Was Genesis wrong about creation?

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Remember, there are those here who don’t believe in God/gods and who don’t want to hear a Catholic answer or any answer that does not conform to their worldview.

1 Corinthians 2:14
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
The universe is larger and still growing.

Thanks to knowing the speed of light, scientists are able to calculate that there is empirical evidence that the earth is not just 10,000 years old

Jim
Is the speed of light constant? Has it been in the past? Is it constant in all parts of the universe?
 
Actually there is strong evidence that the earth is billions of years old.

If you desire to believe the earth is just a few thousands of years old, go ahead, but keep it to yourself rather than make Christianity look like a religion for fools.

Jim
It is not empirical though.

Fools? Is that your only concern? Scientism is your creed?
 
As far as I know, in a vacuum like outer space, the speed of light is and always has been constant.

Jim
 
Anyone familiar with @buffalo will know that he staunchly holds to a literalistic interpretation of Genesis, which is fine.

But we must also recognize a Catholic need not hold to a literalistic interpretation of Genesis. Literal, yes, in that we seek what God is telling us through the text. But word for word, as a scientific account? No, and the Popes keep reminding us of this, as does the Catechism. As did Augustine and other great Catholic minds throughout the centuries.

Insisting that to be a faithful Christian you must accept a young Earth, or no evolution, or a literalistic intrepretation of Scripture is a great scandal to many non-Christians. (Not that anyone is saying this).
 
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Science will always be incomplete because it cannot include Divine Revelation. Why should any Pope be mentioned? The science, such as it is, is always presented as the whole, complete answer. It is not.

The Catechism:

284 The great interest accorded to these studies is strongly stimulated by a question of another order, which goes beyond the proper domain of the natural sciences. It is not only a question of knowing when and how the universe arose physically, or when man appeared, but rather of discovering the meaning of such an origin: is the universe governed by chance, blind fate, anonymous necessity, or by a transcendent, intelligent and good Being called “God”? And if the world does come from God’s wisdom and goodness, why is there evil? Where does it come from? Who is responsible for it? Is there any liberation from it?

295 We believe that God created the world according to his wisdom.141 It is not the product of any necessity whatever, nor of blind fate or chance. We believe that it proceeds from God’s free will; he wanted to make his creatures share in his being, wisdom and goodness: "For you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created."142 Therefore the Psalmist exclaims: “O LORD, how manifold are your works! In wisdom you have made them all”; and "The LORD is good to all, and his compassion is over all that he has made."143
 
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Just googled it. 😃

Speed of Light May Not Be Constant, Physicists Say. Einstein’s theory of special relativity sets of the speed of light, 186,000 miles per second (300 million meters per second). But some scientists are exploring the possibility that this cosmic speed limit changes. The speed of light is constant, or so textbooks say.Apr 27, 2013
 
Any Catholic defence for Genesis?
EXCUSE ME BUT why do we Catholics need a defense for Genesis when the real issue is you apparently NOT correctly understanding it.

Be specific and I]ll be specific in my replies.

God Bless you,
Patrick
 
The older I get and the more science discovers, the more literalistic I get about the Bible. Take for instance the following, which all kinds of “enlightened” people declared mere allegory back when there was more mechanistic view of the universe.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. If “the earth” is the universe, it would have been “without form and void” prior to the Big Bang. It would have been a tiny string of unimaginable energy.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Light didn’t exist before the Big Bang. It is merely one of the forms of radiation that had been “trapped”, so to speak in the “string”. It’s just a fact that the Big Bang would have released light for the first time.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. That exactly happened when the wavelength we know as “light” manifested itself.

5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. What’s an “evening” and what’s a “morning” in cosmic terms?

6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Prior to the Big Bang there was nothing solid at all, according to some physicists. It was all energy. But as the Bang explanded, particles of matter began to “congeal” making the very first solids or “firmament” As to “waters”, some astophysicists hold that the Big Bang was caused by the intersection of two shimmering "membranes of cosmic energy. If we could see that energy, it would perhaps look like undulating “waters”."

Anyway, as time goes on, and as science discovers more and more, it seems more to support “literal” interpretations of the Bible. I don’t pretend to be any kind of scientist, but it sure seems that way to me.
 
Anyone familiar with @buffalo will know that he staunchly holds to a literalistic interpretation of Genesis, which is fine.
Absolutely wrong. I hold a literal interpretation as the Catechism says, and the longheld teaching and understanding of the Church.
 
EXCUSE ME BUT why do we Catholics need a defense for Genesis when the real issue is you apparently NOT correctly understanding it.

Be specific and I]ll be specific in my replies.

God Bless you,
Patrick
Sir.

Whatever misfortune I have caused you to deserve such a reply when everyone else has been debating and answering in a cordial manner, then I’m sorry.

I never attacked you in this thread and you have a choice to answer or not. The specifics is all about the creation story. I also never forced you to be specific. I am Catholic by the way and I simply wish to be able to defend Genesis.
 
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So do you accept biological evolution and that the earth is billions of years old?
 
Look, I came here for an argument…the earth is most definitely billions of years old and not created instantly as a new earth but as science proves evolved…however it was instantly created by God as a new earth and not billions of years old and in no way did it evolve

That is the ultimate take away from the plethora of threads on this subject…I just came here for edification and giggles not too mention a good argument…I think that is what the OP might have been going for?
 
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