We have a POPE!!!!

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einna said:
I agree with you completely. Those who want our new pope to unify all Christian churches into one Catholic Church will probably be disappointed. Jesuits are known to be tolerant of other religions and keep things simple, like all of us sharing our love and devotion to the same God.

Growing up in a Jesuit parish and working at a Jesuit school I rarely heard that this person or that person was going to hell, something I read on this site way to much. Jesuits focus on the good people do and can do in the world. They bring people into the church with forgiveness and love, not damnation and fear. I believe Pope Francis will make it simple, focusing on the most important things about are faith and not all these “amendments” that have come from the men in the church over the last few centuries.

He will be about compassion, just my opinion.
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Amen. I could take this as a personal plus, as the priest whose homilies make me wish this process could be done more quickly…is a Jesuit.🙂
 
StudentMI said:
I like his humility and the simplicity of his life. But, one thing my mom said that I can’t get out of my mind, and I hope it’s not disrespectful to ask: he wants to be Pope, right? She thought his humility may have made him uncomfortable being the leader of the Church. I know, it’s silly. :o
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I don’t think you have to worry. James Martin S.J. explain the situation in a recent article. Jesuits take vows of poverty and humility, but their service to God and to the Church is seen as more important. They are not to “climb” up the ranks of the Church, but because the Pope asked him to be the Cardinal of Argentina he was relieved of his vows of poverty to do a greater service to God. He will definitely have to get used to a different way of life, but I don’t think he will live exactly like other Popes have in the past. We will just have to see.
 
jwinch2 said:
Are the Cardinal Electors less human than you or I? And who said anything about politics? All that was mentioned is that our own humanity can get in the way of listening to or even discerning God’s will. If we are not open to the influence of the Holy Spirit, our actions will not be guided by Him.
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Yes, but 115 men? All the ones I know of are very sincere in wanting to follow God’s will. There is simply no way I will believe that this choice is anything but what God wanted. If he can use gambling dice to give his will, he can use a group of thoughtful and holy men, most of whom want the person to be the one God wants.
 
Elizabeth502 said:
Give 'em Hell, Holy Father. 🙂
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I read about some of his criticism of Argentinia’s new laws concerning abortion and homosexuality. The government there has reason to be concerned. There is now a man that will sway the hearts on the people more than any civil leader, if the history of Poland is to prove any example.
 
cheezey said:
Once again, forgive my ignorance; forgive my lack of patience to run through many threads for the answer:

SSPX??
SSPV??
I’ll probably be :o for the answer.
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SSPX= Society of St. Pius X. It’s a sort of splinter Catholic group started by a French bishop who opposed all kinds of things that developed out of Vatican II, including the venacular Mass. They are truly Catholic and are not heretical. But they are disobedient to the Holy See. The French bishop (LeFebvre) was ordered not to consecrate bishops, but he did. Their sacraments are legitimate. They do not deny that the Pope is truly the Pope. But they’re kind of paranoid and isolated. There has been some hope they would rejoin the body of the Church formally. But it hasn’t happened. They’re just incredibly distrustful of the main body of the Church.

SSPV=Society of St. Pius V. Truly schismatic. They believe the Pope is not the Pope. Ultra, ultra traditionalist in many ways, but totally defiant of the Church. Some splinter groups within this splinter group claim to have their own pope. They also condemn the SSPX perhaps even more than they condemn the Church. They claim they ARE the Church and the rest of us are just heretics.

Both are pretty small groups, especially the SSPV.
 
kelvinf said:
Right, I am young, (possibly a future Pope hehe :D) but I’m not an American. Did you guys also expect a non-American to understand what that meant? 🤷
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Oh, showing my age. My eyes didn’t focus on your location. 😃
 
einna said:
Sorry but it is hard to believe that all of those cardinals, some desperately wanting to be the next pope, were all inspired by the Holy Spirit over those few day.

Funny thing is that Pope Francis, as a Jesuit, could not have started out with a desire to one day be pope because Jesuits are not allowed to accept such high honors. That is one of the biggest reason I think The Holy Spirit had such a strong influence this time.

The head of the Jesuit in the US, Fr. James Martin S.J. said in an article that Pope Francis was relieved of his vow of poverty when the Pope asked him to be the cardinal of Argentina. Service to God is seen as more important than the vow of poverty; “For the Great Glory of God”.
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The Holy Spirit descended on the apostles after weeks of fear and gave them the ability to speak with courage in tongues to the masses. I am pretty sure the Holy Spirit can do whatever the Holy Spirit wants to do.
 
DlandFan06 said:
Why does there have to be politicking when voting for a pope? Can’t people just let the holy spirit tell them to vote for the person?
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It’s not as if the Holy Spirit lands on the head of each cardinal. Cardinals are expected to discern what the Church most needs and prayerfully assess who among them seems to possess the gifts that are best suited to those needs. To that end, there are meetings held in advance of the conclave, liturgies and prayer. The “politicking” and speculating seems to me to occur apart from the cardinals.
 
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