That is not what I said. I said He did not walk around like God. Jesus did not use any of His divine powers. Jesus was filled with the Holy Spirit and was guided by Him. However, Jesus could have used His divine powers if He wanted to but chose not to.Are you saying that Jesus did not know what was to come?
Um, thanks for giving me a homework assignment and telling me which sources I may or may not use, but my point was that you are commenting on something that you do not understand. Since you are the one choosing to comment on something that you don’t understand, perhaps you should be the one to do the research. I suggest you do a word search for the phrase “baptism of desire” and learn what it means before commenting further on it.
Thank you for a very Catholic answer.
What, it’s a “Catholic” answer to suggest that you learn the facts before commenting? Are you saying that non-Catholics don’t learn the facts before they make comments? What an odd thing to say.
As do I. Which is why I said baptism saves 100% of the time yet you seemed to object to that statement.
No. We have not taken John’s baptism and turned it into anything. We take the words of Christ literally and He tells us baptism now saves us. We understand that Jesus showed us that He wishes us to be baptized, and that through baptism, God cleanses our soul and gives us the free gift of Grace.
Which is what we teach baptism to be.
You doubt that God can heal the soul through any means He desires?
Yes.
The Catholic Church does not teach that baptism is an outward cleansing. It is an outward sign of an inward change. A change and gift that can be given to anyone.
Yes.
But a “truly” baptized person can use their free will and reject God at anytime, losing their salvation.
Where exactly should I go to learn these facts?
Isnt it good to ask a catholic what a catholic doctrine means though? I mean if you had a question about one of our beliefs you would ask us–right?
If you dont know the answer just say so it is ok to admit when you dont know something. Heck I dont know the whole bible–Ive only been studying it for 4 years and am finding out the more I learn the more I realize I dont know.
A good start might be this article from this very website.
So you believe that babies are baptized with the Holy Spirit during water baptism?
For a second there I thought you were going to use scripture to reproof me. I’ll stick with God’s Word.
Yeah, you’re right. It is good to ask a Catholic. I was responding more to the manner of the question than to its content.Isnt it good to ask a catholic what a catholic doctrine means though? I mean if you had a question about one of our beliefs you would ask us–right?
We are always expected to give an answer I would think you guys should be held to the same standard as well.
You can’t have it both ways. Either you are willing to learn what Catholics believe before commenting, or you aren’t. If you are unwilling to bother learning what we believe about baptism of desire, then you lack enough information to comment on it.
…or at least the parts of it that don’t force you out of the comfort zone of your own personal, presupposed theology.
I already understand that you believe in the baptism of desire. But I’m going to tell you now… there is no such thing as the baptism of desire. Not you or any one of you here can prove it with scripture.
I really do mean this with respect… but I’d like to use your post as perfect example of a catholic answer. You’ve posted No scriptural reproof whatsoever. I have no problem with being corrected… just use scripture. But know this… I have every intention of reproofing you too with scripture.
Hi,
Baptism alone without what I just mentioned would not have gotten(is that a word?)her there and she would have been sorely disappointed. I hope she did do this so she can be with the Lord.
Hi AllforHim! Now that’s scriptural.Hi,
Yes it makes sense from a human standpoint, but unfortunately it doesnt make sense from a scriptural standpoint. What the Priest should have told this woman is if she has accepted Christ as her Lord and Savior and repented of her sins then she would be in heaven. That would be scriptural.
Of course I agree with you.