We have a POPE!!!!

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I foresee new and refreshing things from this new pope. If he follows the Jesuit way, he will get back to the basics and “keep it simple”.
 
May I ask a favor? It is bugging me no end that this thread only has 4 stars.

Could you guys all please give it 5 stars? Thanks 🙂
 
mburn16 said:
We should always lead exemplary lives according to the Gospel, but do you really think that will stop other people from straying? I don’t.
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I don’t think anything will stop people from straying. But I think living a good life in accordance with the gospel is the best thing we’ve got to convince them not to. 👍
 
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VeritasLuxMea said:
I don’t think anything will stop people from straying. But I think living a good life in accordance with the gospel is the best thing we’ve got to convince them not to. 👍
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Yes, more people can be brought to the Church through setting a good example, and more people driven away from it by setting a bad example, than any amount of speech.
 
I am happy we have a Pope, but I don’t know much about him, and he seems to be not very well-published.
 
VeritasLuxMea said:
Is anyone else excited about his commitment to work for peace and the poor?

I find that we often overlook goals like peace and caring for the poor here on CAF.
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I know almost nothing about him. But if he is, indeed, dedicated to personal morality, doctrinal clarity AND work for the truly poor, then he would be an almost ideal pope. Those things are not separate things. One of the really troubling things about the Church in the U.S. is the infection with “Liberation Theology Lite”; the notion that if we act politically to tax our neighbor in order to provide whatever the government tells us it ought to provide, while the truly poor are terribly neglected, we are moral people. That is a horribly mistaken view of things.

If we are not personally moral and guided by the teachings of the Church in that morality, we are not going to be charitable either. And if we are doctrinally correct and moral in our personal lives but are not charitable, none of it is worth anything.

One suspects that Pope Francis might just be able to shame all sorts of people into realizing that it’s not enough to be all one-sided like a moral wheel out of round. He just might.
 
OxygenMan said:
Yes, more people can be brought to the Church through setting a good example, and more people driven away from it by setting a bad example, than any amount of speech.
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While its true that a “bad example” can drive away people, I think we have to consider the selfish nature of much of this straying. People ignore church teachings because it suits them. Reminding them of their duty to God, and the consequences of an intentional, and unrepentant disobedience, may very well be what is needed to bring people back.
 
I have to admit, there are going to be far more Popes in my lifetime than I though.

This is the second Pope since I converted and he’s 76.

Having thought that Pope Benedict was going to be relatively short papacy given his age I was thinking they’d go with someone that would be young enough to be Pope most of the rest of my life (I’m 35).

Not that I see this as a bad thing, just a weird observation of my own expectations. 😃
 
Ridgerunner said:
I know almost nothing about him. But if he is, indeed, dedicated to personal morality, doctrinal clarity AND work for the truly poor, then he would be an almost ideal pope. Those things are not separate things. One of the really troubling things about the Church in the U.S. is the infection with “Liberation Theology Lite”; the notion that if we act politically to tax our neighbor in order to provide whatever the government tells us it ought to provide, while the truly poor are terribly neglected, we are moral people. That is a horribly mistaken view of things.

If we are not personally moral and guided by the teachings of the Church in that morality, we are not going to be charitable either. And if we are doctrinally correct and moral in our personal lives but are not charitable, none of it is worth anything.

One suspects that Pope Francis might just be able to shame all sorts of people into realizing that it’s not enough to be all one-sided like a moral wheel out of round. He just might.
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Brilliant post! 👍
 
mcrow said:
I have to admit, there are going to be far more Popes in my lifetime than I though.

This is the second Pope since I converted and he’s 76.

Having thought that Pope Benedict was going to be relatively short papacy given his age I was thinking they’d go with someone that would be young enough to be Pope most of the rest of my life (I’m 35).

Not that I see this as a bad thing, just a weird observation of my own expectations. 😃
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Eh…average length of a Papacy is 10 years. If Francis gets to the same age as Benedict, he’d be right in that average period.
 
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