We have a POPE!!!!

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Eh…average length of a Papacy is 10 years. If Francis gets to the same age as Benedict, he’d be right in that average period.
I’m not worried so much about how long his Papacy will be just thinking that before Pope Benedict we had JP2 (before I was Catholic). Even though I wasn’t Catholic I remember JP2 as a kid, so my first impression of Popes are they generally are around a long time.

I know that isn’t the case now, but when I became Catholic (still learning at that point) I thought maybe there would be 2-3 Popes during my life but obviously I was off a bit on that. 👍
 
Well S. Francis Xavier was no doubt named after S. Francis of Assisi, so it’s all in the family …
Why worry about who was called after who, what matters is what comes after, yes it’s all in the family, in the family of God…
 
Why worry about who was called after who, what matters is what comes after, yes it’s all in the family, in the family of God…
People have been doing this since forever, like when people used to worship John the Baptist…lol
 
Does anyone have a response to this article?

rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-horror-buenos-aires-journalist.html

God bless.

-Paul
Looking up the source, it appears to be SSPX, not SSPV as I previously speculated. I expect we’ll be seeing information from better sources in due time.

I am one of those who doesn’t condemn SSPX root and branch. I know a fair number of those folks and a lot of them are truly pious people and truly intend to live according to the doctrines of the Church. But there is an excessive, strain that runs through the thought processes of many of them; a strain that one might reasonably describe as paranoid. Many of them don’t even trust some of their own clerics.
 
The picture of him being “blessed” by protestant ministers is disturbing actually, though to be fair, I do not know the context of that photo. However, today he was very careful to be proper when he asked the faithful to pray for God to bless him, rather than directly asking for their blessing.

Time will tell I suppose.
Link don’t work, hey ho !
 
My question (or fear) is this:

Is a 76 year old man with one lung, best known for kissing and washing the feet of AIDS patients, the kind of man who is willing and able to go into battle against the sin and immorality of an increasingly secular western society?

We’ll see. As I said, I have good hopes…but also some fears.
Yes, because he is the simple kind of man who will bring humility back to the Church. That through his simplicity, will end all type of corruption scandals.
You sound despective, I hope that is not the case.
God bless,
 
Apparently VP Biden will be representing the US at the installment of Pope Francis. Wonder if he’ll receive…in the past, I believe I read Pope Francis has been outspoken about heterodox politicians not receiving.
 
Apparently VP Biden will be representing the US at the installment of Pope Francis. Wonder if he’ll receive…in the past, I believe I read Pope Francis has been outspoken about heterodox politicians not receiving.
Biden will only receive as a mistake, I’d say.
 
Just wanted to say that I watched all this unfold just while I was having my breakfast (NZDST) and it was such a thrill!!!

I was late for work… but all the way (on my bike) I was just thinking Pope Francis??? Pope Francis!!! What does this name and this man augur? I think this will be a very exciting and interesting time in the Church and I feel full of hope and joy.

God bless Pope Francis I 👍
 
My question (or fear) is this:

Is a 76 year old man with one lung, best known for kissing and washing the feet of AIDS patients, the kind of man who is willing and able to go into battle against the sin and immorality of an increasingly secular western society?

We’ll see. As I said, I have good hopes…but also some fears.
He has engaged in the battle against sin and immorality when, for example, he denounced the Argentinian government for its support of SS “marriage,” which our then-Cardinal denounced as “demonic in origin.” He has called homosexual adoption what it is: abuse of a child. Given his service to the poor, I expect that he might hold the feet of the Argentian government even more to the fire by criticizing the corruption in their gov’t.

He has condemned abortion as “the death penalty for the unborn.”

Doesn’t sound as if he’s afraid of the battle against sin and immorality. 🙂
 
I like the idea of a Jesuit choosing the name of a Franciscan saint. It tells me he is a scholar with a heart for the poor.

And we finally have an American pope! 👍
 
Wow, that is one of the things I wondered: How Argentinians (and the government) taking the news?

Did Francis have a good relationship with President Kirchner?
Well, as I said, this was a COMPLETE surprise. Everybody was expecting a Cardinal Scola, Scherer, Shnoborn, to be said, and suddenly, Jorge Mario Bergoglio.

Let me describe you my situation: I was with my mother, watching anxiously the TV, and when he said Bergoglio, it was, like, like, like, like. You get me?
We were bewildered! We started shouting throughout the house (although we were just us and my sister watching the same thing with a co-worker on another room) “Es Bergoglio, Bergoglio, Bergoglio, no lo puedo creed! Mamá, es Bergoglio! Esto es impresionante, no, no no, que poco esperado, Bergoglio, es Bergoglio!”. I would remember that till the end of my days.

Francis had a terrible relationship with President Kirchner. A terrible one. Her way of being, as any populist government like Chavez, was to destroy or denigrate any insitution that went against her interests. The fashion was to legalize gay marriage and abortion, and Francis was the ONLY one to stand against them.
Of course, ALL the media (all except 1 persecuted channel are owned by of by friends of the government) tried to link him with a past dictatorship, inventing scandals about him, a complete mediatic movement.
We thought that he wasn’t powerful at the Vatican due to his unablness to stop this fashion. We know that it was impossible, but at Rome it would sound this way.

After that, He was always interested in the well-being of the needed, and he was always so humble. He was coherent with what he said. He travelled in public transport, didn’t like to wear the Cardinal robes. A complete contrast with a leftist populist ultra-corrupt regime leader as Cristina. She talks of the needed, but makes them more poor, yet, the leftist propaganda will always make the needed believe her. Yet, she is able to buy LV clothes, etc. A complete disaster.

Francis was a symbol of the Opposition, when we are lacking a strong one. Our main issue is that the 2 most important opposition parties have the same ideology of this government, so it is impossible to create opposition when leading opposition parties vote the official initiatives at the Congress.
Bergoglio always stood against.

CFK also never went to the Tedeums, or even sabotaged them, tried to stop his masses.

Just as the Conclave begun, groups near to the government stormed the Cathedral of Buenos Aires (Francis “hub”) and occupied it, calling it a “social protest” against subsidy from the City (ruled by only real opposing party, Pro) to Catholic schools.

So yes. For opposition people like us, it is a complete happiness. Every day we endure a different scandal, another bad news, a new assasination, robberies, etc. etc. etc. Yet she continues to be President. So this news, is like the light in darkness. We hope that the political effect this has might be positive (specially to strengthen opposing parties like Pro, my hope).

Instead, for the government, their media apparatus will now try to link him with the previous dictatorship, of being involved in disappearing people, etc. Yet, that is made by cabinet members, social groups leaders, thugs, union leaders, etc. CFK will obviously try to be cordial, yet distant. Her letter to Francis was a shame. Like if she doesn’t care.

She knows Bergoglio is an enemy to her. Yet, we are uncertain if she will try to look close to him, or denigrate him. Tough choice for the government.

So yes. I am extremely happy. Especially when I remember the time when I wrote this post, that I invite you to read.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=759140

The contrast since then is incredible.

God bless you my brothers!
 
White smoke!!!
great choise awesome… I love the Jesuits !!!

My dad was educated by Jesuits at Marquette University, and right now he is spinning in his grave with joy…

I believe having a Jesuit Pope will be the beginning of the end to alot of the problems facing the Church !!
 
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