, but instead asked me for my definition.

So, what you’re saying is there is no theological definition of just wage and that everyone has their own definition, which pretty much makes this whole argument moot since people are talking about their own personal definitions?
 
A wage on such a basis (due to the relative strength of the position of the employer and the realtive weakness in the position of the employee) is not a just wage, according to Catholic teaching.

It appears Walmart is willing to go to just about any lengths to avoid paying its employees a living wage.** Walmart has a program available to employees that shows them how to apply for government assistance**.

Tea Party Republicans should wake up. You cannot have corporate behemoths encouragaging their employees to take government assistance yet push for cutting government assistance programs.
When did they begin that? They didn’t have it when I worked there about a year and a half ago.
 
  1. I hope you are not suffering under the allusion that our system is designed to spread wealth across the globe.
  2. As for what is a fair wage? Well I don’t think anyone should work for less than 20% over the poverty level. Assuming they are working full time. Though at this rate, they would be hard pressed to provide health insurance for themselves and their families. But one cause at a time I guess.
  3. Lets just stand together and right the wrong that is Walmart. Think of the relief our welfare system will experience.😉
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  1. If every country had a free market, wealth would spread itself. Economic and political freedom is the surest way to lift a country out of poverty.
  2. Where did you come up with 20%? Why 20% and not 10%? 30%?
  3. I see nothing wrong with Wal-Mart. The employ millions of people in this country and pay them a wage that reflects their skill level. Frankly, those jobs are unskilled labor.
 
What is a “fair” wage? Who decides what “fair” is? Is $10 an hour fair? $15? $20?

In a free market system, wage rates are decided through the market, and are based on productivity. Wal-Mart jobs are not skilled labor. Period. Their wage reflects that. If you don’t think that’s fair then you would have to change the way we distribute goods and services in this country. Economic theory has shown that the price mechanism is the best way to distribute scarce resources and coordinate billions of people across the globe.
Not all jobs are going to be well-paid. Walmart jobs are often stepping stone jobs. They are also largely unskilled and non-hazardous jobs, for which higher pay cannot be expected. It’s Walmart, rather, is teaching many people how to go to work for the first time who have never before been employed. Walmart jobs are jobs many disabled and retired people can manage, as well. Walmart also encourages and assists its employees to move up, to pursue GEDs and higher education. So, while they may not be pay-bountiful jobs, Walmart jobs are opportunity-bountiful for people in certain phases of their work lives.
 
Part of the problem with the typical Walmart worker is that they are drawing from a very noisy labor pool, some are very skilled and industrious, and others are unskilled and lazy and with workers in between these two extremes. The problem is that the skilled and industrious won’t last a Walmart long, because they will find better opportunities elsewhere. The ones who stay are likely to be less productive. Now the real question is why don’t some of these less productive people acquire the skills necessary to get themselves out of Walmart. If you are living on Walmart wages, community colleges will practically pay you to take courses.
 
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